Please Help RCD310 / RCD510 install into Golf MK5 [Archive] - VW Audi Forum - The #1 Volkswagen (VW) Forum Dedicated to the whole Volkswagen (VW) Group

onzarob

09-05-2009, 09:06 PM

I've just bought a RCD 310 as an upgrade for my MK5 Golf, Now to install it I need and adaptor from the MK5 aerial connections to the MK6 RCD 310 connection.

There is a VAG part but i don't know the part number, anyone with an idea?

Thanks

onzarob

09-05-2009, 09:53 PM

Well with the help of the forums ETOS sub it look like the part number is

7LO051551A and I think it looks like this, I will let you know what happen after I go to VW for it :D

http://members.lycos.co.uk/usamylove/RNS-510/1043_0.jpg

onzarob

12-05-2009, 09:14 AM

Well with the help of the forums ETOS sub it look like the part number is

7LO051551A and I think

The part number is 7L6 051 551 not as above cost £26.30 now iI'll wait for the radio to turn up. also found this document about installing RCD310 RCD 510 into the Mk5 golf.

RCD310/RCD510 Install Guide (http://www.motor-talk.de/forum/aktion/Attachment.html?attachmentId=602167)

elvismiggell

12-05-2009, 09:23 AM

Nice work. I've been considering trying to lay my hands on an RCD510 when I get my pay review in August.

What do you currently have in your Golf?

I've not got a multifunction steering wheel and my GT hasn't got the highline computer. Reckon it's still worth doing though, as long as it works!

onzarob

12-05-2009, 10:17 AM

I've got an RCD 300 at the moment, I wanted to be able to play MP3 so needed a later RCD300 or a RCD310. the RCD510 is a little too expensive. I also want to put a handfree kit/media streaming solution probably a parrot MKi9200.

I will then use a Tomtom for Navigation, I did have a MFD2 which was good, but it dosen't play MP3 cd's and the extra funstionality like bluetooth for it is expensive.

elvismiggell

12-05-2009, 06:58 PM

Do you still have the MFD2?

onzarob

12-05-2009, 07:27 PM

Do you still have the MFD2?

Sorry I sold it last week :( was a bargain £280 on eBay.

elvismiggell

12-05-2009, 08:36 PM

Blast, oh well!

Have you got the RCD310 up and running yet?

Where did you buy it from?

onzarob

12-05-2009, 08:44 PM

Blast, oh well!

Have you got the RCD310 up and running yet?

Where did you buy it from?

Ebay, they come up occasionally, as new MK6 owners upgrade to Sat NAV:D I paid £145 which is only slightly more than a RCD300 MP3, but you can intergrate parking sensors with it and other things, something to play with anyway :D

elvismiggell

13-05-2009, 08:30 AM

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-MFD-2-MFD2-DVD-Navigation-GPS-system-SAT-NAV-V3_W0QQitemZ260406772280QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Audi oTVElectronics_GPSSystems_GPSSystems?hash=item2604 06772280&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1689%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

First of all do we trust sellers in Lithuania?
Second, does the MFD2 have the 6 cd player?

You can't get an RCD 310 with an internal hdd can you? That's what I really want.

onzarob

13-05-2009, 09:25 AM

yer?

You can't get an RCD 310 with an internal hdd can you? That's what I really want.

No I think its only the RNS510 Sat Nav, I don't think the RCD510 has an HD either but does have an SD slot.

As for Lithuania, there is a great trade in stealing cars from Europe and dismantling then in the old eastern block countries...but that's not to say they are not legitimate :dunno:

elvismiggell

13-05-2009, 09:32 AM

Hmmm, managed to spot an RNS 510 from the UK for £700.

Just not sure if I can justify that to the fiancee... :(

onzarob

13-05-2009, 11:22 AM

Hmmm, managed to spot an RNS 510 from the UK for £700.

most say they have a backup!!! CD and not original nav media, which cost £100+ so be carefull ;)

Just not sure if I can justify that to the fiancee... :(

Not a chance:biglaugh:

TBH I didn't bother with the the RNS mainly because the map updates are so expensive, A New map for a TomTom is £40 and the unit with 2 years updates is £100.

Fro My MFD"2 it was£134 for a new 2009 CD and you can update it at all. TomTom units do continuous updates for less than that.

I agree the units look nice, but the expense is hardly worth it

elvismiggell

13-05-2009, 11:51 AM

onzarob

13-05-2009, 12:29 PM

I'm still researching that bit, but the RCD does the Track names function of the disk, so I think its a MDI interface that allow you to control the Ipod. But i stillswaying as aParrot kit is about the same money and i can then stream music from my N95 as well as being able to plug in an ipod/usb device/iphone or SD and I get handsfree...oh descions:D

onzarob

15-05-2009, 08:11 PM

Does anyone have the spec sheet for the RCD 310. I didn't get the manual for the radio and I'm trying to work a few things out.

Cheers

Rob

elvismiggell

15-05-2009, 10:08 PM

Can't find one for the RCD 310.

RNS 510 is here if that helps at all?

http://www.vwcruise.com/resources/RNS+510+User+Manual.pdf

onzarob

15-05-2009, 11:08 PM

I will have a look Elvis, hopefully the person i bought the radio will send me the manual ;)

onzarob

19-05-2009, 03:12 PM

Right I have installed th RCD310 and lovely it looks to, the greatest thing is the ability to read mp3 cd's

5900

Now I need to decide on a Parrot kit or VW Ipod adaptor with Bluetooth.....:confused:

paul b

19-05-2009, 04:51 PM

Nice job Rob!

onzarob

19-05-2009, 07:53 PM

Nice job Rob!

Thanks, it nice to have the mp3 function and the quality of the unit is better than the original RCD 300. there also lost of other thing it can do like track listing when an ipod is connected (with VW i/f connected) and it can use the enhance parking system and tell you how close things are to the rear ;) all in the future :D

elvismiggell

19-05-2009, 08:28 PM

Looks really good mate. Like how being OEM it looks great and really fits the MK5 well.

Still want the RNS510 though!!!

onzarob

24-05-2009, 08:29 PM

elvismiggell

25-05-2009, 09:45 PM

Cheers fella, let me know how you get on with it!

Kevster140

28-05-2009, 09:02 PM

Ok, so if it's ridiculously expensive to have a hdd, what do you reckon the best solution for being able to link up my iPod and see track names etc is?

Would an RCD310 with a lead to the glovebox work?

Hi, are you aware of dension? I've been told their ipod kits are good, although not sure if it works for the gen 3 headunits (310/510) Worth looking at although they are not the cheapest bits of kit.

AlTerego13

04-06-2009, 02:45 PM

Well a quick update on my RCD 310 install, Basically the CAN gateway is of the wrong revision in cars older than 2008. ?This causes the radio to drain the battery within 2 days!!!!

This can be resolved by updated the CAN Gateway to SW version 1K0 907 530 L.

So I'm on the look out for a new can gateway until then the RCD310 is in the cupboard :(This issue also effects the RCD 510, RNS 310 and later versions of the RNS 510.

If any VW techs can tell me if the SW can be updated without changing the unit please let me know ;)

Rob.

Hmm, I'm looking at upgrading from a non-mp3 RCD300 in a 55 plate Golf to a touch screen RCD510. I've heard about this battery problem on a few sites.

Could you explain what this CAN gateway thing is please? I'm not that clued up on this stuff!

Cheers, and good luck with the search!

onzarob

04-06-2009, 02:56 PM

CAN or "Controller Area Network" is the way all the electronics talk to each other in a modern car. ;)

There is an issue with the CAN controller and the Newer Generation Radio's and Sat Nav that causes the radio to talk to the controller and not fully switch into standby.

You then end up with a Flat battery as its pulling 1.5 amps rather than a standby of .05 amps.

You can get a newer Can Controller form VW which needs to be coded in. part costs around £100.

HTH

Rob

AlTerego13

04-06-2009, 02:57 PM

Ta, I'm all clued up now! :)

gogzyb

04-06-2009, 09:32 PM

Hey, I recently put my 55 plate Golf GT TDI in for a service and VW told me they were updating the software - could this be for the CAN software update?

I am really keen to purchase an RCD 510 but not if it's going to destroy my battery!

Thanks!

AlTerego13

06-06-2009, 03:47 PM

Doubt it. This is probably an ECU update - From what the service dept told me, it's a VW recall thing which fixes spluttering idling, amongst other bits and pieces (that my car is suffering from).

I've got to take mine in to get checked out a week on Monday (15th) and I'm going to ask them about this CAN controller thing and whether it can be flashed or whether I need to purchase a whole new unit to enable me to get the RCD510.

I'll keep you posted. ;)

AlTerego13

11-06-2009, 08:50 PM

I got in touch with my local dealer today and asked one of their technicians. They said that to get the RCD510 working on an older MkV Golf is a simple case of upgrading the firmware on the STEREO itself!

Apparently, if it hasn't been done already when you buy the stereo, it's a simple job that costs about 40 quid from the dealer. He said that the main cause of the battery discharge is that, without the firmware update, the stereo will power up randomly throughout the night and drain the battery?!

I'm gonna give it a go I think. I want that stereo!! :aargh4:

gogzyb

11-06-2009, 08:57 PM

Really, thanks for that - I'm dying to get it too!!

Let me know how you get on!!

gogzyb

10-07-2009, 11:59 PM

Hey there,

Did you have any joy with VW getting the RCD 510 fitted?

My car is remapped, does anyone know if VW can reconfigure my CAN gateway for the new stereo without wiping my remap?

Thanks!
G

onzarob

11-07-2009, 10:35 AM

My car is remapped, does anyone know if VW can reconfigure my CAN gateway for the new stereo without wiping my remap?

Thanks!
G

the CAN gateway and Convenience module are separate the the Engine ECU which is where you Map is ;)

gogzyb

12-07-2009, 04:28 AM

Excellent, does anyone know how much this costs from VW?

Thanks!
G

4NT

10-09-2009, 06:24 PM

I know it's been a while since this thread was last added to but how did the RCD 310 into a Mk V Golf go?????

I've just bought a 310 and don't know if it's worth the grief of the £26 cable and a £40 firmware upgrade being done?

I'm replacing a RCD 300 in my 07 Jetta, I would really appreciate help!

:confused::confused::confused::confused:

4NT

21-09-2009, 03:44 PM

Anyone who happens to read all of this and is wondering about the newer 310's and 510's I've just gone through the install process and found out that it does need the cable as shown on page one to adapt the aerial, this was about £26 from the dealer, most dealers will discount by 10% without a problem.

As for the firm ware (or battery drain) problem apparently this was only on a few of the early or on the odd one of these units, the head unit thinks it's looking for a CD being inserted and switches itself on, it then reverts to radio and powers down after about an hour, imagine it does this once every few hours after a couple of days the battery would be drained. A VW technician told me that if the unit does have this glitch just leave a cd in it.

Maine hasn't switched itself on at all and thus far has been a good unit with lots of functionality and looks ace with the large display and cd/radio text too.

Hope this helps.

:beerchug:

gogzyb

16-11-2009, 03:23 PM

Hi,

Seeing as there seem to be so many problems installing the RCD 510 into a Golf Mk 5 and, having spoken to many VW dealers who do not seem to be able to give me an answer as to whether they can resolve the problem, it begs the question...

Is it possible to fit the RNS 510 into a Golf Mk 5 without the battery drain problem?

Thanks
G

tiching99

01-12-2009, 11:20 PM

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walkergolf

05-12-2009, 04:48 PM

I brought a RNS510 from ebay and the aerial connection is a nightmare, the original lead in the car has two Fakra the new one has one! is also seems to need a 12v power amplifier.
I still have not solved this one , i am not sure what the two leads are going to .
beware as the audio shops tell of horror stories of wrecking comms links if the 12v is pluged into the wrong socket

onzarob

05-12-2009, 09:41 PM

You just need an adaptor lead from VW, I have one they cost about £25 you can have mine for £17 including postage. Apart from that it is plug and play :)

Painterman73

10-12-2009, 09:57 PM

You just need an adaptor lead from VW, I have one they cost about £25 you can have mine for £17 including postage. Apart from that it is plug and play :)

Hi Onzarob, did you give up on fitting your 310 in the end? Is it more trouble than it's worth? I've just bought one so would be interested in your thoughts and would be interested in your adaptor.

Cheers

Graham

onzarob

14-12-2009, 10:30 PM

Hi Onzarob, did you give up on fitting your 310 in the end? Is it more trouble than it's worth? I've just bought one so would be interested in your thoughts and would be interested in your adaptor.

Cheers

Graham

Hello sorry for the slow reply, i sold mine on in the end. I wish i still had it but a flat battery drive you mad!!!

I think there is a software update about, but getting info out of VW can be frustrating.

The 310 will give you track readouts from mp3 cds and when you have an iPod so worth it...but only if you don't get a flat battery.

jas1500_1

08-01-2010, 12:33 AM

Hi Rob, I'm thinking of changing my standard radio from my golf for an MFD2 like you said you used to have, as a man of experiance, do you think it's worth it or should i maybe try for something else? i've heard that the install for the MFD2 is simple and easy to do which is a big + for me. thanks for any advice, Jas.

P.s this is open for anyones advise so please feel free:biglaugh:

onzarob

08-01-2010, 09:47 AM

The MFD2 is ok as long a you have a CD changer as well. Also the updated CD are around £100 and most units for sale the cds are at least 3 years old so factor thath in. I personally think they are over priced secondhand, the RCD510 are allot better in function and having a harddisc mean you can load mp3's etc

I Personally think a tomtom is a better solution than a MFD2.

jas1500_1

08-01-2010, 07:41 PM

thanks Rob. I don't have the cd changer but i do have the ipod prep. A friend of mine who works for VW says the car will be worth £500 more 2nd hand value and its only gonna cost me the price of an MFD2 + GPS so its decision time i think. Many thanks for the advice though (and the newly aquired headache)ha.
do you know what would be the cost to install the 510 if i did go down that route? cheers.

jas1500_1

08-01-2010, 08:27 PM

silly question maybe but what is the difference between the RNS510 and the MFD3 units? are they exactly the same??

dariog

05-05-2010, 11:14 AM

Could you let me know where the vw dealer is and phone number?

cheers mate

I got in touch with my local dealer today and asked one of their technicians. They said that to get the RCD510 working on an older MkV Golf is a simple case of upgrading the firmware on the STEREO itself!

Apparently, if it hasn't been done already when you buy the stereo, it's a simple job that costs about 40 quid from the dealer. He said that the main cause of the battery discharge is that, without the firmware update, the stereo will power up randomly throughout the night and drain the battery?!

I'm gonna give it a go I think. I want that stereo!! :aargh4:

redrolo

05-05-2010, 07:14 PM

Could you let me know where the vw dealer is and phone number?

cheers mate

Why pay £40 to have your firmware downgraded and get less functions on your stereo/bluetooth etc, when for £80-100 you can get your canbus upgraded to latest spec and get all features for your stereo and other car functions?

onzarob

05-05-2010, 10:23 PM

Why pay £40 to have your firmware downgraded and get less functions on your stereo/bluetooth etc,

I think if you read the post it say upgraded and I do not know of any fuction being removed, it just an issue with the canbus and stereo not knowing to switch to low power.

redrolo

13-05-2010, 07:47 PM

I think if you read the post it say upgraded and I do not know of any fuction being removed, it just an issue with the canbus and stereo not knowing to switch to low power.
Yes Like I said the only way to change it is to either downgrade the firmware or new canbus, it certainly isnt upgrade. You may want to read up on it.

DelB

19-06-2010, 02:44 PM

Hi,

Hope you guys don't mind me dragging this subject up again, but I've just bought a 2006 GTI which is fantastic, but the fitted RCD300 is appalling! Before I shell out £450 on an RCD510, can I just confirm that if I take it to a VW dealer, they will be able to install it and any required Canbus update for me without the battery drain issue?

Thanks all.

elvismiggell

19-06-2010, 11:34 PM

DelB

20-06-2010, 12:05 AM

Yes, but VW will charge you stupid amounts of money for doing it!

How stupid is stupid, do you reckon?

Cheers.

Issac Hunt

20-06-2010, 09:25 AM

You cant 'update' the CAN gateway to resolve battery drain issues - it must be replaced.

You'd be far better off (both financially and in terms of aggravation) in fitting the radio yourself and finding someone with VCDS to code it for you rather than risking a dealer making a hash of it.

Fitting the radio and swopping the CAN gateway (if required) is easy and takes under 30 minutes.

DelB

24-06-2010, 09:37 AM

Well, have bought an RCD510 and am hoping to have it fitted tomorrow. :D

Will post again once it's done to report on any issues I have either during fitting or after.

Cheers for your advice.

boyd1963

14-07-2010, 07:37 PM

Does this CanBus problem affect cars that do not have buttons on the steering wheel? I've got a 2005 Touran with no buttons on the wheel and the basic info display between the dials and was wondering about fitting an RCD 310.

Issac Hunt

14-07-2010, 08:46 PM

boyd1963

21-07-2010, 10:40 AM

No, its related to the age of the car. Basically the if the radio you intend to fit now was not available as an option on your car at the time your car was new then you might encounter problems.

Thats not a 100% exact statement of course, just a rough idea.

Depending on the age and/or software revision level of the stereo you intend to fit then you might have a battery drain issue on a 2005 car. Its easy to solve though and worth the effort for a better stereo in the car.

Thanks for the update. By easy to resolve do you mean changing the CanBus. Do you have any idea where would I find that on a Touran and how miuch would a replacement part cost or is it just a software update?

Issac Hunt

21-07-2010, 01:42 PM

Yes, its easy to change. I dont know where it is on a Touran but it'll be behind the dash/centre console somewhere.

Price depends where you source one from, They come up on Ebay (and Ebay.de) or from the dealer I think they are around £110+vat IIRC .

As posted earlier in the thread, the gateway needs replacing - You cannot update the software on it.

daclyn

04-08-2010, 08:07 AM

redrolo

14-11-2010, 11:11 PM

Golf Mk 5 Plus 55 plate. (RH Drive) Upgraded RCD310 to a RCD510 09 model.

I have the issue of Battery Drain and have bought a CanBus module.

Where do I find the CanBus module. (I have looked under the Dash Drivers Side)

Many Thanks..

:1zhelp:

I believe it is behind the ashtray in the centre (same as the passat b6). The link for the vagcom is the thing by the drivers feet.

You need to get the module programmed to the car via the vagcom link.