Ceramic Brake Pads?

[XsApollo]

So my pads need replacing and my Discs could probably do with replacing as well.
So upon searching to see wether i should stick with OE discs and pads i came across ceramic pads, never heard of them before.
I have 19inch RS6 wheels and they just get covered with brake dust after about a week, so thinking about ceramic for longer life and cleanliness :).

Apparently the braking feel is a lot different than normal pads.
I am probably going to go with Brembo discs and ATE ceramic pads.

Just wondering does anybody have them on the A6 and how they got on with them or any reason i shouldn't bother.

Cheers

[Gazwould]

Brembo with EBC Redstuff ceramic pads .

The ATE ceramics don't offer a performance advantage whereas Redstuff does as well as low dust .

[moochin]

Will that kind of set up out brake a standard setup, I'm assuming the brembo discs aren't ceramic. How much would it cost for this set-up?

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[MarkTM]

I've been using Akebono pads on my profile car for years, with ss brake lines it makes an enormous difference to brake feel/fade and a huge difference to brake dust....they just won't give you that initial 'bite' of OEM.

Weirdly they are made in the UK but I have to buy them from the USA...Red stuff will do the same but will cost you a bit more....and you do want those red pad backs really! :)

reviews here:

Amazon.com: Akebono EUR1111 EURO Ultra-Premium Ceramic Brake Pad Set: Automotive (http://www.amazon.com/Akebono-EUR1111-Ultra-Premium-Ceramic-Brake/dp/B0019HYMLQ)

[XsApollo]

Ok just when i thought i had my mind made up :D
No worries with Ceramic then?

I was looking at EBC but there are too many complaints on the net about them so i think i will avoid.

Also I was looking at Akebono pads too but couldnt see any this side of the water, how long do they take to ship from the states?
All positive reviews on them everywhere.


And i changed my mind about the brembo discs since i posted this :D

I can get ATE discs here for a good bit cheaper than the Brembos, i think i will go with ATE all around, Discs, ceramic Pads and the Calipers on the A6 are ATE ? so a full house.

Thanks for the replies.

[XsApollo]

Will that kind of set up out brake a standard setup, I'm assuming the brembo discs aren't ceramic. How much would it cost for this set-up?

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Just the pads are ceramic. Discs are standard.
Pads are a bit more expensive but last longer apparently.
i presume you could just swap out pads, I'm only looking at discs because mine are worn.

[zollaf]

what are people saying about the ebc pads then. i know people who do moan about them because you need to get some heat in them for them to work properly, but when they work they work well.

[Gazwould]

I find them no different cold than oe .

Redstuff have updated the formation and early reviews are poor.

I've got them on two cars front and rear and fronts on my fathers car so that's 20 individual pads without any disappointment whatever , for the road I just wouldn't use anything else .

I also know of satisfied owners of Audi B8 A4 3.0 tdi and RS3 .

[XsApollo]

I didn't read every detail about the EBC pads, just that every thread i was reading about them there were negative posts in them.

[rowdy-999]

EBC pad material can come away from the backing plate. I've had this happen, but it was after some serious track use.

[Gazwould]

Here's the reason .

http://www.urotuned.com/EBC_Redstuff_scale.jpg

20 pad material still attached to backing plates , minimum 3 years old .

[rowdy-999]

Here's the reason .

http://www.urotuned.com/EBC_Redstuff_scale.jpg

20 pad material still attached to backing plates , minimum 3 years old .

I used yellow and blue.
I'm not saying there is anything wrong with EBC pads. They offer good value for money.

[XsApollo]

Well finally got around to fitting these.
I went with Ate Discs and pads.
Have only done the fronts as i can't do the rears myself, will be getting them done in the next week or 2.
The discs have a nice coating all over which i presume will prevent rust forming on them.

After reading peoples experience of ceramic pads i was thinking they would be totally different to regular but they aren't.
I think the pedal is a bit stiffer and the initial bite isn't as aggressive when going at slow speeds around town which i like, if you press harder they will bite.
The faster your going the better they feel.
And they are nice and quiet.

So yea I'm happy, if they are cleaner and last twice as long then its a no brainer.

[Gazwould]

Most coatings are a token gesture and rust , 2 days before they're sprayed with Hammerite smooth , nearly 3 years later , wot no rust .

[MarkTM]

Well finally got around to fitting these.
I went with Ate Discs and pads.
Have only done the fronts as i can't do the rears myself, will be getting them done in the next week or 2.
The discs have a nice coating all over which i presume will prevent rust forming on them.

After reading peoples experience of ceramic pads i was thinking they would be totally different to regular but they aren't.
I think the pedal is a bit stiffer and the initial bite isn't as aggressive when going at slow speeds around town which i like, if you press harder they will bite.
The faster your going the better they feel.
And they are nice and quiet.

So yea I'm happy, if they are cleaner and last twice as long then its a no brainer.

Will be even better with SS brake lines, be a good chap and share details of your car, where you purchased from, part no's and cost please:confused:

This listing says they will fit an 07 3.0 quattro estate but not my 07 3.0 quattro saloon! I think they will of course.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ATE-Ceramic-brake-pads-with-warning-contact-Audi-A6-C5-and-C6-Avant-front-new-/291666564415

[XsApollo]

Hey,
My car is 2010 2.0TDI 170 S-Line .
You need the PR numbers for the brakes on your car, they are on a sticker in the spare wheel well.
PR number for the front brakes on mine are 1LG and rear 1KD and of course they are twice the price of the other sizes that are on the A6 :P

I bought the discs and pads on EuroCarParts and they cost £100 for Pads and £100 for discs with a 20% discount code.

Oh and the Pads you linked says they don't fit mine either.

Cheers

[Novica]

Hey,
My car is 2010 2.0TDI 170 S-Line .
You need the PR numbers for the brakes on your car, they are on a sticker in the spare wheel well.
PR number for the front brakes on mine are 1LG and rear 1KD and of course they are twice the price of the other sizes that are on the A6 :P

I bought the discs and pads on EuroCarParts and they cost £100 for Pads and £100 for discs with a 20% discount code.

Oh and the Pads you linked says they don't fit mine either.

Cheers

Hi XsAppolo,

I just want to hear from you after some time how satisfy are you with ceramic pads?

It is first time that I have been proposed by my seller this kind of pads and I am looking for some feedback especially on our Audi A6.

Pleased to hear your experience till now with ceramic pads

Novak

[Gazwould]

Much less brake dust , what's not to like .

http://onpasture.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Just-Do-It.jpg

[Novica]

Thanks Gazwould,

I have no clue about this ceramic pads. I was thinking that they require ceramic rotors as well. Then, at first moment, when seller told me that they last much longer I thought that they will eat my rotors because they are steel made.

I have intention to put them on rotors which are still good (no need replacement), any fear about excess rotor's consumption?

[Gazwould]

None , very kind to them .

[XsApollo]

Hi XsAppolo,

I just want to hear from you after some time how satisfy are you with ceramic pads?

It is first time that I have been proposed by my seller this kind of pads and I am looking for some feedback especially on our Audi A6.

Pleased to hear your experience till now with ceramic pads

Novak

Hey Novak,

Yea I am happy with the pads.
They are definatley cleaner, I would say the fronts wheels stay as clean as the rear wheels.
They feel smoother and quieter.
When I drive the wife's car I can hear the brakes working but with these it's nice quiet and smooth.

The Braking.
It's like the stopping power builds up when braking from speed, instead of grabbing straight away.

I was on a road trip across Europe a couple of weeks ago which included driving across Germany and back and they performed spot on on the autobahn and I wasn't hanging around either :-P

I could be over analysing but the main things are the smoothness and how quiet they are.

They will be going on all my cars from now on.

[Novica]

Many thanks XsApollo, I appreciate your experiance and it means a lot to me (especially that you made trip to Germany).

I think that I will go for this ceramic pads when time comes for change.

[Luckytom]

Evening all, I'm trying to get some Akebono pads for my A5 3.0tdi Quattro sportback and narrowed it down to
front EUR1322
Rear EUR1018
I can get both for about $130 but they want $150 postage!!
Does anyone in the uk do them

[MarkTM]

Who's 'they'?

And the answer is no, no one in the UK does, so I get my brother to bring them over from the US.

[Luckytom]

Dang!!! Thanks For the reply Mark. That's a blow, had my heart set on them. Green stuffs it is then :-/

[Gazwould]

Dang!!! Thanks For the reply Mark. That's a blow, had my heart set on them. Green stuffs it is then :-/


Greenstuff ! Redstuff are ceramic .

[zollaf]

redstuff need to be almost glowing to work, so great for track but not so great for road. yellowstuff is where its at, or trw dtec are also really good for the money and low dust.

[Gazwould]

Oh dear that's completely wrong Mr Z .

Yellow are very dusty and are also for track .

Redstuff are oe from cold , low dust and not for track .

[zollaf]

which is why every review of redstuff says they dont work from cold, and from my own experience they dont work from cold. sure they are a great pad and low dust, but they dont work from cold. thats not just my opinion or experience, thats the view of anyone who has used them. well, yes, they do work from cold, a block of wood will work as a brake pad, but they are not very good from cold. once hot they do work, but not from cold.

[Gazwould]

They do otherwise I would be dead...

I have them front and rear on two cars and my dad's old car had them up front , thats 20 Redstuff pads of satisfaction .

The trouble is with reviews is most of them are out of date because they have changed the formulations , iirc Greenstuff has had several revisions alone .

If they were wood from cold they wouldn't of achieved ECE Regulation 90 .

On another Audi forum they are the pad of choice for RS3's to stop an oem pad squeal .

[royclark]

redstuff need to be almost glowing to work, so great for track but not so great for road. yellowstuff is where its at, or trw dtec are also really good for the money and low dust.

I have REDSTUFF fitted and they work very well, much better than OEM and I don't drive like I stole it.

[Guest 2]

I've found that whoever supplies TPS whenever I get brakes are fine. Whether it be ATE, Ferodo or Pagid, have had no issues over the years.

I just changed the front pads on my A3 quote recently which were ATE and are now Ferodo and got 75k before the light came on. The last set I managed 80k out of a front set of pads.

[Luckytom]

Haha I do love a forum, thanks chaps looks like it's red stuffs then... Now discs thinking mtec drilled, I know they may warp, crack etc but I'm a bit of a show pony these days and might even get em in black to match my moosive black wheels

[Luckytom]

The they is the bloody yanks

[Luckytom]

I've found that whoever supplies TPS whenever I get brakes are fine. Whether it be ATE, Ferodo or Pagid, have had no issues over the years.

I just changed the front pads on my A3 quote recently which were ATE and are now Ferodo and got 75k before the light came on. The last set I managed 80k out of a front set of pads.

Please forgive my ignorance, but who is TPS?

[Gazwould]

https://tps.trade

ATE also do a low dust standard ceramic pad.

[Luckytom]

Cheers but that TPS website is haunted, won't let me pick my car everytime I try and put 3.0 tdi it resets grrrrrr. Thanks anyway

[MarkTM]

The they is the bloody yanks

I mean which company and the URL would be good as my brothers coming over in two weeks and would like to know the cheapest place to buy?

[Guest 2]

Go into your local branch, it's mostly usually just trade, hence the name, Trade Parts Specialists but if you know exactly what you want they can sell to the public on a cash account

Thankfully my local VW dealer is very friendly and will order in Audi only parts for me.

[Luckytom]

I mean which company and the URL would be good as my brothers coming over in two weeks and would like to know the cheapest place to buy?

Ahh sorry pal, I found best place was American Amazon:
Amazon.com: Akebono EUR1322 Front Brake Pad: Automotive (https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004US3BCW/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1473627431&sr=1-3&pi=SX200_QL40&vehicle=2009-73-6617-20--7-6-6-8970--1-1-2923--1-0&dpPl=1&dpID=51MxyrtM6rL&ref=plSrch)

There's a few suppliers, can he carry two sets :-)

[Luckytom]

Go into your local branch, it's mostly usually just trade, hence the name, Trade Parts Specialists but if you know exactly what you want they can sell to the public on a cash account

Thankfully my local VW dealer is very friendly and will order in Audi only parts for me.

Cheers pal will have a dixey at em