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jangles
21-02-2015, 07:22 PM
For the past few months, I've noticed a clicking noise after I start my car from cold. The car's an A4 (B7) 2.0 TDI S Line multitronic, '06 plate, with about 142K miles on the clock now. Loved driving this car since I bought it in 2010. I'm the second owner.

The clicking is accompanied by the lights going dim. Meaning, all lighting: dashboard, centre console, courtesy lights, everything. If the head and tail lights are on, they dim simultaneously as well. The clicking is momentary, sort of like an on-off sequence. So it's about 1-2 seconds. In that sequence, the lights dim and then come back up to normal again in that 1-2 seconds time.

THe location of the clicking noise seems to come from somewhere behind the dash or in it. If I'm sitting in the driver's seat, it seems to be from behind the speedo area.

A bit of online searching for this turned up a thread in this forum that started in 2010: Clicking noise (http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?88790-Clicking-noise&highlight=clicking+relay+b7)

I would have added this post to that thread, but it's marked as closed. It's a really useful discussion as it focused on some areas I would not have considered, eg, possibly related to the glow plugs although whenever I start the car, whether from cold or already warmed up, I always wait for the glow plug dash light to go out before turning the key to start the engine.

In this cold weather, what I tend to do is turn on the heated rear window (that also includes the heated door mirrors) and the defrost immediately after starting the engine, once all the usual dashboard warning lights have gone out. Now I'm thinking about all that extra load on the electrical system from the start. So tomorrow, when the car's stone cold, I will start the engine but not turn on anything else to see if that makes any difference (I'll update this post).

I'm now wondering whether replacing the battery with a brand new one might solve this. The battery in the car is the original from new. That means its 9 years old (according to the plate in the engine compartment, the car was built in Feb 2006). It has never been the source of any issues or problems. The car was in Reading Audi for a major service a few weeks ago, and the dealer also did one of those health checks that included checking the electrical system. Nothing untoward reported.

Do you think this is the route to a solution? Thanks for any insights and advice.

Doctle Odd
21-02-2015, 07:47 PM
Bring the car to Halfords or any tyre & battery place they will test it for free

Tabletski
22-02-2015, 11:08 AM
Clicking noises might be relay related, check your aircon when you turn on switch to off as it seems to always start up in on mode. There may be other electrical draw items eg. stereo and heated seats which you have forgotten to turn off.

niall campbell
22-02-2015, 02:50 PM
Two options for you to consider.

Frosty weather kills batterys and brings out all the dud cells.

Alternator might be on way out and when the alternator is being asked to kick in and work to charge battery, the brushes might be on the way out and the springs pushing the carbon are at their full expansion............ so cant quite push strongly enough to work.

However, your cheapest option is checking battery.

Incidentally I have just replaced the battery on my A6 2.0 tdi, I bought the Bosch S 5 , which has a higher CC ( Cold Cranking Amps) than the standard Type 096 for my car.

The original battery should be a Varta battery, which is Bosch !
Bosch S5 Car Battery Type 096: Amazon.co.uk: Car & Motorbike (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bosch-Car-Battery-Type-096/dp/B005XVUQ6Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1424612605&sr=8-1&keywords=bosch+s5+096)

However I suspect that the alternator is on its way out

jangles
22-02-2015, 04:47 PM
@Doctle_Odd, thanks, it's in my mind to do that.

jangles
22-02-2015, 04:49 PM
@Tabletski good suggestion re aircon, thanks.

jangles
22-02-2015, 04:50 PM
@niallcampbell appreciate the tip (and link) re the Bosch S5 battery, thanks.

jangles
22-02-2015, 05:08 PM
Useful tips and advice today, thanks!

I started up the engine from stone cold this morning, this time not turning on defrost, heated rear window etc. Can't be 100% certain but it seemed to me that there were clicks but stopped very soon after engine start. Maybe I'm now hearing things! Feeling is that this made little or no difference.

Other feeling leans towards replacing the battery. The one in my car is 9 years old, surely at or getting to its end of useful life period. Still, I want to get it tested so I did pop into a Halfords this morning per @DoctleOdd suggestion, but they were too busy and/or not enough staff available (see that too often at Halfords). I did check out batteries on sale, though. They don't do Bosch, just their own brand plus one I'd not heard of: Yuasa 12V Silver Car Battery HSB096 (http://www.halfords.com/motoring/bulbs-wiper-blades-batteries/batteries/yuasa-12v-silver-car-battery-hsb096-5-yr-guarantee#tab1) for £104.99 (and I see the same one on Amazon (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Yuasa-YBX5096-Performance-Battery-Silver/dp/B00KNQT0NY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1424620706&sr=8-2&keywords=batteries+yuasa) for £75.99).

But, I favour Bosch mainly because of past good experience with that brand plus @niallcampbell's recommendation (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bosch-Car-Battery-Type-096/dp/B005XVUQ6Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1424612605&sr=8-1&keywords=bosch+s5+096) and his experience.

I'll do my start-up tests for a few more days...

niall campbell
22-02-2015, 05:36 PM
You need to check that it is a Type 096 you have in the car ?

On very cold mornings, you may need to switch on ignition twice without starting the engine first time to allow the glow plugs to pre heat the diesel first.

I am still tempted to test battery first and then the alternator is correctly charging the battery, it still looks as if the alternator is not kicking in quick enough when " under load "

" under load " is putting on lights, air con, demisters, heated mirrors fan heater all at the same time. .............................. this is when you check the amperage of the alternator ........... usually you do it also when car is ticking over for a quick check

These checks should be free

Doctle Odd
22-02-2015, 06:45 PM
Speculate 10 quid on a multimeter and you can check your battery, rate of charfe and many other things forever at home

jangles
28-02-2015, 06:19 PM
Thanks again everyone for your comments and insights.

The outside temperature hasn't been really cold this week - never below zero - so I'm not sure if the tests I've done have any meaning. But what I have done every time I started up the car is this:

1. Get in car, close door, insert key, turn the ignition on.
2. Turn off heating system, radio.
3. Check the dash display, make sure glow plug light not still lit.
4. Turn ignition fully to start the engine.

The engine fires and idles at about 1050rpm. No clicking or dimming lights at all.

Not had a moment to get the car into Halfords or suchlike to check the battery. Next on the todo list...

arman123
28-02-2015, 07:35 PM
It's your glow plug relay clicking perfectly normal when the weather is very cold nothing to worry about

james z3q
06-03-2015, 12:21 AM
It's your glow plug relay clicking perfectly normal when the weather is very cold nothing to worry about

This sounds logic. My b6 does this when its cold i always wondrred what was drawing so much power mine does it when your driving for first few miles until it warms up
thanx arman123