Matrix headlight upgrade

[Tezargh]

Curious if anyone has tried doing this to the standard HID kit, I'm currently in the process of purchasing all the necessary parts as I have been told it is possible as long as the car has the adaptive cruise control option and assistance package. Also looking to upgrade stock sound system to the b&o

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[andyhud007]

b&o will need a whole new front dash... aint worth it.

[Tezargh]

I have already ordered the B&O kit, new roof liner for the rear 2 speakers that need to be installed on the roof and the 2 front pillar trims. i was told the dash is fine, Why does dash need to be replaced? I know that the b&o have the speakers that rise up from the front 2 grills is that the reason for it needing a different dash?

Matrix lights have also been ordered and will arrive next week.

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[booba]

I have already ordered the B&O kit, new roof liner for the rear 2 speakers that need to be installed on the roof and the 2 front pillar trims. i was told the dash is fine, Why does dash need to be replaced? I know that the b&o have the speakers that rise up from the front 2 grills is that the reason for it needing a different dash?

Matrix lights have also been ordered and will arrive next week.

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Hi. I have been pondering the b&o upgrade. Do you have any further information on parts required and also where you sourced the parts from? I have factory Bose. Any idea on coding and how to get around component protection that may be required?

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[Tezargh]

I have an installer I'll be sending the car to called euro car upgrades (jku.com.au) so im not 100 percent about the programming at this stage as that whole wiring scheme freaked me out. I sourced all my parts from a company called gtvgroup.lt , they have an ebay page under the seller name of gtv-group this is the item i contacted him on via ebay and he sourced all the parts and sent me a paypal invoice
Audi Q7 2016 4M 3,0 TDI quattro *spare parts package* | eBay (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222515370441)

The items say they will arrive on the 23rd so i will know for sure if his parts are any good

I have the standard sound system and was told by my installer i definitely need the wire loom as that itself could cost over a grand in connectors etc. I think your bose system comes with the rear 2 ceiling speakers so i don't think you need to order the roof liner like i have and also had to order the A and B front pillars to house the additional front facing speakers.

I'd suggest waiting before purchasing anything until i receive all the products just to make sure they are of good quality.
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[Tezargh]

Just few other pics of parts. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170618/536828d9eba84145a041467a0adf18a4.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170618/f129d1a6d8154abc1d108cb7838d7fb1.jpg

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[booba]

Awesome, I need the headliner as Bose doesn't have speakers. Euro car upgrades wanted 17500 for the complete install.. out of of interest, how much were the parts and what is euro car upgrades wanting for install? Martin quoted me this recently from jku.

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[Tezargh]

Yeah he couldn't find a bno system at the time but estimated roughly over 10k just for the speakers and no wiring. For all the parts there i paid 2900euro so about 4.6k, he hasnt yet quoted me for the install until he can see all the parts

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[booba]

Yeah he couldn't find a bno system at the time but estimated roughly over 10k just for the speakers and no wiring. For all the parts there i paid 2900euro so about 4.6k, he hasnt yet quoted me for the install until he can see all the parts

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Thanks. Please if you don't mind, keep me updated. I would be interested in seeing the completed job. I assume you are in QLD somewhere? I'm in brisbane southside.

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[Tezargh]

Im in sydney, I'll be getting the car towed up there and probably take a plane trip up to check on things. Will def keep you updated and show pics of items when they arrive. Im also waiting on martin to get back to me about the E-tron driving lights, i reckon they look pretty cool and want them installed all at the same time. Trying to toss up if its worth installing tv tuner...https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170618/eb7ae1b733daec7eb1ed3a2000c6549a.jpg

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[booba]

Cool. Perhaps interested in seeing them work on your car if it all goes well. Is the 4.6 k including duty/gst?

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[Tezargh]

That's what im worried about, waiting to see if i get hit with customs tax. I asked the guy to declare it less than what i paid but not sure if he has.

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[booba]

That's what im worried about, waiting to see if i get hit with customs tax. I asked the guy to declare it less than what i paid but not sure if he has.

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Who is the freight company? FedEx never miss you. DHL sometimes ok.

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[Tezargh]

TNT

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[andyhud007]

I know that the b&o have the speakers that rise up from the front 2 grills is that the reason for it needing a different dash?



My bad, I was thinking about HUD Upgrade, your ok with existing dash for B&O

Good luck.

[Tezargh]

You gave me a heart attack andy...

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[andyhud007]

Apologies. Let us know how it goes. Its an Epic retrofit if it can be done!

[spyderboyant]

Mate,

I'm in Sydney as well and am re-troffiting BOSE to my 2016 Q7. have you ordered or received the four microphones you need for Active Noise Cancellation (ANC). You will see four holes around the car for them. Without them you will get errors on the B&O.

Also, make sure JKU are aware of datasets to allow your existing MBI2 to talk to the b&O amp. are you upgrading from Audi Active sound (9VD) or BOSE (9VS)?

cheers
A

[Tezargh]

Could you send me a photo of the mics in your car so i can ask my supplier please, thanks for heads up

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[spyderboyant]

No mics in my headliner as BOSE has a single one in overhead light cluster (1 - in picture below). You should see four mic holes in the headliner you purchased. Actually, the MICs are most probably already installed as they are "semi" incorporated into the headline. Have a look at your headliner

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[Tezargh]

The one in the light, is that a standard mic on all the cars or would that need to be upgraded i wonder. Installer has confirmed that the mics will still be in the headliner but forgot to ask him about that one in the light

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[spyderboyant]

I know its needed for BOSE. There are another two MICs but they are for the voice control stuff to the MIB. Just checked and yes you need it. This microphone goes to the b&O amplifier but it appears there other ANC do not so you might be all good...

BTW, do you have Traffic Sign Recognition (TSR) working?

[spyderboyant]

Then again the wiring diagrams say that the 4 additional microphones go back to the amp.... That's if the correct package was selected.. I reckon you should be sweet with the single microphone up front

[Tezargh]

I read up that the traffic sign recognition was disabled in Australian vehicles in another forum on here

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[Tezargh]

Yeh I've got the complete wiring loom for a q7 so it should be in there or on the roof liner, also should come with the optical fibre cable

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[booba]

Hi, thanks for the info. I am looking into b&o retrofit as well from Bose. I believe most of wiring will be in place except for motorise tweeters and anc mics perhaps. Do you have any further info on these data sets? I assume that Bose datasets won't do.

thanks,
j



Mate,

I'm in Sydney as well and am re-troffiting BOSE to my 2016 Q7. have you ordered or received the four microphones you need for Active Noise Cancellation (ANC). You will see four holes around the car for them. Without them you will get errors on the B&O.

Also, make sure JKU are aware of datasets to allow your existing MBI2 to talk to the b&O amp. are you upgrading from Audi Active sound (9VD) or BOSE (9VS)?

cheers
A

[Tezargh]

Just an update, deliveries didnt come through as promised yet as both my speakers and headlights got held up in customs, just forked out nearly 700dollars on the matrix headlights to clear customs. Waiting to see how much the speakers are going to set me back...

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[Tezargh]

Headlights have arrived, love how the guy drew the fragile symbol on the box... cant wait to get these bad boys installed.

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[Tezargh]

Wont be getting my shipment anytime soon, TNT was just hit by ransomware and has taken out the system Its hit globally again... couldn't they have waited just one more day

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[James Hamilton]

Hi mate
I am near Sydney also! Are you by any chance a member of Audi Club Sydney?

[Tezargh]

Nah im not, this is my first audi

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[James Hamilton]

are you a member of Audi Club Sydney mate?

[Tezargh]

are you a member of Audi Club Sydney mate?
No im not, this is my first audi so haven't joined any clubs as of yet

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[James Hamilton]

you should! I am. There are a couple of member Q7's and SQ7's to meet up with and talk Audi!

[Tezargh]

Sounds good, i will sign up do you have any details?

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[James Hamilton]

there is a facebook page https://www.facebook.com/AudiClubSydneyInc/

[James Hamilton]

Im keen to do the led light upgrade (not matrix) also. Be good to chat with you re this? Are you on whatsapp?

[Tezargh]

Yeah but im not doing the coding myself, im sending the car to have all the upgrades done

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[spyderboyant]

Do you have VCDS? If so, what is the hardware version of your MIB2?4M0 035 041 or 4M0 035 035?

[Tezargh]

Do you have VCDS? If so, what is the hardware version of your MIB2?4M0 035 041 or 4M0 035 035?
I dont have vcds

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[booba]

nice looking headlights, so glad mine came with that option.. did the headlights come with all the control modules as well required to make it work? how is the b&o shipment coming along?


Headlights have arrived, love how the guy drew the fragile symbol on the box... cant wait to get these bad boys installed.

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[Tezargh]

nice looking headlights, so glad mine came with that option.. did the headlights come with all the control modules as well required to make it work? how is the b&o shipment coming along?
Speakers arrived and so did the roof liner and whole car wiring loom. The headlights came with all the modules installed (so i have been told) i don't require anything else at this point. I will be sending the car off for install once my front grille and speaker trim arrives.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170705/ec142be2ef6eabae4392f05c76645cd4.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170705/fee98570deec7da496c595d8cf56529c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170705/dfea96d3036b6115cb58ea10727bde53.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170705/4ab91b1be97b4918ec46fa81e4a53039.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170705/11c7050dac03ac0d41fa452887f37ca6.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170705/5759c90e32a1e533cfb3421b8b01388e.jpg

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[booba]

Very nice, makes me glad that i have bose now and the speaker ports already in headliner. That package looks huge due to the roofliner.

i think my car will already have microphone in the headliner - they are for vehicle anc and i think b&o use those as well.

please keep us updated, i spoke to martin at jku as well and i plan to do most of the install myself and have jku do final coding.

[Tezargh]

Yeh so the roof liner didnt have the microphone ports, i think this roof liner is a bose one and not one for a b&o so will have to retrofit in the mics as i believe there are atleast 4 that need to be installed. The wiring looks tedious for b&o

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[booba]

hi,

wiring isn't difficult fomr bose to b&o but from standard system then it could be. I think that all q7 have the mic inbuilt, you won't see mic holes but they are there hidden away i think. I have reviewed all the wiring diagrams and there are not wires going to headliner for mic from the amp. The only microphone is the one front top above the centre dash - this is a single 2 wire connect and the part number is the same for bose and b&o.

i think you will just need that part - i can get out of etka if you need.




Yeh so the roof liner didnt have the microphone ports, i think this roof liner is a bose one and not one for a b&o so will have to retrofit in the mics as i believe there are atleast 4 that need to be installed. The wiring looks tedious for b&o

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[Tezargh]

Martin said he has some that he will use for me, i appreciate your offer though thank you!

I think im more excited to see the matrix headlights in action. Oh and the speakers didn't come with any screws so hopefully martin can source those.

Have you already ordered the b&o kit for your car?


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[booba]

yeah, matrix is awesome, it was amazing seeing the system light up all parts of the road without blinding drivers in front or oncoming.

with the b&o covers, they are plastic welded so they will need to break this weld for your original covers and then use the right screws to put them back in

[Tezargh]

yeah, matrix is awesome, it was amazing seeing the system light up all parts of the road without blinding drivers in front or oncoming.

with the b&o covers, they are plastic welded so they will need to break this weld for your original covers and then use the right screws to put them back in
Fingers crossed they do a neat job, i ordered night vision to go with it as martin said they work hand in hand.

For the matrix lights do you have to keep turning on the automatic high beams everytime you start the car for it to do that feature?

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[booba]

hi, yes you need to turn them on by pushing the left stalk forward but not full forward. i am not sure how the systems go hand in had, the camera is thermal and how lit the road is up front has no bearing on it. i am considering night vision as well.

[Tezargh]

I was told when pedestrians/animals are detected in the thermal camera it will flash the matrix light on them

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[srbsq7]

I was told when pedestrians/animals are detected in the thermal camera it will flash the matrix light on them

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Might be wrong but I thought that required more accuracy and was coming in the newer Matrix Laser (not LED) lights?

[Tezargh]

Before i forget, how are the lights around bends? My other cars have adaptive headlights and quite like how the turn in to the corners

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[Tezargh]

Might be wrong but I thought that required more accuracy and was coming in the newer Matrix Laser (not LED) lights?
Saw an ad for the audi a4 with the matrix leds saying it tracks pedestrians, hopefully one of the guys on here can let us know if the q7 matrix do in fact do it or not

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[srbsq7]

I can’t say I really notice it above 40mph because everything is illuminated!

When you slow down for a junction / roundabout or make a 90 degree turn you notice it. I wasn’t sure whether this was standard to all LED headlights though?

[Tezargh]

Hey quick quesh, when you unlock your car does your matrix headlights do a sweep eg flashing each led projector from left to right? Skip to 2mins on this youtube vid CL ▶ Active Sound System Soundcheck - CL by Christian Lübke - YouTube (https://youtu.be/1s8okQjUFfs)

First time I've noticed that.

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[booba]

Hi. I haven't seen it on unlock, it happens on engine start

[Tezargh]

My luck.. got an error on car now for emissions fault, audi is coming to tow the car. I was planning to get all the work done next week so i guess its good timing.

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[Tezargh]

Hi. I haven't seen it on unlock, it happens on engine startHey are the front turn signals dynamic or just standard flashing?

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[booba]

Hey are the front turn signals dynamic or just standard flashing?

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standard

[boman5000]

Also at the 10 sec mark.

[Tezargh]

Also at the 10 sec mark.Oh yeh, didn't notice that before. Would have been nice to add that feature when your unlocking the car

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[Tezargh]

And so it begins!

Sound system is first stage.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170727/00f3f5f827c5f206c2b68cad8f68e164.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170727/8c47b135098d252bcd93d37f2cfbbb02.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170727/6da22a37f04e4a3ff7d1aac8104d79cf.jpg

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[Tezargh]

And so it begins!

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Sent from my SM-G935F using TapatalkTossing up if its worth wrapping back silver trim in carbon fibre or not

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[Tezargh]

So from just only wanting to install matrix lights i have added to the list the following:

-Matrix headlights

-B&O sound system + new headliner to house rear ceiling speakers

-night vision camera

-E-tron daytime driving lights

-honeycomb grille

-brake calipers painted

-blackvue front and rear camera

-possibly wrapping of rear trim in carbon fibre



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[MacUsers]

So from just only wanting to install matrix lights i have added to the list the following:

-Matrix headlights
-B&O sound system + new headliner to house rear ceiling speakers
-night vision camera
-E-tron daytime driving lights
-honeycomb grille
-brake calipers painted
-blackvue front and rear camera
-possibly wrapping of rear trim in carbon fibre


Just wondering, isn't it better to sell the car get a new one? Not discouraging but looks like it's world of jobs and taking the car apart bit by bit.
Also remember, some company will invalidate the insurance if not reported. According to them, after the car registration, whatever added could be considered as "modified" if not offered by the manufacturers for that particular model. At least mine one does (when I asked them to explain what does that "modified" means).

[Tezargh]

Just wondering, isn't it better to sell the car get a new one? Not discouraging but looks like it's world of jobs and taking the car apart bit by bit.
Also remember, some company will invalidate the insurance if not reported. According to them, after the car registration, whatever added could be considered as "modified" if not offered by the manufacturers for that particular model. At least mine one does (when I asked them to explain what does that "modified" means).I've considered that but they were asking for 115k aud for new with bugger all options, no assistance pack or quad zone air, just an empty shell. I bought my car ex demo with ambient lighting, quad zone air, heated seats , assistance pack, active lane assist for under 100k as it had 6,000ks on it. To have the b&o from factory is a 15k option alone and for that money i bought all of these parts and had them installed if not for just a tad more than 15k. I just did a search now and there are no cars available with the bang and olufsen, its pretty rare.

spoke to my audi centre and they said wont void warranty as long as it doesn't interfere with the engine and i have a good relationship with the guy there.

Also rang my insurance this morning and told them about it all and they said its fine as long as i have receipts proving what was installed if something were to happen, im lucky because i can insure it for market value which covers more than the cost i put in for parts, off top of my head i think it was 135k for market value.


Ps considering massage seats which is apparently a 10k option but found it for 2k. Does anyone have them installed, keen to know if its worth buying or not

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[Tezargh]

Can someone help me out by telling me what the soft close door part numbers are?

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[booba]

i'm not 100% sure, i did however recently buy two sets for q7 4m softclose on ebay including the door latch, motors, motor holders, wiring looms. the front door latches are lhd/rhd specific so you will need rhd part numbers.


Can someone help me out by telling me what the soft close door part numbers are?

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[Tezargh]

How much did it all set you back

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[booba]

700 euro for a set, will need two front door latches about 320 euro if i can't find them second hand in a rhd country.

[Tezargh]

Photo updates, wiring is complete, coding and testing next. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170828/a4218f3261ab038b2c53da5b42a9a67e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170828/98920f65abc1fb08fe82aaefcc461348.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170828/328bf29c8e25409f9ab0dff5551e612c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170828/8ef4b95f07da5a85903c71a429829312.jpg

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[booba]

awesome, so did they require those headliner mics?

[Tezargh]

Nope, said just the one in the front on the interior light

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[booba]

that is excellent news - i thought that all along, simply because i couldn't find the part numbers anywhere in etka or wiring diagrams in elsa.

[Tezargh]

I can't wait to hear this dam thing.. Driving me nuts, should do a poll on whats the first soundtrack to play on it.

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[Tezargh]

Update photos, seats are in, matrix lights in, speakers all in and now just waiting for component protection to be removed on everything aside from the matrix lightshttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170912/edd1e91dea09bffc7b70dcf45ad66a8f.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170912/4023e297e489bd7a4b42f8701cc11ad4.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170912/f59cf6315984942cbd56b71b3578400a.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170912/2a12e3138b71e7476b46e4c3a8ce3ec8.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170912/33372b489f5d11b5a0aae65676d3afd2.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170912/767bdb713a78056fa241284ef6a1f7b7.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170912/47c98bae6170a24b702611186aba8350.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170912/7197be874e9e87d8e341315b2fe9acac.jpg

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[Tezargh]

Massage seats function working. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170913/ff33dca9fe44e76fe516c53a3b1efa2e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170913/fc8ab3cd58ec08a765be79ebaa2832bd.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170913/e0a2340eacbd2cb02c955c992d10a25e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170913/ec84dcb76a0bbc75da2d99077b0c4df7.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170913/9036e592d4f3892274aac5fa857cf3c7.jpg

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[andyhud007]

This is all great work and great to see the progress but I have to ask, and please don't misunderstand the context of me asking but surely these major changes can't be cheap (parts / delivery / labour etc) so could you have not got the car with it all fitted from factory as apposed to retrofitting it all?

Not being rude at all in asking just curious if your happy to share.

Cheers.

Andy

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[rza]

Amazing install and bravery! Hats off, great work and really enjoying the pictures and progress. Hope it all gets completed soon.

[Tezargh]

This is all great work and great to see the progress but I have to ask, and please don't misunderstand the context of me asking but surely these major changes can't be cheap (parts / delivery / labour etc) so could you have not got the car with it all fitted from factory as apposed to retrofitting it all?

Not being rude at all in asking just curious if your happy to share.

Cheers.

Andy

Sent from my SM-G928F using TapatalkBrand new q7 starts around 115k with bare chassis here in Australia, the bno is 12k option, massage seats 15k, matrix lights roughly 4500k, so that was out of the question. I couldn't find any ex demo's with the options I wanted it would either have one or the other. I visited almost every Audi dealer here with them suggesting to wait until they had their dealer auctions and they would try to find me a car with no guarantee of what options it had which I thought was pretty stupid...

I got lucky with my q7 having the adaptive cruise control, ambient lighting, convenience pack and the quad zone climate control for the price I paid for it. so far what I've spent it still works out cheaper by a long shot but at the same time this is my first time modding a car to this extent and its turned in to a dangerous hobby but at least it keeps me busy and I really enjoy looking for that next part and learning new things.

Just for reference here is a car I found on carsales with just matrix lights, sunroof and acc, 130k

https://www.carsales.com.au/demo/details/Audi-Q7-2017/OAG-AD-14995520



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[Tezargh]

Amazing install and bravery! Hats off, great work and really enjoying the pictures and progress. Hope it all gets completed soon.Dying to get it back! Can't wait to see your new ride when it arrives.

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[andyhud007]

Wowzers, I didn't realise the base car is so expensive... And even just the SE variant... Dread to think what an SQ7 is...

I see your thinking now and I can concur as someone who does retrofitting it can be at times pretty daunting but very rewarding ... But you are using a reputable company to do the work which is a great move.

Have you spoken to your dealer about any post work warranty concerns or what about potential car insurance issues?

Your tenacity is admirable.

Andy

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[Tezargh]

Yeah I spoke to my dealer and he said it's fine but anything that was added they just won't cover it under warranty but he was more curious to know if all these retrofits were possible especially the matrix lights

I was offered last week an ex demo sq7 from same dealer for 165k, again didn't have many options

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[Nemo78]

Tezargh you're a brave man....good stuff [emoji1360]

Andy...massaging seats, go on you know want to retro those [emoji5]

[Tezargh]

Need some help, does anyone have massage seats at all? My buckles for the front seats don't fit so I need to order the new buckle clips but can't find the right part number, I was given the vin number from the car that it was taken out from but Audi says it's not in the system.

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[Tezargh]

Question for the guys with matrix lights, is there any cooling device behind your matrix lights? I'm getting this error

Address 29: Left Light (J1018) Labels: 4M0-907-397.clb Part No SW: 4M0 907 397 B HW: 4M0 907 397 B Component: LCM_MLBevoH03 U090 ASAM Dataset: EV_LCMLeftHELLAAU736 001005 ROD: EV_LCMLeftHELLAAU736_VW37.rod VCID: 3620F12189D236F660-8062 2 Faults Found: 0352 - Temperature sensor C11C1 01 [009] - Electrical Failure Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear Freeze Frame: Fault Status: 00000001 Fault Priority: 5 Fault Frequency: 13 Reset counter: 65 Mileage: 11323 km Date: 2017.09.27 Time: 16:22:58 Address 39: Right Light (J1023) Labels: 4M0-907-397.clb Part No SW: 4M0 907 397 B HW: 4M0 907 397 B Component: LCM_MLBevoH03 U090 ASAM Dataset: EV_LCMRightHELLAAU736 001005 ROD: EV_LCMLeftHELLAAU736_VW37.rod VCID: 3620F12189D236F660-8062 2 Faults Found: 0352 - Temperature sensor C11C1 01 [009] - Electrical Failure Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear Freeze Frame: Fault Status: 00000001 Fault Priority: 5 Fault Frequency: 13 Reset counter: 65 Mileage: 11323 km Date: 2017.09.27 Time: 16:22:57

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[srbsq7]

I believe there is. I seem to remember watching an Audi video which had an exploded animation of the matrix components and there was a cooling device. Let me look!

[srbsq7]

Not the one but similar and had the fans and air duct at the rear. This was an A8 from 2014 so assume Q7 is similar

https://youtu.be/D6O2-O6sMMI

[Tezargh]

Anyone able to find the part number for it?

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[anemeth]

There is a fan in the headlight unit, otherwise I cannot see anything else for cooling. Here is the part number (see link below):



8U0907463A (http://www.realoem.me/search/tvn/8U0907463A)

fan for headlamps



http://www.realoem.me/Audi/RDW/AQ7/2017/859/R/9/941/941010#3

[Tezargh]

There is a fan in the headlight unit, otherwise I cannot see anything else for cooling. Here is the part number (see link below):



8U0907463A (http://www.realoem.me/search/tvn/8U0907463A)

fan for headlamps



http://www.realoem.me/Audi/RDW/AQ7/2017/859/R/9/941/941010#3Awesome thanks for that, not sure what the issue is. waiting to hear back from the supplier I bought the lights from but it looks to be the same error on both lights so I highly doubt the fan is not working so I'm hoping it might be a wiring problem that can be easily fixed.

The installer said the lights start up, does its sequence flash and then drops out 40secs after.

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[anemeth]

Start checking on T14e pin 5 and T14d pin 5 connectors, this is where the main fan gets the earth connection.

There is an additional fan built in the light (called Fan 2 on the wiring diagramm), this fan is built into the light unit, you cannot get it separetly.

[Tezargh]

Start checking on T14e pin 5 and T14d pin 5 connectors, this is where the main fan gets the earth connection.

There is an additional fan built in the light (called Fan 2 on the wiring diagramm), this fan is built into the light unit, you cannot get it separetly.Ive just sent an email off to the installer, I hope it's that, I have been without a car now for 2months.

Thanks a million for this!

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[Tezargh]

2nd set of headlights are in, first set were returned due to it being an incompatible version/older model, fingers crossed they get this to work 100percent https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171129/c319bd6a66f916abf4f33d681ea4bdde.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171129/2255ac4e3c28971c60faa6181e2207e3.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171129/f9fdc47f0094043f14e070c0b03fe479.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171129/55e3eea5a1ae2f5c301b6aa276908ea0.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171129/c4b6c38f032127396b9fe14909616182.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171129/f887b4800a6347fe5a08d6265f8dcdad.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171129/b50eaf67fab60ed18df3bf25f391a3f7.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171129/d666b416f8716609b1a603630dd16156.jpg

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[andyhud007]

Great update. Wow, incompatible? What was wrong with the original set that meant they wouldnt work with your car?

[Tezargh]

That was the set throwing out the temperature warning, they also said it had a few less wires in the connector where mine had more or something along those lines... The original set I purchased was from a 2015 model and I needed 2016 and up in order for it to play nice

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[Tezargh]

Now stuck on trying to code the lights from left hand drive to right hand drive...

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[FortyPlus]

Now stuck on trying to code the lights from left hand drive to right hand drive...

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While in no position to offer advice as I have just taken delivery of Q7 e-tron, I do recall reading in pre-purchase documentation that the matrix LED adjusted (LHD-RHD) automatically based on GPS data?

I might of course be raving..
Hugh/ Dublin

[Tezargh]

While in no position to offer advice as I have just taken delivery of Q7 e-tron, I do recall reading in pre-purchase documentation that the matrix LED adjusted (LHD-RHD) automatically based on GPS data?

I might of course be raving..
Hugh/ DublinI wish, the car was taken to audi to have the lights calibrated and they were the one's who said needs to be coded for rhd before calibration... Sucks big time!

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[AlisterB]

To the OP - good on you for taking on such a big project!

Is the car back up and running / on the road now? Has there been a blow out in costs or timeframes compared to what you were originally expecting?

Are you having to 'to and fro' between Sydney and Maroochydore? Or are you using a Sydney workshop to do any of the work?

Any other comments on the process for anyone else contemplating doing any of the same mods?

[Tezargh]

To the OP - good on you for taking on such a big project!

Is the car back up and running / on the road now? Has there been a blow out in costs or timeframes compared to what you were originally expecting?

Are you having to 'to and fro' between Sydney and Maroochydore? Or are you using a Sydney workshop to do any of the work?

Any other comments on the process for anyone else contemplating doing any of the same mods?There's definitely been a blow out in the time frame, was originally meant to be only a month and it's been more like 4 or so.

Still haven't got the car back due to the issue with the matrix lights being left hand drive and Audi not wanting to calibrate them until it shows as a right hand drive set so kind of stuck at the moment. Will have news on Monday on what the go is.

When I get the car back and if I run in to any issue I'm sure I can get them to remotely log in and fix any errors that may arise rather than sending the car up to Maroochydore and back.

I'm dying to hear the sound system and try out those massage seats, I'm almost at the point of giving up on the matrix lights and having the hids put back in

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[AlisterB]

There's definitely been a blow out in the time frame, was originally meant to be only a month and it's been more like 4 or so.
Wow - that's a bit of a pain. Hopefully you've got another car to tie you over.


Still haven't got the car back due to the issue with the matrix lights being left hand drive and Audi not wanting to calibrate them until it shows as a right hand drive set so kind of stuck at the moment. Will have news on Monday on what the go is.

Do you know the part number for the headlights? Are they 4M0 (universal), 4M1 (LHD) or 4M2 (RHD)? That should give you an indication of whether they can be coded to suit.

[Tezargh]

Wow - that's a bit of a pain. Hopefully you've got another car to tie you over.



Do you know the part number for the headlights? Are they 4M0 (universal), 4M1 (LHD) or 4M2 (RHD)? That should give you an indication of whether they can be coded to suit.Yeah lucky I have another car. I think the part number was 4m1, but does it really matter considering the whole idea of the matrix lights is to not blind traffic?

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[AlisterB]

Yeah lucky I have another car. I think the part number was 4m1, but does it really matter considering the whole idea of the matrix lights is to not blind traffic?


If there are 4M1 and 4M2 derivatives, there is obviously a hardware difference between the two that coding alone won't be able to fix/rectify.

More than likely a default difference in the beam pattern.

[Tezargh]

Does anyone know a price for a set of the rhd or universal? I can't find any

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[Tezargh]

Anyone know where I can pickup these parts up from and how much

4M0941773D

4M0941774D



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[AlisterB]

Have you been able to confirm the part number of the Matrix headlights that you currently have? Are they 4M0s or 4M1s?

[Tezargh]

Part number I have installed is
4M0941035C 4M0941036C

He said hes having issues with getting the fog lights to turn on, doesn't turn on at all but there is no errors

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[Tezargh]

Have you been able to confirm the part number of the Matrix headlights that you currently have? Are they 4M0s or 4M1s?Apparently if the end letters are D- RHD, C-LHD

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[andyhud007]

Anyone know where I can pickup these parts up from and how much

4M0941773D

4M0941774D



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This place has always been good to me...

Catalogue - Cars245.com (https://cars245.com/en/catalog/?q=4m0941773d)

Catalogue - Cars245.com (https://cars245.com/en/catalog/?q=4m0941774d)


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[Tezargh]

This place has always been good to me...

Catalogue - Cars245.com (https://cars245.com/en/catalog/?q=4m0941773d)

Catalogue - Cars245.com (https://cars245.com/en/catalog/?q=4m0941774d)


Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]Thank you Andy! I've just left them an email, fingers crossed they get back to me asap

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[AlisterB]

Any update on this saga?

Hopefully you've got it resolved and can get on with enjoying your Q7 again!

[Tezargh]

Any update on this saga?

Hopefully you've got it resolved and can get on with enjoying your Q7 again!Lol nope... The guys are off on holiday and don't get back till Monday and hopefully my rhd lights would have arrived at their warehouse

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[AlisterB]

Wow - you must be very patient!!

I hope it is resolved this time without any further issues/delays.

[Tezargh]

Wow - you must be very patient!!

I hope it is resolved this time without any further issues/delays.Fingers crossed otherwise the old lights go back on and I get the car towed back, I need the car before end of the month to take the wife away on a lil break

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[french_audi]

Not sure about Australia but in the UK or Europe you'd certainly be much better off selling and buying a similar car with the options you really want.

Options added later won't show up on the Audi official vehicle spec and therefore won't be included in a resale value unless selling privately. Clearly if you can successfully fit the add ons yourself to high Audi factory standards then you will save all those expensive labour hours. Even still you have to be very keen and have large pockets to go down this road.

Good luck in any case....

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[Tezargh]

Hey does anyone have matrix lights from factory, the installer can't seem to get the fog lights to turn on on the actual headlight, was wondering if I could copy your code?

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[Tezargh]

Not sure about Australia but in the UK or Europe you'd certainly be much better off selling and buying a similar car with the options you really want.

Options added later won't show up on the Audi official vehicle spec and therefore won't be included in a resale value unless selling privately. Clearly if you can successfully fit the add ons yourself to high Audi factory standards then you will save all those expensive labour hours. Even still you have to be very keen and have large pockets to go down this road.

Good luck in any case....

Sent from my SM-G950F using TapatalkYeh been asked this many times, here in Australia a base model q7 is 115k brand new. I will be keeping this car for a long time hence why I said stuff it might as well add all the dream options. Lastly it is extremely rare to find one with just the bang and olufsen sound system installed

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[AlisterB]

Fingers crossed otherwise the old lights go back on and I get the car towed back, I need the car before end of the month to take the wife away on a lil break

I assume you've got the Q7 back now Tezargh?

Where did you land with everything?

Happy with the mods?

[Tezargh]

I assume you've got the Q7 back now Tezargh?

Where did you land with everything?

Happy with the mods?Haven't got it back yet :'( had to return 2 sets of matrix lights, 1st set was for 2015 model and was not compatible with the E-Tron lights, 2nd set was for left hand drive and Audi by law said they were not aloud to calibrate it and now I'm waiting on the delivery of the 3rd set which is rhd... I'm dying.

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[AlisterB]

Haven't got it back yet :'( had to return 2 sets of matrix lights, 1st set was for 2015 model and was not compatible with the E-Tron lights, 2nd set was for left hand drive and Audi by law said they were not aloud to calibrate it and now I'm waiting on the delivery of the 3rd set which is rhd... I'm dying.

Wow - what an ordeal!! You're a very patient man!

Sounds like the car will have been off the road for 6 months when all said and done?

[spyderboyant]

Hey does anyone have matrix lights from factory, the installer can't seem to get the fog lights to turn on on the actual headlight, was wondering if I could copy your code?

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Hey, interesting read! Did you get the installers to see whether VAG Can Pro might be able to see whether LHD or RHD is a dataset in the light controllers? If such, they should be able to change them between LHD and RHD. It might however not be possible as it may be a physical thing. What you need to remember with headlights is that for the low-beam, it needs to be focused such on-coming traffic won't be blinded yet you have sufficient illumination in front of you. With the old bi-xenon lights on the Q7 4L, it was a shutter that had a cutaway that blocked the beam from blinding on coming traffic. High-beam was the shutter flapping up and not blocking any of the beam. Its interesting with Matrix LED lights in that Audi claim that

XENON HEadlight - Main beam Changes over dipped beam using shutter
LED Headlight: Adaptation for driving on the opposite side of the road: It is not necessary to adapt the headlights. No further action is needed in order to meet the statutory requirements.
LED Matrix: SAME as LED Headlight..

Having said that, I think when the low-beam is on, I can see a shutter pattern (ie beam cuts away on the right hand light to not blind oncoming traffic).

[Tezargh]

Hey, interesting read! Did you get the installers to see whether VAG Can Pro might be able to see whether LHD or RHD is a dataset in the light controllers? If such, they should be able to change them between LHD and RHD. It might however not be possible as it may be a physical thing. What you need to remember with headlights is that for the low-beam, it needs to be focused such on-coming traffic won't be blinded yet you have sufficient illumination in front of you. With the old bi-xenon lights on the Q7 4L, it was a shutter that had a cutaway that blocked the beam from blinding on coming traffic. High-beam was the shutter flapping up and not blocking any of the beam. Its interesting with Matrix LED lights in that Audi claim that

XENON HEadlight - Main beam Changes over dipped beam using shutter
LED Headlight: Adaptation for driving on the opposite side of the road: It is not necessary to adapt the headlights. No further action is needed in order to meet the statutory requirements.
LED Matrix: SAME as LED Headlight..

Having said that, I think when the low-beam is on, I can see a shutter pattern (ie beam cuts away on the right hand light to not blind oncoming traffic).Our argument with Audi was "isn't the purpose of the matrix lights is to avoid blinding oncoming traffic anyway" but they wouldn't budge on their decision. my installer tried to change the Dataset but couldn't do it, said needed new housing for the lights or something along those lines. Im really over it and just want the car back but at the same time I really want matrix lights as they make the car quite sexy and give it that aggressive look and also where I live it would come in handy.

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[AlisterB]

Any further update Tezargh?

Hopefully there is light at the end of the tunnel (pardon the pun!).

[Tezargh]

Im still in the tunnel. Waiting for Matrix lights order to come through

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[AlisterB]

Hopefully they'll arrive soon and you'll be back on the road enjoying your Q7 again.

Please keep us updated with how you get on!

[Tezargh]

Hopefully they'll arrive soon and you'll be back on the road enjoying your Q7 again.

Please keep us updated with how you get on!Will post photos Immediately once I get it back, cheers!

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[AlisterB]

Any further update Tezargh?

[Tezargh]

Any further update Tezargh?Still waiting for Matrix lights to come, I was told they were meant to come this week but haven't heard anything back from them

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[AlisterB]

Hopefully they turn up soon Tezargh!

Is the vehicle still up in Maroochydore?

[Tezargh]

Hopefully they turn up soon Tezargh!

Is the vehicle still up in Maroochydore?Yeah still there, feel free to go check it for me :D

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[spyderboyant]

Have you got your car back now and is it working? Its crazy they don't use the standard 4M1 for LHD lights and 4M2 for RHD lights but the PR code for driving on the left and right. I thought it might have been as simple as replacing the control module but they aren't lhd or rhd variants!!! damn.

[Tezargh]

Have you got your car back now and is it working? Its crazy they don't use the standard 4M1 for LHD lights and 4M2 for RHD lights but the PR code for driving on the left and right. I thought it might have been as simple as replacing the control module but they aren't lhd or rhd variants!!! damn.Audi dealership didn't want to touch it for legal reasons until the part was rhd to calibrate.

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[Tezargh]

The update as far as I'm aware is that the matrix lights are installed and awaiting to be calibrated but they are having issues with the E-Tron drls and actually I'm not sure if they got the fog lights to work on the matrix headlights yet, I'll call them and find out shortly

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[spyderboyant]

E-tron as well - wow. The issue here might be that fact you will need the correct light controllers on the back of your matrix lights to support the e-tron DRLs. They have an additional 2 pins to support these DRLs (pins 13 and 14 on the 14 pin connector). The part number is 4M0 907 397 "AD" and was released in 2015 when e-tron came out. If this is not the case definitely let us know what the issue is... I have seen some Russian retrofitting sites showing successful etron DRL retrofits. You also needed a new grill as well I take it for the e-tron DRLs?

On a side note, your LED lighting around your a/c vents, is it red? I thought it was supposed to be white?

BTW Are they your old RHD lights on ebay being sold by the installer? ;-)

[Tezargh]

E-tron as well - wow. The issue here might be that fact you will need the correct light controllers on the back of your matrix lights to support the e-tron DRLs. They have an additional 2 pins to support these DRLs (pins 13 and 14 on the 14 pin connector). The part number is 4M0 907 397 "AD" and was released in 2015 when e-tron came out. If this is not the case definitely let us know what the issue is... I have seen some Russian retrofitting sites showing successful etron DRL retrofits. You also needed a new grill as well I take it for the e-tron DRLs?

On a side note, your LED lighting around your a/c vents, is it red? I thought it was supposed to be white?

BTW Are they your old RHD lights on ebay being sold by the installer? ;-)

He ordered the matrix lights specifically for E-Tron capability so I'm sure it has the pins but I'll forward your message to him, he currently has some Russians logging in to do the coding but they did mention wiring. Oh and yeh ordered the new grilles for the E-Tron lights which he already has with him so it can fit the acc module as well as the E-Tron lights

I have the ambient lighting package, I think he may have set it to red

Those are definitely the old matrix lights but those were the lhd version that Audi didn't want to touch

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[Tezargh]

He ordered the matrix lights specifically for E-Tron capability so I'm sure it has the pins but I'll forward your message to him, he currently has some Russians logging in to do the coding but they did mention wiring. Oh and yeh ordered the new grilles for the E-Tron lights which he already has with him so it can fit the acc module as well as the E-Tron lights

I have the ambient lighting package, I think he may have set it to red

Those are definitely the old matrix lights but those were the lhd version that Audi didn't want to touch

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Ok so the lights definitely have the pins and module is correct, they will attempt more coding tonight but they are also having issues with the fog lights not working on matrix headlight.. Hoping it's an easy coding problem

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[spyderboyant]

will definitely be coding or some wiring if others have it working.... They just need to compare to a car that has them and whether its an adaption channel versus long coding. So E-Tron is working now minus fog in matrix lights?

RED makes sense if you have ambient lighting package (PR-QQ2 and not standard PR-QQ1). Did you get that retrofitted as well or did it come with the car? Are you getting ACC retrofitted as well? I am going to retrofit the ambient lighting package but its painful as you can get most things except for the ambient lighting in the door as you need the correct door cards. I am going to try and fit 3mm perspex rod in my door card to see what it looks like. I have no interest in replacing my current door cards.

[Tezargh]

E-Tron still not working Russians will jump on that tonight and hoping maybe they can check fog lights as well.

I had ambient lighting from factory, I knew that it would be more difficult finding the parts for that and all the trim etc so didn't bother and also I had acc from factory also

Be sure to show some pics of your retrofit of the ambient lights, is your car lhd or rhd?

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[Tezargh]

Here is a pic of one E-Tron installed, shiny and newhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180321/218b4156854c54d9c68602ff271f8428.jpg

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[Tezargh]

Progress https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180321/9bbdb064ab3e88d5fe979bb7994ff520.jpg

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[Scottishjock]

I have just realised that only the rears have the sweeping indicators not the fronts why is that? My last car had them both front and back.

[Tezargh]

I asked the same question.. Its stupid that it doesn't do it

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[spyderboyant]

So is Etron and fog lights working now?

[spyderboyant]

Its just timings. Q7 were the first to have sweeping indicators on the rear lights. New A4s can have both. My thoughts are the facelift that will be coming out "soonish" for the Q7 4M will have the option for sweeping indicators on the front and most probably the new "laser" matrix front lights... Remember, whenever audi release a vehicle, it generally introduces a new technology. Like the latest TT, it was the first to have the virtual cockpit... then the tech flows into the next releases of other models. Radical technology is generally released with the A8

[Tezargh]

So is Etron and fog lights working now?E-Trons work but fog lights no, they think after Audi calibration it should work. Fingers crossed

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[spyderboyant]

that's strange.... I know there are "parameter" sets for the headlight controllers as they are available with VAG CAN Pro (VCP). In the ZIP they have the following flash files:

Q7_4M0907379AC_AD_LED_MXB_LEFT.flash
Q7_4M0907379AC_AD_LED_MXB_RIGHT.flash
Q7_4M0907379AC_AD_LED_USA_LEFT.flash
Q7_4M0907379AC_AD_LED_USA_RIGHT.flash
Q7_4M0907379AC_AD_XENON_EU_LEFT.flash
Q7_4M0907379AC_AD_XENON_EU_RIGHT.flash
Q7_4M0907379AC_AD_XENON_USA_LEFT.flash
Q7_4M0907379AC_AD_XENON_USA_RIGHT.flash

As your lights are brand new, they might indeed need these new MXB "parameters"? Does the installer have VCP?

[spyderboyant]

I think similar to the Data Sets required to get a MIB talking to a BOSE or B&O amp...

[Tezargh]

that's strange.... I know there are "parameter" sets for the headlight controllers as they are available with VAG CAN Pro (VCP). In the ZIP they have the following flash files:

Q7_4M0907379AC_AD_LED_MXB_LEFT.flash
Q7_4M0907379AC_AD_LED_MXB_RIGHT.flash
Q7_4M0907379AC_AD_LED_USA_LEFT.flash
Q7_4M0907379AC_AD_LED_USA_RIGHT.flash
Q7_4M0907379AC_AD_XENON_EU_LEFT.flash
Q7_4M0907379AC_AD_XENON_EU_RIGHT.flash
Q7_4M0907379AC_AD_XENON_USA_LEFT.flash
Q7_4M0907379AC_AD_XENON_USA_RIGHT.flash

As your lights are brand new, they might indeed need these new MXB "parameters"? Does the installer have VCP?Yeah he does, I'll forward him that info see what he says


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[spyderboyant]

So what was it with the etron to get them working? Just coding? So fog lights throw an error I take it?

[Tezargh]

So what was it with the etron to get them working? Just coding? So fog lights throw an error I take it?They didn't say there was an error with the fogs but the E-Trons were a coding issue

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[Tezargh]

Some more pics of calibration https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180322/529853df82fedb9accfefa5fe76d67ed.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180322/47010abba33c97813c844992b6ee0b1b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180322/73c2729266ba2171a9a7129df1a8c7fb.jpg

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[spyderboyant]

cool. So he gave up on taking it to the dealer for calibration?... Has the calibration been successful? I thought there was some radar stuff that needed to be done at the same time if you have ACC?

Also on the fog lights (all weather lights), reading SSP634 it states "In models equipped with xenon headlights, the onboard power supply control unit J519 activates the gas discharge lamps and the lamps for the fog lights via discrete lines. In addition, J519 provides for a supply of voltage via discrete lines and for communication with the L/H and R/H control units for light control J1018/J1023 via a sub-bus system."

Makes me think there might be a difference in the wiring...

[Tezargh]

that's strange.... I know there are "parameter" sets for the headlight controllers as they are available with VAG CAN Pro (VCP). In the ZIP they have the following flash files:

Q7_4M0907379AC_AD_LED_MXB_LEFT.flash
Q7_4M0907379AC_AD_LED_MXB_RIGHT.flash
Q7_4M0907379AC_AD_LED_USA_LEFT.flash
Q7_4M0907379AC_AD_LED_USA_RIGHT.flash
Q7_4M0907379AC_AD_XENON_EU_LEFT.flash
Q7_4M0907379AC_AD_XENON_EU_RIGHT.flash
Q7_4M0907379AC_AD_XENON_USA_LEFT.flash
Q7_4M0907379AC_AD_XENON_USA_RIGHT.flash

As your lights are brand new, they might indeed need these new MXB "parameters"? Does the installer have VCP?Response I got back;

"We have VGP but with this you need online parametres for Matrix with E-Tron.*

VCP offers Parametrisation for Xenon and Full Led which is not what you have."



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[spyderboyant]

Looking in ElsaWIN, the Matrix headlights have a special calibration tool - VAS 5209B- or VAS 621 001. I don't know whether the approach above will work but will be interested to see whether it does? I know you used to use a similar pattern to calibrate the rear view camera on older Audi'sie Q7 4L (the pattern was placed flat on the ground at the back of the car and a certain distance from the wheels and the calibration test was run from ODIS - no online access required)

[spyderboyant]

They will then need to connect to ODIS online and run a validation of the lights which should see they are missing the parametrization data and then download it to the control modules.

I'm sure VCP can get this info if they ask...

[spyderboyant]

Looking in ElsaWIN, the Matrix headlights have a special calibration tool - VAS 5209B- or VAS 621 001. I don't know whether the approach above will work but will be interested to see whether it does? I know you used to use a similar pattern to calibrate the rear view camera on older Audi'sie Q7 4L (the pattern was placed flat on the ground at the back of the car and a certain distance from the wheels and the calibration test was run from ODIS - no online access required)

Looking again at those tools, they just provide an "angle" value that you then manually add to ODIS that feeds it back into J519 (controller) that then most probably feeds into the headlight control modules..

[spyderboyant]

Its because the low/dipped beam still have "cut-offs" to stop blinding on coming traffic. Nothing to do with high beam I think. google images of headlight shutter patterns and you will see. with LHD lights, the shutter pattern will block out on the left hand light which wont help oncoming traffic which is what it's purpose it.

[spyderboyant]

AAh, that is VAS 6430 calibration board for the A5 camera. I believe it also needs to be calibrated as you need to code it for Matrix Headlights.

[Tezargh]

AAh, that is VAS 6430 calibration board for the A5 camera. I believe it also needs to be calibrated as you need to code it for Matrix Headlights.He did say to me "the A5 camera adaptations R242 is stopping us from adapting the headlights."

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[spyderboyant]

All working now? When do you pick up the car?

[Tezargh]

All working now? When do you pick up the car?Nope they still working on it :$

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[Tezargh]

Latest news:*

EFP - which is basically chassis control - we are getting a missing message on ODIS engineering for this.*

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[Tezargh]

I need someone in Australia with matrix lights installed so I can get a copy of their code, is there anyone in this forum that can help me with that??

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[andyhud007]

I have just realised that only the rears have the sweeping indicators not the fronts why is that? My last car had them both front and back.

Just not on the new Q7 for some reason. Not sure why.

[andyhud007]

I need someone in Australia with matrix lights installed so I can get a copy of their code, is there anyone in this forum that can help me with that??

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What about from UK? We drive on the same side... plenty of Matrix lights owners here.. (including myself).

[andyhud007]

Latest news:*

EFP - which is basically chassis control - we are getting a missing message on ODIS engineering for this.*

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Why they using ODIS-E for this? Firmware updates?

Did you fix the missing message? Means there is another module that needs to be sending something to Module 74.

[Tezargh]

What about from UK? We drive on the same side... plenty of Matrix lights owners here.. (including myself).I'll ask him when he gets back in to work which should be in about 4 hours (currently 6am here) Im crossing all my fingers and toes that he says it should be ok as long as it's from a right hand drive car...

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[Tezargh]

Why they using ODIS-E for this? Firmware updates?

Did you fix the missing message? Means there is another module that needs to be sending something to Module 74.I'll find out and get back to you about that in a few hours

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[andyhud007]

I'll find out and get back to you about that in a few hours

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Hey should be able to use GFF in ODIS-S to find out the missing message.

[andyhud007]

I'll ask him when he gets back in to work which should be in about 4 hours (currently 6am here) Im crossing all my fingers and toes that he says it should be ok as long as it's from a right hand drive car...

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Cool, let me know.

[Tezargh]

I'll ask him when he gets back in to work which should be in about 4 hours (currently 6am here) Im crossing all my fingers and toes that he says it should be ok as long as it's from a right hand drive car...

Sent from my SM-G935F using TapatalkIs it possible to copy your code as a test?

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[Tezargh]

Is it possible to copy your code as a test?

Sent from my SM-G935F using TapatalkI mean vin#

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[Tezargh]

I need someone's vin that has rhd q7 that has matrix lights, assistance package adaptive cruise control, no air suspension and without rear steering axle. Please help all I need is vin

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[andyhud007]

I need someone's vin that has rhd q7 that has matrix lights, assistance package adaptive cruise control, no air suspension and without rear steering axle. Please help all I need is vin

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[Tezargh]

I'll send you some

Sent from my SM-G928F using TapatalkYour the best thank you Andy!

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[spyderboyant]

Hey mate,

working now? What was it?

[spyderboyant]

Which Module is throwing this error? Whatever it is, it needs to be set to support matrix headlights or it needs a "dataset" for Matrix Headlights.

[Tezargh]

They think it's a sensor missing from the front axle

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[spyderboyant]

They think it's a sensor missing from the front axle

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Have they figured it out yet? They should be able to find that via the wiring diagrams....

[spyderboyant]

@Tezargh,

What did you end up paying to get those massage/ventilated seats and shipping? I am pretty keen. Its amazing as most seat parts are now replaceable but its obviously cheaper to get some second hand ones and the new AC controller for the vent control

[Tezargh]

@Tezargh,

What did you end up paying to get those massage/ventilated seats and shipping? I am pretty keen. Its amazing as most seat parts are now replaceable but its obviously cheaper to get some second hand ones and the new AC controller for the vent control2.5k for seats (2 front and middle row seats included) 2k for shipping roughly, it was a giant crate

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[spyderboyant]

2.5k for seats (2 front and middle row seats included) 2k for shipping roughly, it was a giant crate

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Wow. And then you had to buy the new controllers for the ventilation as well. Second row heated I take it? You have 4 zone AC?

So, have they figured out the last error yet??

[Tezargh]

Wow. And then you had to buy the new controllers for the ventilation as well. Second row heated I take it? You have 4 zone AC?

So, have they figured out the last error yet??Nope it came with the ac controller. They are working on the errors and sensor today so hopefully will have an answer by tomorrow

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Oh and no the 2nd row didn't have heating even though it stated it on there website that they were but they just refunded me some money back due to their error, I would have not bought the 2nd row seats had I known but then again these were perforated and my originals weren't so wouldn't have matched the front seats

[spyderboyant]

Hey,

Whats the update for the end of this week? Did they get the Matrix light error sorted?

[Tezargh]

It works! They got the lights and everything to work, check out video
https://www.facebook.com/EuroCarUpgrades/videos/1025503460934351/

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[AlisterB]

Some good news finally - that's awesome to hear!

So when are you picking it up Tezargh?

It'd be good to get a sense for what each of the upgrades/retrofits has cost, including parts cost, shipping and installation labour so that people who have interest in some of these things have a sense for costings. Can you provide some indication Tezargh?

[Tezargh]

I want him to test the car for at least a few days to make sure no errors pop up and then I'll have the car sent back.

I will get a list of bits and pieces and let you know but at the same time I'm afraid to calculate it...

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[spyderboyant]

Martin looked tired ;-) I love the... "I will fit anything but not Matrix" headlights LOL

What was the last sensor related error? You went from standard Bi-xenon to LED Matrix correct?. I have standard LED and am going to put in the Matrix headlights but not Etron. I will test them on top of the existing ones for errors.

Re LHD and RHD variants, it has nothing to do with the Matrix high beam as its to do with the low beams and them having LHD or RHD "physical" cutoffs to stop blinding on coming traffic. Its funny with the new Q7 that they didn't use the 4M1 for LHD and the 4M2 for RHD codes. Most probably not wanting people to retrofit them I guess.

For those out there wanting to install Etron signature lights, you need new headlight controllers unless you have 2016+ headlights. You also need to get new headlights that have the two pins from the external headlight plug to the headlight controller through the headlight housing. Unfortunately if your headlight is missing these two wires you will need to (a) pull your headlight apart to add them - very difficult (b) drill a hole through the cover for the headlight controller and manually add them. Seal the hole with silicon. Re coding, I don't know but its interesting that Tezargh's installer needed some Russians to do it remotely. Makes me think it could be a dataset thing or an adaption channel that needs a security code?!??!. I suppose someone that has an etron would be able to provide the adaption channels and coding for J519 and the headlight controller that drives the Etrons.

[AlisterB]

Any update on those costings Tezargh?

Loving being back in the Q7?

[spyderboyant]

For those interested in the Q7 Matrix upgrade, you definitely need "additional" LWR (Headlight Auto-levelling sensors) on the front axles. It appears that for LED and the standard lights (xenon), Audi only install the auto-levelling sensors on the rear axle. What confused me was that the PR codes on an LED headlight car and a Matrix LED headlight car are the SAME (FAMILY:LWR / PR-8Q3: Automatic headlight range adjustment dynamic (self-adjusting while driving)). This made me assume that I had the front sensors. so to be certain, I accessed J393 and found that I DIDN'T have the 3 wires for the front auto-levelling sensor.. damn. Good thing is, the sensor is the same as the A4 (8W) one so they are readily available on ebay germany. Part 4M0 907 504 A => which is now superseded to the specific Q7 4M left and right hand side ones: 4M0 941 285 C (left side) & 4M0 941 286 C (right side). I think 4M0 907 504 A was only every LEFT hand side... So if you have air-suspension, you will need specific right hand side sensors!

referring to the wiring diagrams, the auto-levelling sensors either go back to the J393 BCM2 (Body control Module 2) in the boot (left hand side under rear fuse box) or if you have air-suspension they run back to J774 Chassis control unit. This is where it gets interesting, with standard suspension, you only need a rear left hand side sensor and a front left hand side sensor (so 2 sensors in total). If you have air-suspension, then you need four sensors, one for every wheel arch...

From a coding point of view, it appears you need to code the J393 for the additional front sensor(s) [or J774 if you have air suspension], the front camera A5 and finally J519 (BCM1) which controls the headlights. From a calibration point of view, as soon as you configure A5 for Matrix lights it will want to be calibrated. This can be done with the calibration board schematics that are avaialble on the forum. Then J519 needs to be calibrated which requires specialist calibration kit found at the dealers workshop.

Also remember, when getting Matrix Headlights, make sure you get either LHD or RHD versions. They are NOT THE SAME. The low beam cut-off is different on both. As I have posted earlier, the lights unfortunately share the same neutral 4M0 part number. Its the final letter that determines whether they are LHD or RHD versions... I don't know why there is a different versoin for PHEV cars as I thought all electronics were still 12V? For non-etron, you want the PR-0K0 version of the headlight as well.

Here are some part numbers with associated PR codes:

4m0 941 783 - Left Headlight (PR-AV1 + 0K0,0K4) ** Driving on RIGHT
4m0 941 783 C - Left Headlight (PR-AV1 + 0K3) ** Driving on RIGHT
4m0 941 783 A - Left Headlight (PR-AV0 + 0K0, 0K4) ** Driving on LEFT
4m0 941 783 D - Left Headlight (PR-AV0 + 0K3) ** Driving on LEFT


4m0 941 784 - Right Headlight (PR-AV1 + 0K0,0K4)
4m0 941 784 C - Right Headlight (PR-AV1 + 0K3)
4m0 941 784 A - Right Headlight (PR-AV0 + 0K0, 0K4)
4m0 941 784 D - Right Headlight (PR-AV0 + 0K3)


Family: LRV (driving on the left/on the right)
PR-AV0 - Driving on the LEFT
PR-Av1 - Driving on the RIGHT


Family: ASY (Alternative drive system)
PR-0K0 - Without alternative drive system
PR-0K3 - Hybrid propulstion system PHEV
PR-0K4 - Hybrid propulsion system MHEV


Family: HSW (Headlamps)
PR-8IT - LED headlamps


Family: LIA (Light control systems)
PR-8G4 - Matrix beam

[AlisterB]

Good info there spyderboyant.

[spyderboyant]

Hey Tezargh,

You have factory fitted ambient lighting (PR-QQ2) in your Q7? On the individual colour settings, do you have purple as a selectable colour on the far left? I have retrofitted but don't appear to have the same colour palette as the cars in the UK/Europe.

cheers
A

[booba]

I have qq2 factory in Australia, i have purple.

[spyderboyant]

I have qq2 factory in Australia, i have purple.

Do you have VCDS? Can you PM your full scan and also admap captures for 5F and 09?

[booba]

Hi Mate, sorry for late reply. i only have vag can pro, i can send you a scan if that helps. not sure how i can do admap captures. i have also been busy retrofitting bang and olufsen, did it completely to factory spec with all wiring done properly under the carpet, along proper channels and pinned properly. it all works great :)


Do you have VCDS? Can you PM your full scan and also admap captures for 5F and 09?

[spyderboyant]

Hi Mate, sorry for late reply. i only have vag can pro, i can send you a scan if that helps. not sure how i can do admap captures. i have also been busy retrofitting bang and olufsen, did it completely to factory spec with all wiring done properly under the carpet, along proper channels and pinned properly. it all works great :)

That would be great. B&O...nice. Did you have BOSE or standard MIB2 amp? If standard MIB2 thats quite a bit of wiring... I went from Standard to BOSE. Any need to update dataset settings on 5F?

[booba]

Ok, I'll go out tomorrow and do some scans etc.

I had factory Bose, purchased all the components overseas and the seller provided full Q7 main loom and door wiring. I also purchased a dash loom from a B&O car. I removed all the wiring and we ran it all through the car via the factory channels. We didn't reuse any bose wiring as it would have just been too much of a pita to keep half of it and run others as b&o wiring was thicker.

We also ran a 8mm power from the same main fuse at the battery that runs factory b&o and added the 50amp fuse as per factory, i got the fuse and holder from donor loom. fortunately the door wiring from donor car supported pr-qq2 so we just swapped them over and repinned the rear door lock connectors as australian cars don't have safelock and donor car had it.

As for 5f, i don't believe that it was required. I powered on after wiring and the amp just started working although cp was only allowing the left side and no sub to operated. My contact in poland removed cp and all was good. I didn't get any dataset issues before he removed cp, i reckon this is because i already had bose.


It was a big job and thanks to my mate gerard who help out greatly.


That would be great. B&O...nice. Did you have BOSE or standard MIB2 amp? If standard MIB2 thats quite a bit of wiring... I went from Standard to BOSE. Any need to update dataset settings on 5F?

[spyderboyant]

Wow, big job. You would have had to pull our seats and dash to get the OEM loom into the car?? As BOSE is in the back of the car I would have thought you would have used the majority of the existing wiring as B&O only adds a couple more speakers. I've half done BOSE and was trying to use the cabling to the MIB2 with a jumper cable I made to take the speaker cables from the MIB2. It is painful so thinking I'll just run new cables direct from the doors and front of car to the amp... lots of cloth tape BUT at least I know and can test the installation a speaker at a time. Will need to cut the headliner for the top rear surround speakers but there are marks in the liner where they must press the holes out for B&O and BOSE at the factory that makes the headliners.

Anyway, nice one. I'll use my VCP this morning and see whether I can find where the dataset info for the different controllers turns up.

Is the sound that much better with B&O than BOSE? I suppose you can now sell your BOSE with full loom which would be appealing for retrofitters... Did you take pictures as you went?

[booba]

1st and second row seats removed, part of the rear centre console to access rear part of carpet so it could be folded up. we used all b&o wiring as wire sizes were different. the 4 additional speakers are two in the roof and 1 each in the rear doors. how are you planning to run the cables? the factory wires run up over left wheel down to just in front of 2nd row, from there it either goes straight ahead for front left speakers, centre and mic or turns right for the right b pillar and right front. the diag green/purple wire also goes up to the front via the right. i used 4 x 25m tesa cloth tape. you can get the bose and b&o grills as spare parts and the clamping washers. I am just about to order the b&o ones as roof has extra speaker that won't fit into bose cutout.

the sound is leaps and bounds over bose, i did a side by side comparison between mine and my mate gerards who pretty much did the trim removal, seat removal for me. i don't have the factory loom as it isn't possible to cut that out of the main loom without a lot of effort and too high risk to damage other wires. I don't have many pictures apart from one with the whole car apart. if you need any specific information on running of wires etc then happy to discuss and help with pinning them through doors etc.






Wow, big job. You would have had to pull our seats and dash to get the OEM loom into the car?? As BOSE is in the back of the car I would have thought you would have used the majority of the existing wiring as B&O only adds a couple more speakers. I've half done BOSE and was trying to use the cabling to the MIB2 with a jumper cable I made to take the speaker cables from the MIB2. It is painful so thinking I'll just run new cables direct from the doors and front of car to the amp... lots of cloth tape BUT at least I know and can test the installation a speaker at a time. Will need to cut the headliner for the top rear surround speakers but there are marks in the liner where they must press the holes out for B&O and BOSE at the factory that makes the headliners.

Anyway, nice one. I'll use my VCP this morning and see whether I can find where the dataset info for the different controllers turns up.

Is the sound that much better with B&O than BOSE? I suppose you can now sell your BOSE with full loom which would be appealing for retrofitters... Did you take pictures as you went?

[andyhud007]

Great work Booba! B&O factory looms in.. wow , credit!

As Spyder said.. did you have to change Datasets on B&O amp etc? What about coding to 5F etc? Did you do it all yourself comparing against a factory B&O Q7?

Cheers!

Andy

[booba]

Hey Andy, yeah i had to cut open a loom that i got from the motherland to carefully extract all the b&o cabling, fortunately i already had bose so most bus was already in the back and the other wire was the diagnostics purple/green wire. I got access to this from the original bose connection. I have to give credit to my mate gerard who did the trim removal and did the b&o grill extraction from the donor car. There is a factory method of renewing the grills by drilling them out and then using a 3.5mm screw.

As for the dataset, i don't believe that i needed them as i switched on the car right after i got all speakers hooked up and the system started working immediately with no errors in 5f. i did only have the left speakers working due to CP, this was resolved once CP was removed. I would imagine that datasets are required if going from a non bose audio vehicle.


Great work Booba! B&O factory looms in.. wow , credit!

As Spyder said.. did you have to change Datasets on B&O amp etc? What about coding to 5F etc? Did you do it all yourself comparing against a factory B&O Q7?

Cheers!

Andy

[spyderboyant]

Hey Andy, yeah i had to cut open a loom that i got from the motherland to carefully extract all the b&o cabling, fortunately i already had bose so most bus was already in the back and the other wire was the diagnostics purple/green wire. I got access to this from the original bose connection. I have to give credit to my mate gerard who did the trim removal and did the b&o grill extraction from the donor car. There is a factory method of renewing the grills by drilling them out and then using a 3.5mm screw.

As for the dataset, i don't believe that i needed them as i switched on the car right after i got all speakers hooked up and the system started working immediately with no errors in 5f. i did only have the left speakers working due to CP, this was resolved once CP was removed. I would imagine that datasets are required if going from a non bose audio vehicle.


Hey Booba,

you wouldnt happen to have matrix lights and steel springs (ie no air suspension) would you? Going to retrofit as well but want to double check the coding for J519 [BCM1] and J393 [BCM2]

On a side note, I had to update my dataset in J519 to get the correct menu's for ambient lighting. All working now thanks to VCP... Strange that there is a default setting on J519 which isn't compatible with q7.

cheers
A

[booba]

Hey mate, that's good news on the ambient lighting. sorry, i have air suspension and matrix. Was ambient lighting hard to retrofit? how many parts needed changing and were most of the light modules able to be purchased separately? I have ambient but i have a mate who has considered it for a while.

These are the options that i have, bose now b&o :)

Head-Up Display
Ambient Lighting Package
Sports Frt Seats-Valcona Lthr
S Line Pk Matrix / 21' 5-Arm
All Wheel Steering
Adaptive Air Suspension
Tow Bar
Panoramic Glass Roof
Sunblinds Manual
Heated Front & Rear Seats
Privacy Glass
Inlays-Sono/Oak Grey
Black Headlining
BOSE 3D Surround Sound
Audi Smart Tablet x 2
Phone Box Light
Assistance Package w/ACC
4-Zone Climate Control





Hey Booba,

you wouldnt happen to have matrix lights and steel springs (ie no air suspension) would you? Going to retrofit as well but want to double check the coding for J519 [BCM1] and J393 [BCM2]

On a side note, I had to update my dataset in J519 to get the correct menu's for ambient lighting. All working now thanks to VCP... Strange that there is a default setting on J519 which isn't compatible with q7.

cheers
A

[spyderboyant]

Maaate,

thats quite a spec'd up car. Did you order it new or did you get is second hand? You rarely see rear heated seats or sublinds or all wheel steering. I dont know how you would get on in BNE with heated seats ;-)

Damn, I have 20+ q7 4M VCDS scans and only one, a retrofit, with Matrix and steel springs!

I wasn't going to go down the ambient lighting path but Andy suggested it as he likes it. There is quite a bit of work and lots of pieces. The biggest PITA is the fact you cannot get the ambient background strips for the doors (and the wiring diagrams and factory info are cryptic - but I sorted all that out now).You need to purchase new doors cards $$$. Having said that I have shaped some perspex rods in their place and they work fine (not as good as the original however). I have the silver top/dark silver bottom trim and have just got some brushed aluminium trim so will be selling quite a bit of the ambient lighting with the silver finish so if your mate is interested let me know. He will need:

a. Drivers vent with light strip. RHD variant
b. passenger AC vent with light strip - expensive. RHD variant (I bought a LHD ambient from ebay.de and RHD standard LED ebay.co.uk and swapped the LEDs) *** Note LEDs are internally numbered. You need the correct ones for J519 to send colour info to them! They are on a LIN BUS
c. Light strips for side of centre console (they fit into existing centre console). Need to purchase
d) top centre console with light strip and RGB LED. RHD variant required (I'll be selling one of these - silver colour)
e) back light strip for back of centre console (I'll be selling this with above)
f) exit warning door panels (x4) << If you have exit warning/side assist you already have the correct ones.
g) 4 x LEDs for exit warning strip (I'll be selling 2 of these)
h) 4 x RGB LEDs for door ambient/background lighting (I'll be selling 4)
i) 4 x makeshift perspex rods to go into door for above LEDs (I'll be selling 4 of these)
J) Vag Can Pro (VCP) to download updates to dataset to J519 to instuct 5F on ambient light settings for Q7 4M (Yes J519 tells 5F over CAN). Once I updated my dataset on J519 the menu changed in 5F to the correct one!

then the looms..... Power for lights and also LIN bus come from J519 at bottom of passengar a-pillar. This needs to be run around car.. since you did B&O it shouldnt be that difficult.

[Milesunder]

Thinking about it I might have a scan from a 65 plate Passat Alltrack that had the VW equivalent matrix led headlights. Would this help?

[andyhud007]

Thinking about it I might have a scan from a 65 plate Passat Alltrack that had the VW equivalent matrix led headlights. Would this help?Thanks mate! Yes please. That would really help.

Cheers.

Andy.

[Milesunder]

Cool, how do I get it over to you?

[booba]

I bought it "ex demo" mid 2016, it wasn't an actual demo as it was the dealer principles car. sunblinds are especially rare, i haven't seen them on any other q7. Heated seats are quite good in BNE for the colder days, you wouldn't think it but i love them.

Thanks for the great info on the ambient lighting, i will pass this onto a mate unless he reads this on here as he may be interested.


Maaate,

thats quite a spec'd up car. Did you order it new or did you get is second hand? You rarely see rear heated seats or sublinds or all wheel steering. I dont know how you would get on in BNE with heated seats ;-)

Damn, I have 20+ q7 4M VCDS scans and only one, a retrofit, with Matrix and steel springs!

I wasn't going to go down the ambient lighting path but Andy suggested it as he likes it. There is quite a bit of work and lots of pieces. The biggest PITA is the fact you cannot get the ambient background strips for the doors (and the wiring diagrams and factory info are cryptic - but I sorted all that out now).You need to purchase new doors cards $$$. Having said that I have shaped some perspex rods in their place and they work fine (not as good as the original however). I have the silver top/dark silver bottom trim and have just got some brushed aluminium trim so will be selling quite a bit of the ambient lighting with the silver finish so if your mate is interested let me know. He will need:

a. Drivers vent with light strip. RHD variant
b. passenger AC vent with light strip - expensive. RHD variant (I bought a LHD ambient from ebay.de and RHD standard LED ebay.co.uk and swapped the LEDs) *** Note LEDs are internally numbered. You need the correct ones for J519 to send colour info to them! They are on a LIN BUS
c. Light strips for side of centre console (they fit into existing centre console). Need to purchase
d) top centre console with light strip and RGB LED. RHD variant required (I'll be selling one of these - silver colour)
e) back light strip for back of centre console (I'll be selling this with above)
f) exit warning door panels (x4) << If you have exit warning/side assist you already have the correct ones.
g) 4 x LEDs for exit warning strip (I'll be selling 2 of these)
h) 4 x RGB LEDs for door ambient/background lighting (I'll be selling 4)
i) 4 x makeshift perspex rods to go into door for above LEDs (I'll be selling 4 of these)
J) Vag Can Pro (VCP) to download updates to dataset to J519 to instuct 5F on ambient light settings for Q7 4M (Yes J519 tells 5F over CAN). Once I updated my dataset on J519 the menu changed in 5F to the correct one!

then the looms..... Power for lights and also LIN bus come from J519 at bottom of passengar a-pillar. This needs to be run around car.. since you did B&O it shouldnt be that difficult.

[spyderboyant]

I bought it "ex demo" mid 2016, it wasn't an actual demo as it was the dealer principles car. sunblinds are especially rare, i haven't seen them on any other q7. Heated seats are quite good in BNE for the colder days, you wouldn't think it but i love them.

Thanks for the great info on the ambient lighting, i will pass this onto a mate unless he reads this on here as he may be interested.

No worries. That was a cool spec'd car. I purchased mine May 2016 and was an ex-dealer car also with 4-zone AC, Audi tablets (pretty rare), LED lights, 200Kw, assistance package. Was just missing ambient lighting, Bose and Matrix lights.

I have retrofitted:
1) ambient lighting now but need to install the illuminated door sills (I have some of these to sell as well ;-) ) and door handle apron lighting
2) Phone Box (wireless charging)
3) BOSE - 50% - going to re-run cabling as was using the standard cabling going to MBI2 but hard to troubleshoot. Need to remove headliner and cut holes for speaker grilles and install the grilles.
4) chipped - 240Kw


To be done:
1) Night Vision (have parts. Controller installed under passenger seat. Just need to install camera - will do with Matrix Lights).
2) Matrix Lights (have lights, wiring done except for front sensor to J393 - have parts and front left LWR sensor installed)
3) HUD (have dash and HUD)
4) Soft close doors. (have parts - need to install)


Would love:
Massage seats with venting... but where do you stop. Maybe B&O ;-)

[booba]

Nice, i want to do night vision, i was going to purchase the controller and camera of ebay and maybe do it at some point, wiring for can bus, power and to the wrong doesn't look that hard. Forgot to mention mine was the 200kw as the Virtual Cockpit was a must have :)

My todo right now is pretty much soft close, i have all the parts, just need to do it at some point.






No worries. That was a cool spec'd car. I purchased mine May 2016 and was an ex-dealer car also with 4-zone AC, Audi tablets (pretty rare), LED lights, 200Kw, assistance package. Was just missing ambient lighting, Bose and Matrix lights.

I have retrofitted:
1) ambient lighting now but need to install the illuminated door sills (I have some of these to sell as well ;-) ) and door handle apron lighting
2) Phone Box (wireless charging)
3) BOSE - 50% - going to re-run cabling as was using the standard cabling going to MBI2 but hard to troubleshoot. Need to remove headliner and cut holes for speaker grilles and install the grilles.
4) chipped - 240Kw


To be done:
1) Night Vision (have parts. Controller installed under passenger seat. Just need to install camera - will do with Matrix Lights).
2) Matrix Lights (have lights, wiring done except for front sensor to J393 - have parts and front left LWR sensor installed)
3) HUD (have dash and HUD)
4) Soft close doors. (have parts - need to install)


Would love:
Massage seats with venting... but where do you stop. Maybe B&O ;-)

[anemeth]

No worries. That was a cool spec'd car. I purchased mine May 2016 and was an ex-dealer car also with 4-zone AC, Audi tablets (pretty rare), LED lights, 200Kw, assistance package. Was just missing ambient lighting, Bose and Matrix lights.

I have retrofitted:
1) ambient lighting now but need to install the illuminated door sills (I have some of these to sell as well ;-) ) and door handle apron lighting
2) Phone Box (wireless charging)
3) BOSE - 50% - going to re-run cabling as was using the standard cabling going to MBI2 but hard to troubleshoot. Need to remove headliner and cut holes for speaker grilles and install the grilles.
4) chipped - 240Kw


To be done:
1) Night Vision (have parts. Controller installed under passenger seat. Just need to install camera - will do with Matrix Lights).
2) Matrix Lights (have lights, wiring done except for front sensor to J393 - have parts and front left LWR sensor installed)
3) HUD (have dash and HUD)
4) Soft close doors. (have parts - need to install)


Would love:
Massage seats with venting... but where do you stop. Maybe B&O ;-)

Just a note on HUD. As far as I know you need new windscreen glass as well. The HUD has special windscreen glass, also for install the HUD the windscreen should be taken out as per Elsawin.

[andyhud007]

Just a note on HUD. As far as I know you need new windscreen glass as well. The HUD has special windscreen glass, also for install the HUD the windscreen should be taken out as per Elsawin.

You are correct sir.

[spyderboyant]

Just a note on HUD. As far as I know you need new windscreen glass as well. The HUD has special windscreen glass, also for install the HUD the windscreen should be taken out as per Elsawin.

I know... ;-) HUD can be installed (and needs to be installed) by removing the dashpanel as you need to install its brackets and the mounting points underneath dash. Myabe my windscreen gets cracked and gets replaced with insurance ;-)
.
On NV, you need some cat6 twisted pair (a pair) and run from Virtual Cockpit to controller underneath passenger seat. Twisted pair has same characteristics as flexRay cable... I just need to run the loom for front left sensor to J393 prior to installing Matrix at which time I will install NV.

[gmchan]

Hi spyderboyant,

Will be very interested in all of the ambient lighting parts that you have available. We should catch up as I'm in Sydney as well.
I'm Gerard who helped Booba with his BO installation.


Maaate,

thats quite a spec'd up car. Did you order it new or did you get is second hand? You rarely see rear heated seats or sublinds or all wheel steering. I dont know how you would get on in BNE with heated seats ;-)

Damn, I have 20+ q7 4M VCDS scans and only one, a retrofit, with Matrix and steel springs!

I wasn't going to go down the ambient lighting path but Andy suggested it as he likes it. There is quite a bit of work and lots of pieces. The biggest PITA is the fact you cannot get the ambient background strips for the doors (and the wiring diagrams and factory info are cryptic - but I sorted all that out now).You need to purchase new doors cards $$$. Having said that I have shaped some perspex rods in their place and they work fine (not as good as the original however). I have the silver top/dark silver bottom trim and have just got some brushed aluminium trim so will be selling quite a bit of the ambient lighting with the silver finish so if your mate is interested let me know. He will need:

a. Drivers vent with light strip. RHD variant
b. passenger AC vent with light strip - expensive. RHD variant (I bought a LHD ambient from ebay.de and RHD standard LED ebay.co.uk and swapped the LEDs) *** Note LEDs are internally numbered. You need the correct ones for J519 to send colour info to them! They are on a LIN BUS
c. Light strips for side of centre console (they fit into existing centre console). Need to purchase
d) top centre console with light strip and RGB LED. RHD variant required (I'll be selling one of these - silver colour)
e) back light strip for back of centre console (I'll be selling this with above)
f) exit warning door panels (x4) << If you have exit warning/side assist you already have the correct ones.
g) 4 x LEDs for exit warning strip (I'll be selling 2 of these)
h) 4 x RGB LEDs for door ambient/background lighting (I'll be selling 4)
i) 4 x makeshift perspex rods to go into door for above LEDs (I'll be selling 4 of these)
J) Vag Can Pro (VCP) to download updates to dataset to J519 to instuct 5F on ambient light settings for Q7 4M (Yes J519 tells 5F over CAN). Once I updated my dataset on J519 the menu changed in 5F to the correct one!

then the looms..... Power for lights and also LIN bus come from J519 at bottom of passengar a-pillar. This needs to be run around car.. since you did B&O it shouldnt be that difficult.

[spyderboyant]

No worries. I'll PM you with the list of what I have.

[spyderboyant]

For those interested in this upgrade and with standard suspension. The following two bytes need changing (after installing front left level sensor)

J393: Byte17: Bit 0-1: sensor_headlight_range_control_installed: [03] - front and rear (*other options [00] - no sensors [01] - front [02] - rear (LED and BiXenon default)

I can confirm that when I made the change to [02] without the front sensor installed I instantly get an "open circuit to front left level sensor" in J393

** Air suspension = [00] - no sensors (as information comes from J774 chassis control unit)

J519: Byte30: Bit 1-3: Chassis_sensor_config : [0C]=raw_chassis_values_bcm2_2FNS from [0A]=raw_chassis_values_bcm2_1FNS <<< change from 1 sensor to 2 with info coming from BCM2 = J393!

On air suspension cars the sensor information comes from the chassis control unit 774. J519 in this instance is coded with: [08]=raw_chassis_values

*Note: I note from the config from another car that had matrix lights retroffited (and I was told it worked without errors), did have J519 changed and the front left sensor installed but J393 still had [02] - Rear coded. This doesn't make sense to me and I'm going to code correctly with front and rear. J393 needs to have its coding changed to reflect that it has that additional sensor.

[darkyuk]

Ps considering massage seats which is apparently a 10k option but found it for 2k. Does anyone have them installed, keen to know if its worth buying or not



My 2017 S5 has the massage seats, I occasionally mess with them but most of the time forget that it even has them.

Andy

[spyderboyant]

I'm back onto my Matrix headlight retrofit. I currently have the following errors. Has anyone else tried the Matrix retrofit? Wondering whether there might be a "dataset" update required on J519 as I am getting an error on A5 talking of "false coding" for the headlights + basic settings (which makes sense). On J519 I also get a "received error" off the databus (which would be the direct Flexray from A5 to J519 I reckon". I think this is the error from A5 camera. I need to find out what this "false" coding error is... Looking closely I see that the databus errors are both for U1123...

Monday,13,August,2018,12:45:19:19583
VCDS Version: Release 18.2.1 (x64) Running on Windows 10 x64
Ross-Tech: Home (http://www.Ross-Tech.com)


Address A5: Frt Sens. Drv. Assist Labels: None
Control Module Part Number: 4M0 907 217 D HW: 4M0 907 217 A
Component and/or Version: BVS H12 0042
Software Coding: 0407030600000401024023A7C50000B4B0F0C020C080
Work Shop Code: WSC 00046 123 12345
ASAM Dataset: EV_BVSMLBevKOSTAAU736 002026 (AU73)
ROD: EV_BVSMLBevKOSTAAU736.rod
VCID: 2F2EDCBA7651333C8E-807A
4 Faults Found:


1123893 - Databus
U1123 00 [009] - Received Error Message
[LED_Feh_LM_R_03_LED_R_falsch_codiert]
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 123
Mileage: 39671 km
Date: 2018.08.13
Time: 12:36:28


Control Module temperature: 46 °C
Voltage terminal 15: 11.70 V


1123894 - Databus
U1123 00 [009] - Received Error Message
[LED_Feh_LM_L_03_LED_L_falsch_codiert]
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 123
Mileage: 39671 km
Date: 2018.08.13
Time: 12:36:28


Control Module temperature: 46 °C
Voltage terminal 15: 11.70 V


1123669 - Left Matrix High Beam
C1175 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 123
Mileage: 39671 km
Date: 2018.08.13
Time: 12:36:26


Control Module temperature: 45 °C
Voltage terminal 15: 11.70 V


1123670 - Right Matrix High Beam
C1176 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 123
Mileage: 39671 km
Date: 2018.08.13
Time: 12:36:26


Control Module temperature: 45 °C
Voltage terminal 15: 11.70 V


=================
J519

Monday,13,August,2018,12:40:32:19583
VCDS Version: Release 18.2.1 (x64) Running on Windows 10 x64
Ross-Tech: Home (http://www.Ross-Tech.com)


Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: None
Control Module Part Number: 8W0 907 063 AG HW: 8W0 907 063 G
Component and/or Version: BCM1 MLBevo H12 0228
Software Coding: 07501B43C12900CD010D57195B3F0CF9130331008000000000 00000060001A810A4501AB22B70A
Work Shop Code: WSC 31414 790 00001
ASAM Dataset: EV_BCM1BOSCHAU736 015005 (AU49)
ROD: EV_BCM1BOSCHAU736_015.rod
VCID: 004C4F069B4F7C4427-8054
2 Faults Found:


66881 - Databus
U1123 00 [009] - Received Error Message
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 123
Mileage: 39671 km
Date: 2018.08.13
Time: 12:33:45


average_Voltage_terminals: 11.60 V
Outside air temperature sensor-Resistance: 0.00 kOhm
Outside air temperature sensor-Outside air temperature on CAN: 19.50 °C
interior_temperature: 24.50 °C
Vehicle speed: 0.00 km/h
Terminal control-Terminal 75 status: On
Terminal control-Terminal 15 status signal: On
Terminal control-Terminal 15 via CAN: On
Terminal control-Term 75: qualification: OFF


66882 - Databus
U1123 00 [009] - Received Error Message
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 123
Mileage: 39671 km
Date: 2018.08.13
Time: 12:33:45


average_Voltage_terminals: 11.60 V
Outside air temperature sensor-Resistance: 0.00 kOhm
Outside air temperature sensor-Outside air temperature on CAN: 19.50 °C
interior_temperature: 24.50 °C
Vehicle speed: 0.00 km/h
Terminal control-Terminal 75 status: On
Terminal control-Terminal 15 status signal: On
Terminal control-Terminal 15 via CAN: On
Terminal control-Term 75: qualification: OFF

[spyderboyant]

Continuing, I have now realised the source of the errors are the high beam light controllers D6 and D7 (as seen below). These errors are thrown onto the bus and received by J519 and A5 camera and reported as "databus receive errors". I definitely now believe that this is a dataset issue between J519 and these controllers as my car has standard LED headlights and when talking to the matrix headlight controllers (came with the lights), it thinks it is talking to the standard LED ones (although the coding has been changed correctly) and the controllers are complaining. VCP have an option in the dataset update for J519 for LED_MXB.

Datasets are making retrofits harder and harder as this is how the same components can be used in multiple car chassis ...

Address D6: Light Ctrl Left 2 Labels: 7PP-941-592.clb
Control Module Part Number: 7PP 941 592 CA HW: 7PP 941 592 C
Component and/or Version: LED1L H09 2002
Software Coding:
Work Shop Code: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_LEDModLeftMELCOAU736 001004 (AU73)
ROD: EV_LEDModLeftMELCOAU736_VW37.rod
VCID: 197A026218D5CD838A-804C
1 Fault Found:


0019 - Headlamp Type
C119F 00 [009] - Implausible <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 123
Mileage: 39674 km
Date: 2018.08.15
Time: 10:25:18

Address D7: Light Ctrl Right 2 Labels: 7PP-941-592.clb
Control Module Part Number: 7PP 941 592 CA HW: 7PP 941 592 C
Component and/or Version: LED1R H09 2002
Software Coding:
Work Shop Code: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_LEDModRightMELCOAU736 001004 (AU73)
ROD: EV_LEDModLeftMELCOAU736_VW37.rod
VCID: 197A026218D5CD838A-804C
1 Fault Found:


0019 - Headlamp Type
C119F 00 [009] - Implausible <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 123
Mileage: 39674 km
Date: 2018.08.15
Time: 10:25:19

[Tezargh]

Im back!

Had issues with my account and have been away for work.

Love this bloody car and it's headlights, amazing.

Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk

[MariusV]

Hello Tezargh,

Did you upgraded you car\s headlights from xenon? Can you tell me which parts exactly necessary for upgrade to MATRIX? Also to ACC if you did that? What was the issue with fog lights? Why there was a problem with start lighting the fog lights?

[burakkose]

That's a lot of work. Well done!

Does the coding work for the '19 Q8 as well for matrix headlights & tails?

[Tezargh]

I need some help, my matrix daytime running lights are stuck in the dim mode (how they look when your headlights are turned on) and not going full brightness when headlights are off. Does anyone know where the coding is for that or better yet someone who has matrix lights by standard that can send me their scan?

Would be greatly appreciated