Retrofitted RNS-510, Changed GW, now a lot of errors

[bjuran]

Hi all

Please advise me on what is wrong with this

I retrofitted a RNS 510 in a 2006 Passat B6, Originally there was a C revision GW
updated it today to a Q version and sorts of different faults appeared !

Had to update the GW beacuse i lost the settings for the AUx heater and the Telephone in MFD

Wednesday,01,September,2010,19:14:47:05278
VCDS Version: Release 10.6.0 (x64)
Data version: 20100630



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Chassis Type: 3C0
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 22 25 37 42 44 46 52 53 56 62 69 72
76

VIN: WVWZZZ3CZ6E147564 Mileage: 100010km/62143miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
69-Trailer -- Status: Sporadic communication error 1000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000

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Address 01: Engine Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 03G 906 021 MT HW: 028 101 292 5
Component: R4 2,0L EDC G000SG 9391
Revision: --H01--- Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
Coding: 0000172
Shop #: WSC 00490 218 89105
VCID: 7DFB13AE5D99

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 3C0-614-095-C2.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 614 095 P HW: 3C0 614 095 P
Component: ESP 440 C2 H015 0003
Revision: H015 Serial number: 0658514767
Coding: 0013614
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 2F67F9E6C775

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 3C0-907-044.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 907 044 AB HW: 3C0 907 044 AB
Component: ClimatronicPQ46 050 0404
Revision: 00050005 Serial number: 00000000000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 61C34FDEC121

2 Faults Found:
01207 - Control Module for Auxiliary Heater (J364)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 42
Mileage: 100017 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2010.08.29
Time: 19:03:36

00402 - Auxiliary Air Heater Element (Z35)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 42
Mileage: 100017 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2010.08.29
Time: 19:07:38


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 J HW: 3C0 937 049 J
Component: Bordnetz-SG H37 1301
Revision: 00H37000 Serial number: 00000005228876
Coding: 6988CF4701041A1E5F000000001E000000395A43000000
Shop #: WSC 00120 218 63885
VCID: 3065FA9ADA4B

Part No: 3C1 955 119
Component: Wischer VW461 012 0503
Coding: 00063445
Shop #: WSC 00120

Part No: 1K0 955 559 T
Component: RegenLichtSens 011 1110
Coding: 00273189
Shop #: WSC 00120

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 3C0-909-605.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 909 605 J HW: 3C0 909 605 J
Component: 04 AIRBAG VW8 029 2521
Revision: 09029000 Serial number: 003A2PRME3CW
Coding: 0012340
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 2D5BE3EECD79

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 3C0-953-549-SW20.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 953 549 A HW: 3C0 953 549 A
Component: Lenksäulenmodul 005 0010
Revision: 00005000 Serial number: 3C9953507C
Coding: 0000014
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 2A51E8F2FC97

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 3C0-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 920 870 Q HW: 3C0 920 870 Q
Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VD1 4240
Revision: X0033000 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 0007105
Shop #: WSC 00610 218 87368
VCID: 3163FF9ED141

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 3C0-907-530.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 907 530 Q HW: 3C0 907 951
Component: J533 Gateway H13 0172
Revision: H13 Serial number: 3690P107270158
Coding: F9827F4E400202002002
Shop #: WSC 00079 790 00000
VCID: 2F67F9E6C775

4 Faults Found:
01305 - Databus for Infotainment
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 2
Mileage: 100017 km
Time Indication: 0

01300 - Control Module for Navigation with CD-Rom (J401)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 2
Mileage: 100017 km
Time Indication: 0

01304 - Radio
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 2
Mileage: 100017 km
Time Indication: 0

01517 - Control Module for Trailer/Towing Sensor (J345)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 42
Mileage: 100017 km
Time Indication: 0


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Address 22: AWD Labels: 1K0-907-554.lbl
Part No: 1K0 907 554 C
Component: HALDEX 4Motion 0108
Coding: 0000001
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2D5BE3EECD79

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 3C0-959-433-25.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 959 433 K HW: 3C0 959 433 K
Component: IMMO 038 0367
Revision: 00038000 Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
VCID: 3261F092D447

Part No: 3C0 905 861 D
Component: ELV 024 0370
3C0905861D ELV 024 0370

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation
Cannot be reached

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-701-MAX2.lbl
Part No: 1K0 959 701 L
Component: Tuer-SG 024 2461
Coding: 0000183
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 3777C1863F25

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x.lbl
Part No: 1K1 909 144 K
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.5 D06 1701
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 336FF5962B5D

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 3C0-959-433-46.clb
Part No SW: 3C0 959 433 K HW: 3C0 959 433 K
Component: KSG PQ46 ELV 038 0455
Revision: 00038000 Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
Coding: 0091020851034E7F7F02141570080F0E703C00
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 3261F092D447

Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301

Component: NGS n.mounted

Component: IRUE n.mounted

1 Fault Found:
01517 - Control Module for Trailer/Towing Sensor (J345)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 42
Mileage: 100017 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2010.08.29
Time: 19:05:09


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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 1K0-959-702-MAX2.lbl
Part No: 1K0 959 702 L
Component: Tuer-SG 024 2461
Coding: 0000182
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 3875C2BA323B

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake Labels: 3C0-907-801-53.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 907 801 G HW: 3C0 907 801 G
Component: EPB VD8HC005 013 0005
Revision: 013
Coding: 0000011
Shop #: WSC 00120 218 63885
VCID: 26491CC2E88F

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN2.lbl
Part No: 3C9 959 703
Component: Tuer-SG 021 2505
Coding: 0000144
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: F0E5BA9A9ACB

No fault code found.

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Address 69: Trailer Labels: 8P0-907-383.lbl
Part No SW: 8P0 907 383 HW: 8P0 907 383
Component: ANHAENGERELEKTR H01 0010
Coding: 0000001
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: F6E98C82F8AF

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN2.lbl
Part No: 3C9 959 704
Component: Tuer-SG 021 2505
Coding: 0000144
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: F1E3BF9E91C1

No fault code found.

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Address 76: Park Assist Labels: 3C0-919-283.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 919 283 B HW: 3C0 919 283 B
Component: Parkhilfe 8-Kan 004 0011
Revision: 00004000 Serial number: 82930533703839
Coding: 0000024
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 285512FAE29B

No fault code found.

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Hope some of you out there have enough experience to sort this out.

[Dana@Ross-Tech]

The RNS isn't communicating. Is the unit fully functional aside from the MDF display? Do you have any adapters, like VIM or similar, in-between the RNS unit and the wiring adapter?

Did the RNS communicate before the GW was updated?

[bjuran]

Hi

The RNS did communicate before i updated the GW fully
functional with nav and audio in the MFD display

No adapters between the rns and cable loom

I can not access adress 18 "Aux Heater " in VCDS

I have a Basic phone module under the pass seat , I can`t access this either

In the "hidden" menu in the RNS it says that there is no comm on CAN

I recently tried a 1KO 907 530 AA GW in the car, Then most functions
were ok except for the IMMO.

Some nice ppl explained for me that the IMMO was in the GW and not
in the instrument cluster on a 3C


I never thought mounting a stock radio should be so though.

Very frustrating, I feel like pulling my hair out :-) lol



All answers and tips are highly appreciated

[martin1810]

Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 3C0-907-530.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 907 530 Q HW: 3C0 907 951
Component: J533 Gateway H13 0172
Revision: H13 Serial number: 3690P107270158
Coding: F9827F4E400202002002
Shop #: WSC 00079 790 00000
VCID: 2F67F9E6C775

Could it be that the F9827F4E400202002002 code is incorrect. The other modules will need the correct code for VCDS to "see" them. Is this the same code that was in the original module.

[bjuran]

Hi

The long coding in the new GW and the old C revision cannot be the same

The old C revision is 7 Bit and the new Q version is 10 Bit,
but i will give it a go to try

But i have made sure that the installation list is the same is the
same in the new as the old one.

[bjuran]

Hi again

After checking out if there are some differences in my GW
I found this ...

Under the extras it seems there is an ekstra "function" in
the old C GW ?

I added a pic form the C and the Q Version

Also i checked, The C version is 7 Bit and the Q version is 10 Bit

Does someone know what this " Ekstra Geraet 76796" is ?

Still frustrated, maybe even more than before .

[martin1810]

The early versions are 7 Byte and the later are 10 Byte as you say. So what was your original 7 byte code. I am no expert but I know how the bytes and bits work. The problem is finding out exactly what each bit controls on an individual car. It varies from model to model and with year. Sorry can't translate the german code.

[bjuran]

Hi

The original code from my old GW is

Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 3C0-907-530.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 907 530 C HW: 3C0 907 951 A
Component: Gateway 007 0040
Revision: 00007000 Serial number: 0700C05C0800A5
Coding: BDFD9C44CE2002
Shop #: WSC 00120 218 76796
VCID: 21430FDE81A1

No fault code found.

With my old GW and the old MFD 2 unit in he car I
have 0 faults on a cmplete AutoScan

Lars

[martin1810]

From your original coding.
Your car is a 4 door, left hand drive, 4 wheel drive, manual ,VW saloon with electric front seats, tyre pressure monitoring, park assist and auxillary heating. It does not have climate control, sun roof, trailer control or Multi function steering wheel or xenon head lights.
Am I close with any of this.

Your new code says it is a left hand drive manual 4 door, 4 wheel drive saloon. BUT no electric front seats, a trailer control is fitted, Climate control is present. Tyre pressure monitoring is not present and Auxillary heating is not present.

Let me know what specification your car really is. I know some of my guesses will be wrong because the available code function information is not always correct.

[bjuran]

Hi

Yes this is close.

This is the installation list with the original GW

hassis Type: 3C0
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 18 19 22 25 37 42 44 46 52 53 56 62 69
72 76 77

VIN: WVWZZZ3CZ6E147564 Mileage: 100150km/62230miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
18-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000

Have electric seats but without memory, no TPMS

This is the installation list from the new GW

Chassis Type: 3C0
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 22 25 37 42 44 46 52 53 56 62 69 72
76

VIN: WVWZZZ3CZ6E147564 Mileage: 100010km/62143miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
69-Trailer -- Status: Sporadic communication error 1000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000

Lars