How many miles on a used 2.0T FSI?

[Gareth_Rees]

Hi guys,

some may have seen my other post about getting a B7 off a friend...that's not coming off anymore so I'm in the market for one!

I've decided on the 2.0T FSI petrol engine around the 2005 mark...I just wanted to know what the general consensus is for a max mileage that is recommended?

I don't want to be lumped with any costly repairs!

I'm looking for one with a FSH, and I will probably only be doing around 12k before I get a new car, so bearing that in mind what would people recommend I should stay under so that reliability isn't an issue?

Thanks,

Gareth

[ming]

Sorry, off topic somewhat, but worth mentioning, IMO.
When searching, try to get your 2.0TFSI with Quattro drive option.
Even if we don't get a repeat of the recent wintry conditions - during these the Quattro has been utterly brilliant BTW - you'll quickly appreciate the almost uncanny road holding irrespective of the prevailing conditions.
Good luck.

[achille]

Having made a costly mistake onthis front, I would recommend looking for one that has just had a major service, so around the 70k mark if you can get one. Also, if possible look for a service history that has had regular services, rather than the longlife ones. I bought mine at 60k and 6 months later had a HUGE bill for the 65k cambelt service. Because it had been on longlife it needed almost everything doing at once.
I would agree with the quattro thing too, but bear in mind that a lot of parts are specific to the quattro, and therfore cost more. You may also need tyres in sets of four ( although half as often)!
Other than that- a good one should be good for huge mileage provided it is/has been looked after.

[jdp1962]

To emphasise what the previous posters have said, it's not the mileage the car has covered that is relevant, but what it has had done to it.

Condition and history (documented and provable) are everything.

(Oh, and get a Quattro.)

[A4 Lad]

Mine has 113'000 on her.. If you check out my profile and check my posts, your questions will be answered. I own an indy garage so I had no labour charges but the TFSI is a demanding engine and high maintanence but looked after, she will bring a smile to your face. Bit like the wife really :-)


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[Lateknight]

On the subject of quattro versions, not quite what they seem. There is a lot of Audi marketing in the quattro badge on normal models.

Accelerative traction is the only benefit in having a quattro version. Thats about it. In 99% of cases the 200hp is quite happily handled by FWD.
Quattros don't corner any faster, they dont brake any better, in fact you're probably slightly worse off because they weigh more. They use more fuel, higher on emissions. Slower top speed. The top speed point is irrelevant (unless your a nutter) but it shows that the extra drag of the quattro system is always holding the car back.
Remember you still only steer with the 2 front wheels. If you approach a corner way too fast quattro aint going to save you any better than a 2wd car.

This is no dig at anyone with a quattro model. I'm just trying to put my real-world view on the two models. Unless you live in a particularly hilly or slippery are the cons outweigh the pros of quattro on this size of engine.

On the subject of mileage (just to get back on topic) - its more down to service history and any previous work than anything else. Buying a 40k milage car does not make it immune to large bills.
Watch out for top end rattles (fuel pump/ follower or cam chain tensioner).
Check the cambelt has been done - reckon on 5year or 80k intervals or whichever is soonest - they're not known for snapping but will be expensive if it does.
Drive the car. Does it still feel 'tight'? If anything feels odd or sloppy check it out or walk away. The cars not THAT old yet, even with 100k+, they should still drive well.

[darich]

Lateknight.........
interesting take on Quattro but I'd ask you this.............

How has your car been in the snow and bad weather recently?
Does your car understeer if you accelerate hard out of a corner?
Can you use the full 200bhp when pulling from lights or a roundabout, especially in the wet?
If you go to a campsite/music festival are you likely to get stuck if the field gets muddy?

My answers would be great, no and yes (in fact for question 3 I can use the full 255bhp that I have) and no.

While you're right that approaching a corner too fast you'll slide regardless of how many wheel drive you have, but on a 4wd you can get the power down earlier, harder and won't over or understeer as much - even more noticeable in poor or wet conditions.
Handling is much more neutral in a 4wd - pretty much no understeer so you can change direction when accelerating hard, and less oversteer so no tail happy slides, destroying rubber and going nowhere.

But to go back to topic......cam belt is 5 years or 60k...not 80k.

[A4 Lad]

Lateknight.........
interesting take on Quattro but I'd ask you this.............

How has your car been in the snow and bad weather recently?
Does your car understeer if you accelerate hard out of a corner?
Can you use the full 200bhp when pulling from lights or a roundabout, especially in the wet?
If you go to a campsite/music festival are you likely to get stuck if the field gets muddy?

My answers would be great, no and yes (in fact for question 3 I can use the full 255bhp that I have) and no.

While you're right that approaching a corner too fast you'll slide regardless of how many wheel drive you have, but on a 4wd you can get the power down earlier, harder and won't over or understeer as much - even more noticeable in poor or wet conditions.
Handling is much more neutral in a 4wd - pretty much no understeer so you can change direction when accelerating hard, and less oversteer so no tail happy slides, destroying rubber and going nowhere.

But to go back to topic......cam belt is 5 years or 60k...not 80k.

Too shay ! my man


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[Lateknight]

Lateknight.........
interesting take on Quattro but I'd ask you this.............

How has your car been in the snow and bad weather recently?
Does your car understeer if you accelerate hard out of a corner?
Can you use the full 200bhp when pulling from lights or a roundabout, especially in the wet?
If you go to a campsite/music festival are you likely to get stuck if the field gets muddy?

My answers would be great, no and yes (in fact for question 3 I can use the full 255bhp that I have) and no.

While you're right that approaching a corner too fast you'll slide regardless of how many wheel drive you have, but on a 4wd you can get the power down earlier, harder and won't over or understeer as much - even more noticeable in poor or wet conditions.
Handling is much more neutral in a 4wd - pretty much no understeer so you can change direction when accelerating hard, and less oversteer so no tail happy slides, destroying rubber and going nowhere.

But to go back to topic......cam belt is 5 years or 60k...not 80k.

Snow has not been a problem for me. Every body drives at the same speed. Because no-one has winter tyres. Your quattro is little better in the snow and ice without proper tyres.
Unless you drive like a nutter, all the above is irrelevant on todays public roads. 99 % of my performance is used in overtaking traffic, where once on the move traction isnt an issue.
I also have a REVO chip like yourself and no problems with traction. The car grips a lot stronger than you'd realise. Good tyres are probably key here. I don't do the traffic light grandprixs (cars dont tend to last long under that sort of treatment).
I don't do fields either, that would defo require quattro. I like to stick to the grey bit.
Oh and it IS 80K by the way (actually 75k - because its converted from 120000Km.)

[ming]

Snow has not been a problem for me. Every body drives at the same speed. Because no-one has winter tyres. Your quattro is little better in the snow and ice without proper tyres.
Unless you drive like a nutter, all the above is irrelevant on todays public roads. 99 % of my performance is used in overtaking traffic, where once on the move traction isnt an issue.
I also have a REVO chip like yourself and no problems with traction. The car grips a lot stronger than you'd realise. Good tyres are probably key here. I don't do the traffic light grandprixs (cars dont tend to last long under that sort of treatment).
I don't do fields either, that would defo require quattro. I like to stick to the grey bit.
Oh and it IS 80K by the way (actually 75k - because its converted from 120000Km.)

".Every body drives at the same speed. Because no-one has winter tyres.
"Your quattro is little better in the snow and ice without proper tyres."

Here's my tuppence worth on the above.
Where I'm from that wasn't the case. In the worst of the conditions hardly anybody was able to drive far less at the same speed. The few who did were mainly in 4x4's or in my case a Quattro. Yes, FWD's were in evidence but few and far between off the main drags. Now, I'm not getting into a verbal fencing match on the relative merits of Quattro v FWD other than to say, " I've had 20 years experience of Audis with both drive systems and in the recent snowy conditions the Quattro simply annihilates FWD." And that's on Falken 452 rubber. Amen.