Adblue top-up

[phope74]

Car flashed up for an Ablue top-up the other day, so for ease, got some today whilst passing the Audi dealer

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£13 for just under 4 litres (came in 2 standard sized bottles) didn't seem too bad, but I'm assuming you can use any AdBlue found in petrol stations, yes?

[Whippy53]

It's all the same stuff.

[MarkTM]

So 6000 miles and it required the full 4l

Did 4lt fill it or just make a dent, also what's the capacity of the adblue tank...on a friends merc I think it's around 6 gallons, so potentially expensive if it empties.

[zollaf]

i look after some minibuses for a local place, they run 5 of them. 2 years ago they took on a new contract using a vw crafter converted to a low floor thingy, totally unsuitable for the roads around here. anyway, they did the budget etc, but didn't take into account the 20 litres of adblue it would use each week. its 24 quid for 20 litres trade, so yes, it does get quit expensive, even if you don't pay retail price.

[Chesterfield313]

The dealers will be making their usual huge mark up. You paid £3.25 per litre. I work for a big distribution company, we buy 1000 litre ibc's of adblue at 35 pence per litre and have bulk tanks filled at 28 pence per litre.

[Chesterfield313]

6 gallons sounds a lot, but the Mercedes website says they use 1 litre every 625 miles and that one tank full should last between services. I guess it must be quite big then. 4 litres isn't going to do much in an empty tank.

[phope74]

I gather the Ultra tank holds 17 litres or 3.75 gallons in old money

Like I said, I just bought the stuff today for convenience as I was passing the dealer, and can sort out a cheaper supply for future :)

[MarkTM]

Sommat like:

Adblue 10 LTR | eBay (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Adblue-10-LTR-/181322504605?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CommercialVe hicleParts_SM&hash=item2a37a9d99d)

£1.53 a liter and delivered to you!

So is it only Ultra's that use it or all new larger diesel Audi's?

[phope74]

Ultra definitely use it, but not sure about other models, as depends on model year/engine, etc

Now that I know any old AdBlue can be used...£1.32 per litre including delivery ;)

AdBlue 18Ltr + Free Pouring Spout Suits All Commercial & Automotive Vehicles | eBay (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AdBlue-18Ltr-Free-Pouring-Spout-Suits-All-Commercial-Automotive-Vehicles-/291075428232?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CommercialVe hicleParts_SM&hash=item43c5728f88)

[Whippy53]

Sommat like:

Adblue 10 LTR | eBay (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Adblue-10-LTR-/181322504605?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CommercialVe hicleParts_SM&hash=item2a37a9d99d)

£1.53 a liter and delivered to you!

So is it only Ultra's that use it or all new larger diesel Audi's?

It's gonna be all of them. It's to meet euro6.

[starsky365]

Wait Adblue? I've done 20k in my C7 and it's not asked for any. Where does it go?


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[Whippy53]

Model? Engine?

[starsky365]

Avant s line 2l 170ps


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[Whippy53]

Yours is I believe, a 2013. It's only on the new ultra at the moment.

[starsky365]

Oh ok cheers- had me worried then!!


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[blair77]

Is there a way you can tell how much is left in the tank? Or is it just a case of you need to top it up when the warning light comes on.

And should I be asking the dealer for a full Ad Blue tank when I pick up my 6k mile Ultra on Friday?

[johnsimcox]

It's gonna be all of them. It's to meet euro6.
Think it is vehicle size/weight dependent. All of the A3s are Euro6 compliant but I do not think any of them require Adblue (even the 2.0 cars which effectively have the same engine as the A6 Ultra.

[johnsimcox]

Is there a way you can tell how much is left in the tank? Or is it just a case of you need to top it up when the warning light comes on.

And should I be asking the dealer for a full Ad Blue tank when I pick up my 6k mile Ultra on Friday?
Believe it is just a warning light, although maybe somewhere in the depths of VCDS you can find out how much is in there. Can't see it hurts to ask and I think some on here have reported being given a bottle of Adblue when the car was new in the same way you used to get a bottle of oil. Are they giving your car a service before you get it, they might top it up as part of that? If not and it is on the fixed programme one of your free services will be gone in the very near future.

[blair77]

Believe it is just a warning light, although maybe somewhere in the depths of VCDS you can find out how much is in there. Can't see it hurts to ask and I think some on here have reported being given a bottle of Adblue when the car was new in the same way you used to get a bottle of oil. Are they giving your car a service before you get it, they might top it up as part of that? If not and it is on the fixed programme one of your free services will be gone in the very near future.

Not sure if the car will be on a fixed or variable service schedule.

[belly buster]

Anyone know what happens if you run out of adblue?

[Whippy53]

Car goes into limp home mode to enable you to drive to a supplier.

[blair77]

Car goes into limp home mode to enable you to drive to a supplier.

Not again :aargh4:

[Whippy53]

Welcome to the future of diesel engines. And it can only get worse. Come on Audi, let's have a decent petrol option?

[Chesterfield313]

The engine going into limp mode is just to make you fill up again. It does no harm to the engine running without adblue, but it is illegal to run without adblue if your vehicle should be using it. All it does is reduce certain emmissions.

When lorries first had it in 2006 there would be no change of power or damage if you ran out. You were however subject to prosecution if caught running without it. HGV manufacturers now limit them to 60% power if they run out to make you fill up, whilst at the same time leaving you enough power to not be a danger on the road.

[mattyholloway]

So my AdBlue refill light came on yesterday. I am currently sat in the dealership waiting for it to be filled up. I did originally buy 3 bottles (as the manual says)from the parts dept and was going to do it myself until the service dept said the system needs to be reset?! Thought toping up would be as easy as adding oil but no[emoji35] My car has done 7000 miles but if this is what's required every time I'm not going to be too happy! Sorry, rant over!!


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[Whippy53]

I am very, very surprised that it needs resetting. Wow. What a cash cow. And I expect they will only top up with 'their' fluid.

[mattyholloway]

I'm on the road again. They ended up putting 13 litres in! Not got to the cost side yet as they couldn't get authorisation from lease company. I'm hoping that it's included in maintenance plan?!


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[MarkTM]

My dealer says that Adblue can be bought from them for £12.31 inc VAT for 10l BARGAIN!!

Yes they say that you need to reset the adblue reservoir, obviously I've no idea what this entials and if it can be done in VCDS by those wanting to DIY.

If not then defo a cash cow if they charge a software fee for this :1zhelp:

[Whippy53]

Just gleaned this off a different forum
" Turn ingnition on for 30 sec (do not start car) to reset lamp. (IIRC it's in the owners manual)."

Might be worth a try.

[ukgroucho]

Just gleaned this off a different forum
" Turn ingnition on for 30 sec (do not start car) to reset lamp. (IIRC it's in the owners manual)."

Might be worth a try.

How do you turn the ignition on without starting the car if you have keyless 'go'?

[jk88]

How do you turn the ignition on without starting the car if you have keyless 'go'? Press the start button without your foot on the brake pedal in an auto (assume don't depress the clutch in a manual).

[blair77]

Oh well, at least I got more than 5 days out of this A6 before a warning light came on.

My Ad Blue warning display has came on, after 7 days of owning the car. I've seemingly got 1500 miles to get it to a dealer. Wondering if it is just a set charge to top it up, so if I leave it to the last minute to get it topped up it will work out better value for money.

[MarkTM]

Blair, unless you've been doing 1000's of miles per day they HAVE to do it FoC!

So either the Adblue wasn't filled properly, there's a leak or else it has a faulty sensor, none of these can be considered driver induced after a week! :1zhelp:

[Chesterfield313]

As Mark says, they have to fill it up FOC. It could be any of the above, but most likely a shoddy PDI and you should receive a fill up and an apology.

[mattyholloway]

I think 7000 to 8000 miles seems to be the norm before the first Ad Blue top up is needed. Mine needed 13 litres, and the dealer was going to charge £110 for the pleasure until I kicked up! Apparently, according to the service guy, ad blue shouldn't be needed between services?! Next time the warning light comes on, I'm certainly not going to go through the workshop!


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[Pikey Narna]

Sorry to sound daft guys, but do all diesel cars require this Adblue. I have just bought a 2012 A6 2.0 ltr SE 30,000 miles

Cheers

Andy

[mattyholloway]

Hi Andy, no just the Ultra models. You're fine! :)


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[Pikey Narna]

Hi Matt

Please can you tell me why its just for the Ultra

Thanks

Andy

[mattyholloway]

I'm no expert but I believe that it reduces the NOx emissions by cleaning exhaust gasses. (correct me if I'm wrong guys!) It's how they make the Ultra editions have an output of 114co2.


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[Chesterfield313]

I'm no expert either, but I think the nox is different to the co2, hopefully someone can post to confirm or put me straight. I do know that lorries have had it since 2006 to clean them up. I also know that engines run perfectly well without it, but the manufacturers put an artificial engine restrictor on to make sure you top up.

[Whippy53]

Nox, its to enable diesels to comply with Euro 6. The tank should hold enough to see you through till the next service (under normal driving) where presumably the add the cost to the bill. Yet another reason for the private motorist to avoid diesels.

[johnsimcox]

I'm no expert either, but I think the nox is different to the co2, hopefully someone can post to confirm or put me straight. I do know that lorries have had it since 2006 to clean them up. I also know that engines run perfectly well without it, but the manufacturers put an artificial engine restrictor on to make sure you top up.
NOx is catch all term for Nitrogen Oxide in its various forms and is deemed to be more harmful to human health than CO2. To conform with EU6 emissions legislation diesel engines have to deliver much lower levels of NOx and CO2 and for larger engines the way to achieve this NOx reduction is to include Urea in the fuel mix and hence the combustion process. It seems that sub-2 litre engines (and even 2 litre engines in small cars like the A3) can achieve the necessary threshold without using an additive but larger cars require it. I think MB has been using on some of their cars for some time to achieve Euro 5 emissions. Even if they don't have it today you will find that all larger diesel engines will require the use of an adaptive in the future to meet the legislation (Ultra tagging or not) and no doubt eventually even smaller engines will need it. Having spent years promoting diesel engines as a good thing for CO2 emissions (to the exclusion of all other implications) governments have fallen out of love with the diesel (hence plans to charge non-EU6 diesels to enter London) and will be doing everything they can to make them emit less pollution.

[MarkTM]

Oh well, at least I got more than 5 days out of this A6 before a warning light came on.

My Ad Blue warning display has came on, after 7 days of owning the car. I've seemingly got 1500 miles to get it to a dealer. Wondering if it is just a set charge to top it up, so if I leave it to the last minute to get it topped up it will work out better value for money.

Blair, one thing worth mentioning, since I've always been a cheeky beggar, I have in the past threatened to bill main dealers for unnecessary visits due to their incompetence.*

In one case they settled with £50 of corporate goodies, in another a free service.

*I've never been unreasonable and its always been at their own hourly rate :)

[Whippy53]

If I may nitpick? It's not actually added to the fuel to form part of the combustion process, rather It's injected downstream of this into the exhaust system where it does its chemical stuff.

[blair77]

So should my Ad Blue reservior been topped up before I picked the car up then? It was around 6,800 miles when I took delivery.

Was hoping to avoid more hassle with Audi, however if it is around £100 to top up then hassle it will have to be.

[robes401]

Just gleaned this off a different forum
" Turn ingnition on for 30 sec (do not start car) to reset lamp. (IIRC it's in the owners manual)."

Might be worth a try.

Can anyone confirm this works as I'm really hoping one can top up the adblue and reset the system without a visit to the main dealer!


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[johnsimcox]

So should my Ad Blue reservior been topped up before I picked the car up then? It was around 6,800 miles when I took delivery.

Was hoping to avoid more hassle with Audi, however if it is around £100 to top up then hassle it will have to be.
You asked this earlier in this post. I would have thought they should have as part of the process of prepping the car prior to delivery. Have you ascertained if it is also on fixed or variable service? If it is fixed then it will be needing an oil change at about the same time as the Adblue runs out. Might make sense to kill two birds with one stone

[mattyholloway]

Going by the handbook, there is no mention of resetting the system. My guess is that there must be a sensor inside the tank that will turn the warning in the DIS off when enough adblue is put in. They do say that you have to put a minimum of 3 bottles in each fill. I'm going that route next time the indicator goes on!


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[Chesterfield313]

So should my Ad Blue reservior been topped up before I picked the car up then? It was around 6,800 miles when I took delivery.

Was hoping to avoid more hassle with Audi, however if it is around £100 to top up then hassle it will have to be.

As mentioned before, you have only just bought it, as a matter of courtesy they should have checked it. It's like not checking the oil. If they do want to charge don't accept their ridiculous mark up on the adblue. I've said this before as well, I work for a distribution company and we buy it in bulk at 28 pence per litre.

[JeffLA6]

........ Yet another reason for the private motorist to avoid diesels.

This. My next car is definitely not going to be a diesel!!!

[mattyholloway]

I do find it quite strange that there isn't a function to check the Ad Blue level through the MMI like you would check the oil!


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[cooperme]

Ultra definitely use it, but not sure about other models, as depends on model year/engine, etc

Now that I know any old AdBlue can be used...£1.32 per litre including delivery ;)

AdBlue 18Ltr + Free Pouring Spout Suits All Commercial & Automotive Vehicles | eBay (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AdBlue-18Ltr-Free-Pouring-Spout-Suits-All-Commercial-Automotive-Vehicles-/291075428232?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CommercialVe hicleParts_SM&hash=item43c5728f88)

Thought I'd share my experience. My A6 Ultra flashed up the adblue warning after about 6800 miles. I've bought the 18Ltr container from the link above - it arrived quickly, and has a free screw on spout too. Filled up last night (I didn't measure but I reckon I got about 12 litres in). No problems (other than manhandling an 18kg container and trying not to spill the adblue!) and once I switched the car back on the adblue warning light has gone. The whole process was a bit of a pain in the ar*e but far less painful than going to a main dealer and being fleeced. I do around 27k miles per year so I'm going to have to get used to this ;)

[Omegadirective]

AdBlue info:

Diesel exhaust fluid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_exhaust_fluid)

[MarkTM]

AdBlue info:

Diesel exhaust fluid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_exhaust_fluid)

Gosh, who'd have thought, those that could afford a £30k car couldn't use T'internet!!? :biglaugh:

[MarkTM]

Cooperme,

Am guessing that when you factor in your uncommonly high mileage and the fact you'd be DIY it still works at below £100 inc your reduced road tax...so still good.

Am sure if you'd done the same miles and relied on dealers to do the job for you it would have been less economic than having a non-ultra model.

Anyone as yet advised

a) how much dealers actually charge for the service?
b) do they insist on a scan for adblue
c) if yes to b then why since it seems to serve no purpose??

[rickerby]

Thought I'd share my experience. My A6 Ultra flashed up the adblue warning after about 6800 miles. I've bought the 18Ltr container from the link above - it arrived quickly, and has a free screw on spout too. Filled up last night (I didn't measure but I reckon I got about 12 litres in). No problems (other than manhandling an 18kg container and trying not to spill the adblue!) and once I switched the car back on the adblue warning light has gone. The whole process was a bit of a pain in the ar*e but far less painful than going to a main dealer and being fleeced. I do around 27k miles per year so I'm going to have to get used to this ;)





A pan in the A***e? - But by the sound of it, its no more complicated or difficult than topping up the oil

[mattyholloway]

I'm pleased to hear that the Adblue light goes out without the dealer insisting that it goes through them!


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[weedave]

Just had the same thing happen to me after 6800 miles. Didn't expect it as the literature states it should only require topping up at every service. Went to my local dealer, "sorry mate, the techs need to put it in" I was heading on a road trip that day so it was not an option. Long story short, 6 bottles for £35 and no reset required. Why they didn't put an electronic monitor on the adblue like the oil I have no idea. The warning that showed on my dash was that it would not start again after the 600 miles until adblue was added. The adblue filler is next to the fuel cap on the Ultra and you need the wheel brace to remove the cap. Still not sure how much it holds tho.

[Westyfield2]

Given that Adblue only goes in the exhaust to clean emissions from smelly diesels, and doesn't actually go inside the engine...

Does it actually have to be Adblue? What if the bottle was full of water? Would the sensor just see that the container was full and re-enable the car? ;)

[stotty5]

I rang the dealer 2 weeks ago when the warning first appeared and initially they said it needed an Adblue service, I asked what for as surely just topping up a fluid doesn't constitute a service they said it needed the service to clear the warning light.

I asked how much it would cost and they said £100, at that point I challenged why nobody had bothered to tell me about this when I collected the car as it seemed a bit steep, they said I'll just check. When they came back on the phone I was told I could buy the Adblue from them and put it in myself and the warning would clear within the next 300km (not sure why km when it's a UK car in miles!)

Anyway I bought 1.5 gallons yesterday (3 bottles) for £19, put it in myself today and the warning display cleared instantly. Only hassle is having to remove the spare wheel to get to the wheel brace in order to remove the Adblue filler cap.

Other than that it's easy, so don't pay £100 for an Adblue service - unless of course you've more money than sense

[MarkTM]

Clearly if the Adblue lasts circa 6800 miles before the waning it is being dispensed at a consistent rate regardless of the style/speed of driving....worth knowing

Saw a neighbour adding his today with what looked to be a 20l canister on a step ladder, he just connected the hose and then tilted the bottle...so minimal effort in trying to manhandle the fluid.

Questions:

1) How do you know when it's getting full?
2) Why hasn't someone designed a filler cap removal tool that fits in the toolkit?
3) Does it damage paintwork if it spills?

[stotty5]

Clearly if the Adblue lasts circa 6800 miles before the waning it is being dispensed at a consistent rate regardless of the style/speed of driving....worth knowing

Saw a neighbour adding his today with what looked to be a 20l canister on a step ladder, he just connected the hose and then tilted the bottle...so minimal effort in trying to manhandle the fluid.

Questions:

1) How do you know when it's getting full?
2) Why hasn't someone designed a filler cap removal tool that fits in the toolkit?
3) Does it damage paintwork if it spills?

I used the 0.5 gallon bottles from the main dealer, their advice was that 1.5 gallons would be plenty so I didn't need to worry about overfilling. I'm not sure how you'd know it was getting full if using a 10l drum with a hose

Yes totally agree a tool to remove the cap that doesn't involve getting the wheel brace out would be much easier, not sure there is such a tool though!

When using the 0.5 gallon bottles it's virtually impossible to spill it as you have to twist the bottle onto the filler neck which then breaks the plastic seal and you then push the bottle to release the Adblue. When I googled it though it says it's highly corrosive to all metals apart from stainless steel so I'm guessing if you use anything other than the bottles you'd need to be really careful not to spill it!

[phope74]

Well, the 4 litres I topped up with at the beginning of the thread have gone in around 2500 miles with the 1500 mile range warning up again, so that would bear out around 1 litre every 600 miles or so

After advice here, I'd bought a 10 litre bottle for £15 on ebay, and topped up the tank yesterday, and it took the full 10 litres - should last another 6000 miles or so

AdBlue 10Ltr + Free Pouring Spout Suits all Commercial & Automotive Vehicles | eBay (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301092066063?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)

[robes401]

Owner's manual states 'always refill with 5.7 litres of AdBlue (three bottles). If you do not fill up by this amount of fluid, the system may not detect that the tank has been refilled and it may not be possible to restart the engine. The AdBlue tank holds about 17 litres'.


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[phope74]

oh, and to remove the cap, I just used a 17mm socket to hand tighten and unscrew the cap - same socket that I use for wheelbolts along with my torque wrench.

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[daycartes]

I've seen adblue sold locally for 35p a litre.

[spitty]

This is a good bit of info, the PDF takes a while to load, but it dismissed a lot of the BS I had understood about adblue. Its not harmful or corrosive!

straight from the DAF truck site.

http://www.daf.eu/SiteCollectionDocuments/UK/adblue_the_facts.pdf

[daycartes]

That is an excellent document which expels most of the myths, as you say. What did surprise me, however, is that the document is 7 years old.

[robes401]

Can anyone recommend where to buy AdBlue from. On eBay it's more than £1.25 per litre, but I've just seen 10 l for just over £11 at the petrol station just outside Edinburgh airport (not sure I'd get away with taking it home in my hand luggage). So it must be available cheaper elsewhere! I want to stock up before I get the top up warning!

[daycartes]

Whereabouts are you. As above I've seen it for 35p in longtown on the A7

[robes401]

Whereabouts are you. As above I've seen it for 35p in longtown on the A7

Salisbury! Just on a day trip to Edinburgh. I know there is AdBlue at the pumps for trucks and wonder if you can fill up the car tank there? Suspect a different filler diameter.

[MarkTM]

Robes, have you read this thread properly?

The well informed guy in post 28 said it can be bought from his local dealer for about £12 for 10l

[Alan G H]

Most truck stops have adblue in their shops. I usually fill up with diesel at a local filling station/truck stop/Spar/cafe, and they have 5 litre containers in the shop. I don't know the price, as my car doesn't need it.

[weedave]

I got 10 litres for £14.99 at Tebay services, it even came with a handy filler. Not exactly handy for everyone but hopefully it is becoming more available.

[jukkha156]

'My 1500 miles left' light has come on for Adblue. My Ultra S-tronic is on 5900 miles. I have booked with Audi Stockport who said their is a software update to be done too.

The charge will be approx £90.00.

[weedave]

Not cheap is it jukkhal56! What is the software update for?

[jukkha156]

Not cheap is it jukkhal56! What is the software update for?

Not cheap at all and I can imagine private buyers getting miffed if they had to do this ever 7k odd miles...

Mine is company car so I won't be paying but still. She did say that we can do it ourselves but 'not recommended'.

I forgot to ask what the update was for, I was too bothered about if they were going to give me an RS6 or S6 as a loaner for the day, lol. I will give the full details of the update when i goto the garage.

[Whippy53]

Fankly my dear, it's a rip off and the main reason why this will be my last diesel, ever.

[Michaels8666]

Salisbury! Just on a day trip to Edinburgh. I know there is AdBlue at the pumps for trucks and wonder if you can fill up the car tank there? Suspect a different filler diameter.

I went to my local truckstop on saturday to fill mine(crooklands j36 m60, price at pump was 62p litre, nozzle fit fine but the pump was card only and only accepts fuel cards.
Ended up bying a 10L container for £12 out of the shop.

[Beagler]

I have ordered a new Q5 for delivery March 1st. Anyone know if it will have Adblue tank and what if any changes to spec. Thanks. :)

[jukkha156]

I have ordered a new Q5 for delivery March 1st. Anyone know if it will have Adblue tank and what if any changes to spec. Thanks. :)

It looks like you ordered the 177bhp engine, which means no adblue tank.

I wonder why the Q5 still doesn't have the Ultra 190 engine yet? Is it something to do with the Quattro system?

[johnsimcox]

It looks like you ordered the 177bhp engine, which means no adblue tank.

I wonder why the Q5 still doesn't have the Ultra 190 engine yet? Is it something to do with the Quattro system?

Suspect it is probably more a supply issue. they can't make enough to meet the A6 demand

[Beagler]

This thread from another forum (not a member now) when I posed the same question but I do get conflicting views, thought I would seek advice here.



Posted 17 October 2014 - 03:11 PM
Hi Beagler. Well my 2.0 TDi 177 2014 (tel:177 2014) model certainly does so see no reason why it shouldn't.



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[Nemo78]

Had the refill Adblue 'warning' flash up this evening....

Will have a proper read of thread to see if simple enough to DIY or part with some hard earned money to local dealership.

Warnings flashed up at 6,400 miles with a adblue range of 1,500 miles to top up


Not cheap is it jukkhal56! What is the software update for?

Had update done literally couple of days ago. Apparently it's an ECU update to 'shut off' things that aren't being used to help conserve battery life...that's what I was told when I asked!

[Splash]

I don't have a car that uses AdBlue although it's probably going to happen, but does anyone know about the boxes that are used on wagons and which "bypass" the AdBlue system? Don't know if they're available for cars (yet) but googling revealed some info. Perhaps Andrew at DTUK may have some knowledge (if you're reading this Andrew)...portfolio diversification! Not condoning it, just curious after reading The Sunday Times today...

[johnsimcox]

I don't have a car that uses AdBlue although it's probably going to happen, but does anyone know about the boxes that are used on wagons and which "bypass" the AdBlue system? Don't know if they're available for cars (yet) but googling revealed some info. Perhaps Andrew at DTUK may have some knowledge (if you're reading this Andrew)...portfolio diversification! Not condoning it, just curious after reading The Sunday Times today...
I'm thinking MOT failure in the same way as removing the DPF is now also generating failures as the car has to have the same Emissions equipment in place as when it was built.

[Splash]

The article suggested the box could be turned off and on (remotely?) and that nothing was removed i.e. it intercepts and/or adjusts the signal requesting AdBlue injection.

[Nemo78]

Spoken to the dealership today and they sell Adblue at £6.50+VAT a bottle and said you could need up to 13 bottles I think....

However they are doing £40+VAT to fill it - not bad in fairness when compared to the £100 people have been quoted.

However still not as cheap as the DIY option

[Whippy53]

Shell, and I can presume the other players, are making noises about ad blue pumps on forecourts.

[jukkha156]

'My 1500 miles left' light has come on for Adblue. My Ultra S-tronic is on 5900 miles. I have booked with Audi Stockport who said their is a software update to be done too.

The charge will be approx £90.00.

So the job was done yesterday and was surprised that i was only charged £55.00 inc vat.

The software update they said was a recall for updating the ECU!

They also did a health check, tyre wear, brake pads etc.

I didn't get an RS6 Loaner for the day but an A3 Se :(

Apart from that, job well done I suppose !

[mattyholloway]

So it looks like I won't be able to get to my cars' first service without another AdBlue top up. Currently on 15,000 miles and the message came on again. Got another 4k before service is due! I'm not going through workshop this time, just top it up myself!!


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[robes401]

So it looks like I won't be able to get to my cars' first service without another AdBlue top up. Currently on 15,000 miles and the message came on again. Got another 4k before service is due! I'm not going through workshop this time, just top it up myself!!


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Thanks for this. So the 'it will only need topping up at normal service intervals' line is a bit of a lie. Useful to know that the tank isn't full when new and the tank isn't big enough to last 19,000 miles. (As is common my adblue warning light has just come on at 5200 miles).

I assume someone has calculated the amount Audi save by only part filling the tank combined with the amount dealerships charge for pouring some non-hazardous fluid into the tank...


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[Nemo78]

Have to say the 'No Restart.....' Warning had me reaching FTM. Surely it could be worded a little better. Anyhow too up day tomorrow!

Did notice BP garage selling Ad Blue with a pipe/nozzle on (10L = £13)

How many litres do we need?

[Nemo78]

All done at dealers for just under £40

[mattyholloway]

No issues Nemo? I'm off to the parts dept at my audi dealer in a bit. Was it easy to do? Cheers, Matt


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[mattyholloway]

All sorted. 3 bottles £20. No problems, all warning lights gone out!


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[Nemo78]

Apols for delay Matt, how much did your car drink?

[mattyholloway]

No probs! I put 3 of the 1/2 gallon bottles into the tank which worked fine. Did the dealer fill the tank or did you just pay for the bottles? The car was indicating 600 miles before empty. I have to say to all Ultra owners, don't listen to the "we need to reset the system etc" line which I listened to the first time! There are no issues at all. Warning lights go out, and the adblue message goes off. Cheers.


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[Nemo78]

I just got the dealer to fill..they were doing £40 for the adblue and labour. Went in at the 350mile mark.

Was told that there are two tanks and max capacity is 27L

[mattyholloway]

That's not a bad offer, considering yours needed more adblue. [emoji106]


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[Whippy53]

Don't understand why people are paying Audi to do this. Service dept must be laughing all the way to the bank.:confused:

[robes401]

I bought an 18 litre container from my local motor factors for £25. Filled the tank this afternoon which took about 14 litres (displayed 800 miles left). Would recommend buying a 10 litre container and dumping the whole lot in rather than handling 18l (a bit of an annoying size/weight) and having to be careful to stop when full.

[hatleyDB]

For what its worth i thought i would add my experience...

Bought my A6 Avant 1st Aug 2014, and was told i wouldnt need to worry, it will last until the service at 18k.....

7500 miles in around mid november and the light comes on saying i have 1500 miles, and as it needed a new MMI completely anyway i told them to sort the adBlue, no quibble, when i collected it i was told it was topped up and done.

This week, at 10500k it comes on again, 1500 miles, so again i return to the dealer, a little miffed, so they take it in there and then and turns out it takes 15litres to top up again, all done with no charge mentioned again as i would expect.

The bit that concerns me is that between visits, it was only 3k and took 15l to fill, i'm thinking something there isn't right.....

[Whippy53]

That sounds a bit iffy to me, I would definitely think about getting that looked at.

[cooperme]

Update now that I've reached nearly 16,000 miles. Adblue warning light came on again, so this time time I spoke nicely to the people at the M42 Jn 2 services (Shell / Waitrose) which have adblue pumps at the HGV filling area. It's 80p / litre from the pump and as long as you pre-pay (leave a card with them first) you can use the pump to fill the adblue tank directly. I was down to the '500 miles to go' warning and got just under 16 litres in the tank before it brimmed. £12.62 all in. Just a couple of things to bear in mind:

1. As others have said, unless you get the wheelbrace from under your spare wheel, you need an adjustable spanner or socket to undo the adblue cover on the A6. Easy enough either way but needs planning in advance.
2. The nozzle only just fits in the hole. It auto-stops in the same way as a fuel pump so this means you can only deliver the adblue very slowly (light squeeze on the trigger!). It took a while to fill up as a result so don't go at peak times and risk holding up the HGVs! I might try using a funnel next time to get round this.

Other than that it was a doddle, and seems the cheapest and simplest way to do it. The warning light re-sets itself immediately.

[daycartes]

80p a litre is expensive. Locally to me it's 35p I live close to end of m6.

[cooperme]

Sounds good - can you share the location of the garage?:D

[daycartes]

Yes J44 leave M6 take A7 towards hawick, after 7 miles you arrive Longtown keep going over the bridge and it's immediately on your right. Passport not necessary for crossing the border.
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[cooperme]

Ha Ha - I should have paid more attention to your location!! I thought you meant the other end of the M6 (i.e. J1). I'll bear this in mind for when I'm up in the Lakes but since I'm Midlands based I think the difference in cost would be outweighed by the extra diesel!!!:biglaugh:

[Scott K]

At the speed you are using it, you should get the 200l drum!!!

[Diamaduk]

Took mine to the dealers today, no appointment, filled by them straight away which took about 15 mins. Cost £24 inc vat, can't grumble.

Tyneside Audi, Silverlink.

[Trig1234]

My A6 Ultra has done 5900 miles and will run out in 600 miles times. When I purchased the car I was told that it should last until the next service.... Just called servicing department who quoted "on average 1.5 litres of adblue lasts 620 miles" which is near enough what I am getting but on a 17 litre tank that's just over 7000 miles which is no way near a service I think the sales rep is talking rubbish.

Audi do a fixed price refill (17 litres if empty) for £39 which is cheaper than buying the small refills from BP garage.

[Trig1234]

Sack Audi off 10L for £11.03 at BP garage in Didcot (which is a lot cheaper than £6.99 per litre bottle which Audi claimed it would cost me at BP garages)

[mattyholloway]

Had the dreaded message come up again! Now you can purchase a hose that will fill up from a larger bottle of AdBlue. Think it was about £6.00

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[Caedmon]

Just past 14000 miles and due a second Adblue top up. May I ask if anyone else has had this paid for by their lease company on a service and maintenance basis. Mine are arguing that it's my responsibility like it would be to top oil up between services. My view is that it's an integral part of the cars maintenance and it up to them.

[mattyholloway]

Just past 14000 miles and due a second Adblue top up. May I ask if anyone else has had this paid for by their lease company on a service and maintenance basis. Mine are arguing that it's my responsibility like it would be to top oil up between services. My view is that it's an integral part of the cars maintenance and it up to them.

I've had the very same conversation with our lease company (vw finance). They won't budge on this issue, so in my case it is down to my company to pay for AdBlue!


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[Westyfield2]

To be honest, I agree with the lease company

Petrol / Diesel is the fuel, and in any car you expect to use it.

Oil is something you expect to top up between services, unless your engine is broken and burning oil!

Adblue is injected in to the exhaust (before the catalyst), and I'd say it's just like fuel. Actually, the fact that it's in your fuel filler cap probably means that the manufacturers agree!

[berlintaxi]

Got to agree, I'd view it the same as filling up with Diesel, you use it as you drive so therefore it needs replacing, can't see it as a maintenance issue, even the most cack-handed person in the world (me) can manage to re-fill the adblue with no issues.

[A6S]

Hi folks
A couple of questions
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qY0c6_A2Y0M
In this YouTube video the guy seems to have a key for opening the adblue cap. Does anyone have this or know where I can buy one? Searched the car and can't find one.

Also anyone know what to look for in vcds to show the level or quantity of adblue in the tank?
4900 on the clock and the warning has came on on the dash saying 1500 miles to go.

Cheers

Al

[johnsimcox]

Hi folks
A couple of questions
KRUSE Automotive - AdBlue® Betankung eines PKW - YouTube (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qY0c6_A2Y0M)
In this YouTube video the guy seems to have a key for opening the adblue cap. Does anyone have this or know where I can buy one? Searched the car and can't find one.

Also anyone know what to look for in vcds to show the level or quantity of adblue in the tank?
4900 on the clock and the warning has came on on the dash saying 1500 miles to go.

Cheers

Al

My understanding is that you can use the wheel brace that comes with the car to undo the Adblue filler cap

[A6S]

Wheel brace is a pain to get to and risk of scratching car as well as over tightening the cap as it should just be a bit more than finger tight. That key looks like the best solution, simple and effective.
Going to speak to my mate who can machine these things and see if he can make one. If he can do them cheap then might consider selling them.

[Daniel44]

I agree, I would love to be able to buy one of these keys to open up the ad blue cap. I don't fancy using the wheel brace for fear of it slipping off and damaging the body work. Hopfully somebody will be able to locate a company where one can be purchased from.

[JMR1]

The economics gap between Diesel and Petrol, is definitely getting narrower and narrower,you would really need to be putting up high yearly milage now to justify buying a diesel engined car.

[fest0r]

What about a 17mm nylon sleeved socket for £7?

Deep Thin Wall Alloy Wheel Impact Socket 17mm 19mm 21mm 22mm 23mm 24mm 27mm | eBay (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Deep-Thin-Wall-Alloy-Wheel-Impact-Socket-17mm-19mm-21mm-22mm-23mm-24mm-27mm-/291178148168)

[A6S]

What about a 17mm nylon sleeved socket for £7?

Deep Thin Wall Alloy Wheel Impact Socket 17mm 19mm 21mm 22mm 23mm 24mm 27mm | eBay (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Deep-Thin-Wall-Alloy-Wheel-Impact-Socket-17mm-19mm-21mm-22mm-23mm-24mm-27mm-/291178148168)

You are still going to have a risk of scratching car with a ratchet.
Was thinking that a socket like this with a ring or something similar welded to the end of it. Just leave in the glove box and use it when needed.

[chiefbadger]

Mine was only finger tight in the first place so have left it at that again and no issues at all!


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[fest0r]

You are still going to have a risk of scratching car with a ratchet.
Was thinking that a socket like this with a ring or something similar welded to the end of it. Just leave in the glove box and use it when needed.

Surely you would be able to use the socket on its own without a ratchet? If you need more grip then slide the socket into a longer piece rubber tube.

[N16E]

Hi,

My car's just done 14000 miles and I've put adblue in 3 times, albeit once was only 6ltres to get me home. Typically I'm getting 6400 miles between fills, just a couple of observations, I reckon it'd be really easy to over stress the plastic cap....care is needed, with the large adblue with tube I couldn't figure out how to get the last amount out....anyone? Finally the guy at the dealer told me driving in economy uses more of the stuff, needless to say it been dynamic mode ever since.[emoji3]

N16e


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[A6S]

Just got this
Genuine Vw / Audi AdBlue Filling Hose Kit for 5L & 10L Bottles Sharan Crafter | eBay (http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/161481367485?nav=SEARCH)
hopefully it will make it easier with the 10 or 18 litre drums of adblue. Just ordered 10litres and see how long it lasts before getting an 18 litre.
Does anyone know the exact amount needed to fill from like 100 miles left on the counter?

[berlintaxi]

The 10 litre bottle I bought recently came with a hose which fitted in the neck of the tank fine.

[A6S]

400 mile range on dash and it took approximately 16-17 litres to fill.
Now I know why some companies sell in 18 litres drums. I reckon if I ran it till zero miles it would take a whole 18 litres.

[burningoil]

hi, do you need a special audi filling kit ? . I can get 20 litres on ebay for £22.89 delivered - comes with free pouring spout. The Mrs just got a new A6 ultra 190 saloon' tronic a couple of weeks ago. Would rather be prepared. Dont have great relationship with local dealer so would rather not venture in there. Do i need to re-set anything in car after i top up ?
Many Thanks

[berlintaxi]

You don't need a special kit in my experience just the spout that comes on the containers of Adblue you can buy at most motor factors, although I imagine 20 litres is going to be heavy to hold up whilst it empties. The car will reset itself when you top up.

[A6S]

My local shell petrol station doing adblue for £11 for 10l
i bought the vag hose cause I didn't want to spill adblue on the car or driveway
brilliant little thing. Attach one end to car and other end to 10l drum and leave it on top of wheelie bin for 5 minutes
good thing about it once it's full all you need to do is put drum on floor and what's left in hose runs back into the drum. Zero spillages

[B6Andy101]

Had the FL for 7 weeks now and just had the 1,000 mile adblue warning light.

6,500 miles on the clock. Does anyone know if it is filled from new at the factory or by the supplying dealer as part of the PDI. Possible might be a dealer chancing it and only half filling it.

Quoted between £1.80 and £5.25 a litre from the dealers. After a little prompting the dealer agreed to fill it up for free. This could get expensive if it need doing every couple of months.

[St3veM]

Just a thought - Has anyone yet seen a way to check the level of the AdBlue tank via VCDS ?

[EssexGonzo]

There was an article in this week's Autocar about the need to top up their long term Ultra Avant. I can't seem to find the content online, it might be behind a paid-for firewall.

[Rower1978]

Had the FL for 7 weeks now and just had the 1,000 mile adblue warning light.

6,500 miles on the clock. Does anyone know if it is filled from new at the factory or by the supplying dealer as part of the PDI. Possible might be a dealer chancing it and only half filling it.

Quoted between £1.80 and £5.25 a litre from the dealers. After a little prompting the dealer agreed to fill it up for free. This could get expensive if it need doing every couple of months.

Yep, mine came on too the other day. On average looks like tank needs refilling every 7500 miles. Luckily a new fuel station has popped up next to me with ad blue pumps. Not sure what they charge yet though. Last time I just bought a 20l bottle from eBay for about £22 and filled myself no problem.

[Col]

You are all of course mad.

As adblue is about 60% water and 30% urea, if I had to use it, I'd be using wee-wee. :biglaugh:

It might be a mellow yellow colour but would be free.

However it could prove tricky getting your winkle lined up with the filler spout and forget it if you are a woman. You could of course keep a 'special' container where you could build up a stock and fill up in one go rather than drop by drop. Either way, you have to stop somewhere quiet to do the biz and if you ever got stopped it could be interesting explaining why you are either seemingly peeing into you fuel tank or driving round with a large bottle of pee in the boot.

In the future when these cars are older and cheap 2nd purchases, when behind one in traffic get used to the aroma of hot pee coming out the exhaust.... which actually come to think of it is exactly what they smell like now !

A pee take....... or is it ?

[edit] the swear filter does not allow the word ****, that word starts with the letter P and rhymes with 'Miss', so please use your imaginations when seeing either **** or pee above to substitute to ****]

[fest0r]

For any females:

Camping, Travelling, Festival | eBay (www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Womans-Ladies-Urine-Funnel-Female-Urinal-She-Wee-Camping-Travelling-Festival-/301580890530)

Sorted :biglaugh:

[Whippy53]

You are all of course mad.

As adblue is about 60% water and 30% urea, if I had to use it, I'd be using wee-wee. :biglaugh:

It might be a mellow yellow colour but would be free.

However it could prove tricky getting your winkle lined up with the filler spout and forget it if you are a woman. You could of course keep a 'special' container where you could build up a stock and fill up in one go rather than drop by drop. Either way, you have to stop somewhere quiet to do the biz and if you ever got stopped it could be interesting explaining why you are either seemingly peeing into you fuel tank or driving round with a large bottle of pee in the boot.

In the future when these cars are older and cheap 2nd purchases, when behind one in traffic get used to the aroma of hot pee coming out the exhaust.... which actually come to think of it is exactly what they smell like now !

A pee take....... or is it ?

[edit] the swear filter does not allow the word ****, that word starts with the letter P and rhymes with 'Miss', so please use your imaginations when seeing either **** or pee above to substitute to ****]
Problem is, there's so much alcohol in mine I really wouldn't feel easy letting it get near a hot exhaust. Do wonders for the dpf though!

[Nemo78]

Good old AdBlue done for second time with car at just under 14k miles with 400 miles to go.

Somehow got dealers negotiated down in price from quoted £39 something to £25

Not bad considering I was going to buy the stuff from BP and attempt it myself [emoji5]️

[Greenman58]

Anyone found a suitable tool for removing Adblue cap apart from the wheel brace?

[Greenman58]

28368Bought one of these in the end after much searching. Long enough to reach and should be enough grip so as not to over tighten the plastic plug. Easy to store in glove box. Why Audi couldn't supply a suitable tool apart from the wheel brace is beyond me!

[MarkTM]

Why Audi couldn't supply a suitable tool apart from the wheel brace is beyond me!

Vorsprung durch technik:confused:

Guys all very well you posting up pics of your tools, what would be more useful for anyone reading this thread would be a URL link or tell us WHERE you got it? :biglaugh:

[Greenman58]

King **** 17mm Nut Spinner 249317 from Amazon £9.64 + £1.96 postage. The T-bar tool in my other post is quite short so I don't think will have enough clearance but just Google SCH-AM190005 if you want to take a look.

[Greenman58]

oooooh i see one of the words in my reply is not allowed :Blush2: But if you know about tools (pun intended) i'm sure you'll know it. If not it rhymes with Mick :biglaugh:

[Greenman58]

28369This would be ideal, the 17mm version is Knipex 98 04 17 £27.99 from eBay :yikes:

[Greenman58]

Just to update I have now received this tool and find it ideal (the black handled screwdriver type a few posts back)

[Daniel44]

So it works well and easy to use? Have been waiting to see what you thought before purchasing.

[Greenman58]

Yes, nice clearance and more than enough grip. Easy to store in the pocket in the boot.

[andyb74]

Just added 1Ol of 32% wee to my a6 ultra, bought from eBay for £14 including spout


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[whitter45]

Nearly ready for my third refill in under 18 months

I have the same conversation with the Company Car lease provider as they first insist its not ocvered by them - interesting conversation each time I drop it into Audi

[berlintaxi]

Nearly ready for my third refill in under 18 months




How many miles have you done, I have had to top mine up twice already in six months 13,000 miles.

[isleaiw]

Can anyone confirm if the adblue is all diesel engines in the facelift or just the 2 litre ultra?

Thanks

[MarkTM]

To my knowledge just cars with 'Ultra' in their spec, which for now is just the 2.0 diesels. :)

[whitter45]

How many miles have you done, I have had to top mine up twice already in six months 13,000 miles.

Sorry typo I meant to say it under 12 months

done nearly 20k

[andyb74]

I have a service contract with Audi, should this be covered or is it classed as maintenance?


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[berlintaxi]

Audi told me it top ups weren't covered by the service plan as it is classed as a consumable.

[kennyh]

I've a face lift (2015 model) A7 3.0 TDI 272 and it has AdBlu.

So it is not just Ultras that have it.

(p.s. I will update my avatar/profile image soon - it currently shows my last A7, in case anyone has eagle eyes and questions it).

[Whippy53]

They should all have it. It allows them to comply with Euro 6 standard.

[AudiNow]

Sorry typo I meant to say it under 12 months

done nearly 20k

Does a light come on when the Adblue needs to be filled up?

[berlintaxi]

Does a light come on when the Adblue needs to be filled up?


You get a message on the dashboard telling you how many miles left until top up required.

[Royston Ford]

My 1,500ml warning came with 5,900 miles on the clock, so I guess that the dealers don't put a lot in. I went to the HGV pumps at a motorway service area and filled up on the AdBlue pump. The nozzle is the right size for the filler but the flow rate is too fast. It's a bit of a fiddle but to stop the pump cutting out you have to operate the filler-lever really gently and with a bit of patience I got just over 10 litres in at which point my tank seemed full. No splashes, no spills. Don't try to put the nozzle partially in, just keep the handle downwards (so the nozzle is aligned with the car's filler-neck) and find the sweet spot where the AdBlue flows with no cut out.

For 69p/litre it's worth the modest effort.

[efcbluepete]

decent advice, thanks @roystonford .

my 1500 mile warning came on at about the same mileage as yours (got the car ex-demo, so was only about 4 weeks into owning it). phoned and asked what it was about, and they "filled it" up FOC.

just got past 11k miles, and the warning came on again! either I have a leaky adblue tank, or the dealer didn't actually "fill" the adblue tank. it is in next week for something on the steering wheel height/rake adjustment, so have asked for them to look into whether the adblue may be leaking.

would it be correct to expect at least 10k miles per adblue fill, and maybe even up nearer 15-20k? what is the tank size?

thanks,

Pete

[johnsimcox]

When I picked up my new A6 a couple of weeks ago the dealer said that he was typically seeing about 9k miles per tank of Adblue but had seen it as low as 6k. I think a lot depends on the type of driving, if you do lots of short trips or heavy traffic I suspect the adblue consumption will be higher than long motorway trips

[Nemo78]

would it be correct to expect at least 10k miles per adblue fill, and maybe even up nearer 15-20k? what is the tank size?

thanks,

Pete

Ours is averaging around 7k -7.5k miles per fill (two done now)

[efcbluepete]

ok, so just dug out the manual for my late 2014 A6 2.0 TDi Ultra, and here goes with some numbers.

Tank is approx 17 litre

must refill with a min of 5.7 litre for the tank to recognise a refill has happened

expected usage is 0.5-1.2% of diesel consumption


my rough guesstimates show that approx 6 litres at 45mpg should last between 7k & 12k miles

by this measure, when the Dealer "filled" mine up, they put the bare minimum 5.7 litres in.

about to go try to fill it up properly at a motorway service station, so will advise on how that goes when I get back...


Pete

[Nemo78]

ok, so just dug out the manual for my late 2014 A6 2.0 TDi Ultra, and here goes with some numbers.

Tank is approx 17 litre

must refill with a min of 5.7 litre for the tank to recognise a refill has happened

expected usage is 0.5-1.2% of diesel consumption


my rough guesstimates show that approx 6 litres at 45mpg should last between 7k & 12k miles

by this measure, when the Dealer "filled" mine up, they put the bare minimum 5.7 litres in.

about to go try to fill it up properly at a motorway service station, so will advise on how that goes when I get back...


Pete

How did you get on Pete?

[efcbluepete]

went to "Lymm Truckstop" based on the find adblue website saying that general public access is available. went to the forecourt and couldnt find an adblue pump, so just bought a 10 litre vessel with pouring spout (flexi spout in in the package) for £16 and emptied the 10 litre into the adblue tank.

I think I took a wrong turn in the service station and should have just followed the signs for lorries - lesson learned there!

word of warning - the spout it comes with does not seal very well on the vessl, and I think I may have lost upto 1/2 a litre in drip/spill, so you will need some ptfe tape or similar to ensure you don't get similar spillage using this method.

word of warning 2 - always cover beneath the filler cap area with a plastic bag or similar, the stuff des tend to stay on your paintwork (despite me using a baby wipe immediately after refilling).

I guess £1.60/litre is not the best price for this stuff, but I was at the red triangle phase, so just went with it to keep me moving.

[GrolschUK]

I tried filling up using the pump at East Midlands Airport/M1 service station.

Looks like the nozzle has some kind of sensor in, as nothing I did (and the attendant even came out to have a go) could get the adblue to flow.
Anyone else come across this before and know where I was going wrong?

69p/l is loads better than 169p

[A6S]

The flow is much faster at the truck stops as they take hundreds of litres at a time. Need to gently squeeze the trigger.
I got the genuine vag filler hose and that screws in a 10 litre jug and the other end screws into the car so no spillage. Been getting the 10 litres from shell petrol station for £10. Not quite 69p/l though.
My 1500 mile light just came on and by my calculation it's closer to 6k for me between fills. I brimmed it last time so it's not me partly filling it. Maybe a leak somewhere.

[GrolschUK]

I think it is going to be a 10l job when my time comes, good thing I decided on experimenting before it got vital :)

I don't think anything was flowing, even out of the car and pulling the trigger, nothing kicked into life... so pretty sure there is some kind of insertion check on the nozzle itself that a lorry will trigger, but a car does not.

[Royston Ford]

I only had to breathe on the filler handle, anything more active would stop the flow. A more sensitive back flow sensor would probably blow you out the water. That said, if I can find 10ltrs for £10, I won't be messing about at the truck pumps again.

[Greedy]

Has anyone tried these? Seem to be an adaptor from Germany that you put on the adblue nozzle to accept a Pump Nozzle for Adblue.

AdBlue tank adapter for Befuellung an Gas stations Fuel dispensers For Audi / VW | eBay (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AdBlue-tank-adapter-for-Befuellung-an-Gas-stations-Fuel-dispensers-For-Audi-VW-/321852795848?hash=item4aefebebc8)

[Rower1978]

I only had to breathe on the filler handle, anything more active would stop the flow. A more sensitive back flow sensor would probably blow you out the water. That said, if I can find 10ltrs for £10, I won't be messing about at the truck pumps again.

I had exactly the same problem, took an age to fill my adblue tank - the slightest pressure on the filler handle and it would stop. Got there in the end though, albeit it must have taken nearly 20min for me to fill the tank. This is my second refill. 1st refill I used a 20l container purchased off ebay for about £20 which was very fiddly, and this time used the pump - 69p/litre and must have put in about 15 litres, so only a tenner. I've just ticked over 14000, and can safely say the adblue tank will do an average of 7000 miles between fills. I havent let it go right down, had a range of about 700 miles left.

[MarkTM]

Not sure if mentioned earlier in this thread but you can check the fill levels of Adblue with VCDS.

Found it by accident about 2 mins into this video

How to refill the Adblue fluid on a VW Passat TDI diesel (diesel exhaust fluid) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h9hWlvg6sM)

[St3veM]

Could you buy one of the 10L containers initially and then re-fill that at an Adblue service station?

[GrolschUK]

The thing is, even waving the pump around, not inserted into anything, and pulling the lever, nothing came out... Is the backflow sensor that sensitive? I'd have thought with no air pressure in open space, it would have wanted to flood the bay... So filling a 10L tub wouldn't do a lot at the place I tried - although could very well work at the pumps that seems to offer some kind of service (where are they based?)

[MC09PJC]

Adblue warning has come on 1500 miles to go.
Bought the car with 5200 miles on it and the warning was on during the test drive. Audi topped it up and reset the warning before collecting it... Now at 12100 miles and its returned.
Q1... I've drove the car in dynamic all the time I've had it and have done some 7000 miles.
Does driving it in economic mode use more adblue, if so why ?
Q2... Thought there was enough adblue to last an average of one year, ie service to service.
Q3... It's due its first years service beginning of November, should it be topped up and reset as part of the service or will I be charged extra for it.

Thx

[johnsimcox]

Adblue warning has come on 1500 miles to go.
Bought the car with 5200 miles on it and the warning was on during the test drive. Audi topped it up and reset the warning before collecting it... Now at 12100 miles and its returned.
Q1... I've drove the car in dynamic all the time I've had it and have done some 7000 miles.
Does driving it in economic mode use more adblue, if so why ?
Q2... Thought there was enough adblue to last an average of one year, ie service to service.
Q3... It's due its first years service beginning of November, should it be topped up and reset as part of the service or will I be charged extra for it.

Thx


Real world experience reported hear and elsewhere suggests the Adblue lasts between 6-8k miles. When I picked up my Ultra these values were confirmed by the dealer and he asked me to let him know how long it lasted on my car so he couldbuild on his knowledge. Don't think the drive mode makes any difference.
One of the theories put about behind the US emissions scandal is that VW were claiming a "service to service" range for the Adblue meaning that in the real world they were using less Adblue than they should to ensure this claim held true but during the test process they had to boost the Adblue to pass the test. No idea if it is true or not.
Pretty sure you will be charged for the top-up at service as it is no different to oil. Probably would be included if you were on some sort of service plan. You can do the top up yourself (and save a lot of money). Adblue can be purchased via sources such as Amazon or eBay for a fraction of the cost of the bottles on a forecourt or getting y our dealer to do it. Alternatively some petrol forecourts have Adblue dispensers but these are mainly designed for lorries so the flow rate can be too aggressive for a car.

[St3veM]

So to add to the list; car is just shy of 5k miles and had the 1500 mile warning ping up tonight, so ~6.5k on a tank of ad blue for me.

Did anyone have any luck filling from one of the pumps on a forecourt?


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[GrolschUK]

I tried the forecourt route, and managed to get 37p dispensed before giving up and buying a 10L bottle, which even with a hose that is included, proceeded to go everywhere.

For the hassle, I'll probably pay the dealer to fill next time and get a valet and cuppa while waiting.

[St3veM]

So Audi sent me a complementary voucher a month or so after I purchased the car and couldn't find a use for it and it was a use it or loose it type voucher.....so AdBlue warning pings up and tada!

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[robes401]

Just check the use by date as I've had some adblue with relatively short expiry. That said I assume if kept in a dry cool dark place it should be fine.

[St3veM]

Thanks for the tip [emoji2]


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[Nemo78]

Silly question & an answer I'm sure in the manual....what's the capacity of the tank? Also how do you know when the tank is full?

[St3veM]

About 17L. It stopped glugging and I then just let the excess in the hose run back into the container and unscrewed both ends once it was back in.


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[A6S]

Hi guys
A lot of the posts in this thread has been about topping ad blue in the 190 ultra.
Has anyone been filling the 272? What's the usage like? I was getting around 6-7k between ad blue fills in my ultra, should I expect the same out of the 272 or more? Logic in my head thinks it should use more as it's burning more fuel.
Cheers

[burningoil]

The Mrs has an A6 Ultra 190 Steptronic bought new March 2015. Saloon. Its just done 5,000 miles and consumed 10 litres of ADBLUE so far. Mixed driving but not huge amount of motorway miles. Great gearbox - much better than the heap of cr*p DSG in my 2015 Golf (jerky and poor fuel consumption )

[KevinA6]

I just topped mine up yesterday for the second time in 16,000 Kms. The First time had it filled at Audi dealer , cost me €38.00. Filled it myself this time at local filling station where they have an adblue pump only cost me €9.40!!!


Kevin

[A6S]

The Mrs has an A6 Ultra 190 Steptronic bought new March 2015. Saloon. Its just done 5,000 miles and consumed 10 litres of ADBLUE so far. Mixed driving but not huge amount of motorway miles. Great gearbox - much better than the heap of cr*p DSG in my 2015 Golf (jerky and poor fuel consumption )
Is it not the same dsg box? Thought vag used the same dsg box across all marques

[KevinA6]

Is it not the same dsg box? Thought vag used the same dsg box across all marques

Same but probably different software running it.

I had 2 dsg gti's in the past and I would say the response from those gearboxes was better than the one in my A6. Sportier setup I'd say.


Kevin

[Daniel44]

Just added Add Blue for the first time. 9000 miles and it took approx 15 litres. Do I have to wait for the warning message to come on again before adding more, as I have about 5 litres left in the container? Want to get rid of it, rather than having it sit around in the garage, so thought about using the rest up once car has covered say another 3000 miles.

[A6S]

Just shove it in. It should be like fuel so you don't have to wait for warning.
There's a sensor somewhere to figure out if it's getting empty so won't do harm if you top up half way. In vcds there's a way to tell how much is left

[KevinA6]

Pity you can't check the levels through the mmi


Kevin

[Akash]

Pity you can't check the levels through the mmi


Kevin

So how do you check then?
I have to say I've completely ignored the adblue "tank" on the assumption it would tell me when its due but if this is not the case...
or is it a case of RTM in which case I'll pop out shortly and grab it

[St3veM]

You will get a warning on the DIS when the level is getting low / 1500 miles worth of AdBlue left. Will continue warning until you add fluid. Believe it will stop the engine being started at some point if the level gets too low.


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[Goatistuta]

I've just had another Adblue warning appear. The car has done around 15K miles since new and this will be the third 10l top up I'll have done since the first warning appeared at around 7K miles. This seems like quite a high rate of consumption but I'd be interested to hear if it's out of the ordinary?


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[Rower1978]

I've just had another Adblue warning appear. The car has done around 15K miles since new and this will be the third 10l top up I'll have done since the first warning appeared at around 7K miles. This seems like quite a high rate of consumption but I'd be interested to hear if it's out of the ordinary?


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I've just done my 3rd top up at 21k. Warning has come bang on every 7k for me so far. Topped tank up at local garage adblue pump for £10.

[KevinA6]

I've just done my 3rd top up at 21k. Warning has come bang on every 7k for me so far. Topped tank up at local garage adblue pump for £10.

Mine is coming on around every 8k kilometres


Kevin

[Rower1978]

Mine is coming on around every 8k kilometres


Kevin

To be clear, every 7k miles for me.

[KevinA6]

That's a fair variance. Are you doing a lot of longer trips


Kevin

[johnsimcox]

I've just had another Adblue warning appear. The car has done around 15K miles since new and this will be the third 10l top up I'll have done since the first warning appeared at around 7K miles. This seems like quite a high rate of consumption but I'd be interested to hear if it's out of the ordinary?


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If you are only adding 10 litres following the warning you are probably not filling it tot the top each time. I understand that the tank is 17litres and from looking at a variety of posts here and elsewhere it would seem that the system consumes about 1 litre for every 500 miles. If the warning comes on with 1500 miles remaining then that means a refill will likely be 14 litres and should give about 7000 miles, subject to variation if you do lot of short journeys or lots of long motorway trips. My own car is now at 4700 miles so will be interesting to see when I get the warning and how much it takes to refill

[isleaiw]

on my 3 litre, the first warning has just appeared at 6k miles. It is really going to irk me if I have to fill up too often between services.... For information most of my journeys have been motorway (I would say in excess of 60% of the mileage done on motorways!)

Ian

[whitter45]

I was told that consumption is not related to type of journeys or how you drive the car

Its a fixed pulse rate into the exhaust system from what I was told

[johnsimcox]

Interesting to see a Shell petrol station near Hanover Airport yesterday advertising the price of Adblue (€0.56 per Litre) on the big display board outside alongside the prices for the various types of petrol, LPG and diesel. Wonder when we will start to see that here?

[Greedy]

Bought my car with 7200 miles on it so asked about AdBlue top-up and was informed it had just been done as the warning was on when the car came in - now 3500 later the warning is no so guessing is was just a small top up that was done. Local dealer has quoted £1.50 a litre - taking the 1ltr/500mile rate then it should need 14-15 litres so less than £25 - think I'll let them do it while I have a coffee - £25 for the re-fill, an inspection and a wash/vac seems reasonable to me. was looking for something to do with my remaining leave between now and Xmas.!!!

[Whippy53]

Not an unreasonable thing to do, particularly if the receptionist is as OK as the one in my dealer! Almost worth it for that alone. (But then I'm a sad brass stud sometimes)

[Greedy]

Did exactly as planned - with a 900 mile range left I popped in - £26 later they managed to get over 20 litre in - according to the dealer it will take 24 if empty. He also mentioned that they tend to use more when they are new which might explain the second refill at 11k. Including the free coffee and wash I'm happy with money well spent. A colleague also mentioned that the local VW dealer only provide the AdBlue and you have to put it in your self - or pay labour - but Audi added it too for no labour charge.

I also had a chat with the parts manager who turned out to be an old friend, he told me the dealer now sell the filler nozzle for about£7 so that you can use the forecourt AdBlue pumps.

[Rower1978]

Did exactly as planned - with a 900 mile range left I popped in - £26 later they managed to get over 20 litre in - according to the dealer it will take 24 if empty. He also mentioned that they tend to use more when they are new which might explain the second refill at 11k. Including the free coffee and wash I'm happy with money well spent. A colleague also mentioned that the local VW dealer only provide the AdBlue and you have to put it in your self - or pay labour - but Audi added it too for no labour charge.

I also had a chat with the parts manager who turned out to be an old friend, he told me the dealer now sell the filler nozzle for about£7 so that you can use the forecourt AdBlue pumps.

Filled mine up last night (on 600mile warning) at local garage via adblue pump. £10.87 all in. Max capacity of tank is 17l. 3rd time I've filled up, warning has come on ecactky every 7k miles for me.

[A6ian]

Filled mine up last night (on 600mile warning) at local garage via adblue pump. £10.87 all in. Max capacity of tank is 17l. 3rd time I've filled up, warning has come on ecactky every 7k miles for me.
Did you use an adaptor? or did the pump nozzle fit without?

[KevinA6]

Did you use an adaptor? or did the pump nozzle fit without?

I have filled using just the pump nozzle but it took ages to fill.


Kevin

[Rower1978]

Did you use an adaptor? or did the pump nozzle fit without?

No just used the HGV adblue pump which took me about 30min to fill up! Very frustrating as the pump is super sensitive, only need to apply a fraction too much pressure on the handle and it cuts out. Need to invest in an adaptor nozzle. Can anyone recommend where to get one online? Cheers.

[KevinA6]

No just used the HGV adblue pump which took me about 30min to fill up! Very frustrating as the pump is super sensitive, only need to apply a fraction too much pressure on the handle and it cuts out. Need to invest in an adaptor nozzle. Can anyone recommend where to get one online? Cheers.

I had same experience. Very slow to fill. Does anyone know if Audi do one?


Kevin

[johnsimcox]

1500 mile warning came on at 5900 miles. Only pump option nearby is an HGV pump at Heathrow and with better things to do than spend 30 mins on a cold wet forecourt trying to fill the tank, bought 2x10l from Eurocarparts. Paid just under £30 (did a search and found an 11% discount code over the already discounted price for January). Containers came with a flexible hose connector so very easy to add it. Reading the details on the container it states that when sealed they have an 18 month shelf life, but this is much reduced once open so decided to just add 10l. Also avoided the risk of overfilling it and spilling Adblue over the paintwork. Will add the other 10l when the warning next comes on. Took about 5 mins to do and whilst the forecourt (and it seems for some an Audi dealer may have been cheaper, it would not have been so convenient or quick

[phope74]

Being the original poster, I've kept an eye on this thread from time to time

Our A6 is now around 18 months old, with circa 24k miles, much of it in the 1st twelve months of ownership - with another car in the household after that, usage of the A6 has decreased, whilst I put more miles on my company Golf

We're now on the 3rd fill up (topped up last weekend) so in my experience, regardless of driving pattern, the tank seems to need filled every 7-8k miles

[Mr_Rossy]

Our 2015 190 Ultra has just hit 11400 miles and we've used the full tank from Audi's delivery and I've put 20L in total in. I suspect we'll be back on the warning light within 2000 miles. I don't think this is right to be honest, my car will have seen the best part of 40L in 13k. Its going to Audi on Wednesday for a "Steering System Failure" and I've asked for an investigation into this also.

I've really disappointed with the fuel economy, we're getting 40mph on a short / country drive and long term average of 49mpg. I actually choose this car based on the economy over others like a Discovery!

[Nemo78]

Our 2015 190 Ultra has just hit 11400 miles and we've used the full tank from Audi's delivery and I've put 20L in total in. I suspect we'll be back on the warning light within 2000 miles. I don't think this is right to be honest, my car will have seen the best part of 40L in 13k. Its going to Audi on Wednesday for a "Steering System Failure" and I've asked for an investigation into this also.

I've really disappointed with the fuel economy, we're getting 40mph on a short / country drive and long term average of 49mpg. I actually choose this car based on the economy over others like a Discovery!

Getting 11k from the AdBlue tank I think is very good - we have only averaged 7k in the two fill ups we have had to do so far.

If you've put in 20l (if I've read that right) you will be fine for a good few thousand miles and not 2k (but I may have misinterpreted that)

The cars usage of AdBlue is meant to get better as time goes on as I've been told...

It's better than what the new Q7s are currently averaging C.3.5-4K miles per full up

[Mr_Rossy]

Yeah sorry I wasn't clear, we've used 40L in under 12000miles

[johnsimcox]

Yeah sorry I wasn't clear, we've used 40L in under 12000miles
Which seems a typical run rate for most who have reported usage, also we do not know whether Audi actually fill the tank to full at the factory/dealer which may explain the "it gets better over time comments"

Interested to see that at the Toddington Services on the M1 they were selling 10l containers of Adblue for £15.99 which is on a par with EuroCarParts and clearly not subject to the usual "think of a big number and double it" pricing strategy of most motorway service stations

Not sure what fuel consumption you were expecting but given the A6 is a big car and the 2.0l engine on the small side you are getting reasonably good (in my opinion) consumption and certainly better than a Discovery would have given you. On a steady (70ish) motorway run I will get somewhere around 55mpg and maybe higher if it is a 200+mile trip. General driving around country roads and into London I will get between 39 and 45 with temperature, traffic and whether the car is doing a regeneration all having an impact. After 6500 miles I have an average (via the DIS) of 44.74 which is better than the non-ultra I had before

[kennyh]

Guys,

I really can't see what all the fuss is around adding Adblue!

I did a top up today and it was just as easy as topping up the washer bottle, and took no more than 5 mins to do.

I bought a 10L can from BP petrol station for £11. Added the supplied nozzle, open cap, poured. Easy.

And as far as cost goes, that works out at £0.0024 per mile (assuming 7k between top up). That's not going to break the bank considering you've spend a good wedge on your A6 / A7.

I think it's time to put this issue to bed!!

[johnsimcox]

Guys,

I really can't see what all the fuss is around adding Adblue!

I did a top up today and it was just as easy as topping up the washer bottle, and took no more than 5 mins to do.

I bought a 10L can from BP petrol station for £11. Added the supplied nozzle, open cap, poured. Easy.

And as far as cost goes, that works out at £0.0024 per mile (assuming 7k between top up). That's not going to break the bank considering you've spend a good wedge on your A6 / A7.

I think it's time to put this issue to bed!!
Quite agree regarding the fuss around Adblue, it is just a part of motoring in the 21st century, like adding screenwash, and Audi are no different to almost any other manufacturer in needing you to add adblue if you have a large capacity (2.0l+) diesel.

I doubt you will get 7k out of your 10l top up (which at £11 is a very good price btw), probably be closer to 5k as I believe the tank is 17l and from my own experience assuming the tank was full from the factory then the warning came on when the tank had 20% capacity left that would mean 13.6l had been used so with 10l added you will likely get the warning again after another 5k miles

[kennyh]

Yes, you're right 10L will probably not do 7k.

I did however base my Calc on 15L for 7k (or so) so the number still stack up, circa £0.0024 per mile.

Not worth moaning about the price for Adblue as far as I'm concerned (you'll spend a LOT more of various car washes, waxes, glass cleaners etc I'm sure).

Time to move on.

[A6S]

my local Tesco is selling redex branded adblue for £2.50 for 1.5litres for those who don't want to mess about with the 10l drums.
It's a clearance thing so won't last long. Used to be £15 😄

[A6ian]

1500 mile Adblue warning came on at 5500miles, filled up about 50 miles into it, at BP Wooley Edge services on HGV pump. It took just under 14 litres at 84.9p PL. Although the pump initially needs some patience to get a steady flow, it's not really too bad, took about 5 mins. Only cost me £11.88 to fill.

Not really a big issue, and at .002p per mile the extra cost is not really worth worrying about.

[loz65]

1500 mile Adblue warning came on at 5500miles, filled up about 50 miles into it, at BP Wooley Edge services on HGV pump. It took just under 14 litres at 84.9p PL. Although the pump initially needs some patience to get a steady flow, it's not really too bad, took about 5 mins. Only cost me £11.88 to fill.

Not really a big issue, and at .002p per mile the extra cost is not really worth worrying about.

Thanks for the info A6ian - Looks like there's a filling stations within 5 miles of where I am, so will give this a go when the time comes. Did you have to use any sort of funnel or does the HGV pump slot straight in to the car?

I assume the pumps are pretty much the same at the different filling stations? This one's Shell.

[A6ian]

It just slotted in as it was, all I needed was a 17mm socket to remove the cap, so that I didn't have to mess about getting the wheel brace out.

The pump was Air1 http://uk.air1.info/en/adblue-supply/adblue-filling/default.aspx (http://uk.air1.info/en/adblue-supply/adblue-filling/default.aspx)but I think they're much of a muchness. At first it seems that it wont work as you need the lightest of touch but once you get the feel it's plain sailing.

[hshah]

The 1500 warning popped up on my A6 yesterday (bought it new in July 2015 and have done around 8500 miles). Should I take it to Audi to get done or look elsewhere?

[johnsimcox]

The 1500 warning popped up on my A6 yesterday (bought it new in July 2015 and have done around 8500 miles). Should I take it to Audi to get done or look elsewhere?
If you want someone to do it for you then probably best to go to Audi. If you are happy to do it yourself then either use a forecourt pump but be prepared for it take a bit of time or buy a 10 litre container of Adblue available from some forecourts but also from Amazon and the likes of Eurocarparts and do it yourself. I did the later and when needed the next time I will refill the 10 litre container from a forecourt pump and thus hopefully save money and time.

[St3veM]

If anyone is near Tamworth and needs some; I have 3 x 10l containers that I won't use before its expiry in Aug.


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[johnsimcox]

Adblue warning came on this morning for the second time. The car has done 4700 since I added 10l of Adblue so it looks as if the car consumes 1 litre of Adblue for every 470 miles

[A6S]

That's about right. I got about 7500 miles per 17 litres in my ultra.

[berlintaxi]

That's about right. I got about 7500 miles per 17 litres in my ultra.

Same here, bit of a pain when they sell it in 20 litre containers.

[A6S]

I just use the 10L. Got the genuine vag hose for adblue and it doesn't fit the 20L

[johnsimcox]

EuroCarParts sell it in 10l containers as do some BP garages. Plan now is to hang on to the empty container and then refill it as required at a garage that has a pump dispenser which should save money and avoid the issue of the pump flow rate being designed for lorries

[A6S]

That's a great idea. Just need to find a garage near me that has it on pump.
At the moment it's been £11 for 10 litres so not too bad

[robes401]

I just use the 10L. Got the genuine vag hose for adblue and it doesn't fit the 20L

Is the genuine hose good? The ones that come with the containers all seem to be rubbish and either don't seal well or pour well or both!

[Nemo78]

I bought hose and AdBlue earlier this week from Audi...ill let you know how good the hose is on the wkend all being well

[A6S]

The hose is pretty good. Think of it as a fancy siphon hose. Get them on eBay for £10-15
Screws in and seals on the car end and the other end fits 5l and 10l containers. It doesn't fit the 20l, found out the hard way.
Only problem I found was the last 10l I bought the plastic container was some crappy soft plastic so it wouldn't seal 100% to the hose but all the other 10l I've had has been a good fit

[A6S]

Genuine VW AUDI SEAT SKODA AdBlue Filling Hose for 5L and 10L Containers A4 A6 | eBay (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-VW-AUDI-SEAT-SKODA-AdBlue-Filling-Hose-for-5L-and-10L-Containers-A4-A6-/162047224845?hash=item25bac46c0d:g:HngAAOSwZtJW8rJ S)
this is from a dealer, well worth the tenner;-)

[Nemo78]

Genuine VW AUDI SEAT SKODA AdBlue Filling Hose for 5L and 10L Containers A4 A6 | eBay (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-VW-AUDI-SEAT-SKODA-AdBlue-Filling-Hose-for-5L-and-10L-Containers-A4-A6-/162047224845?hash=item25bac46c0d:g:HngAAOSwZtJW8rJ S)
this is from a dealer, well worth the tenner;-)

Just check price with your dealers pre eBay...I got mine for £8.something [emoji1360]

[A6S]

Just some advice. Screw in the car and bottle end and leave bottle upside down on top of wheelie bin and it come back in 10 minutes.

[Nemo78]

Just some advice. Screw in the car and bottle end and leave bottle upside down on top of wheelie bin and it come back in 10 minutes.

Silly question but when the tank is full I presume that's it...no overfill/spill occurs?

Also checked the invoice and hose was £6.60 exc VAT so just under £8 from dealer

[A6S]

Once it's full its stops flowing. It's quite slow, you can speed it up by giving the bottle a little squeeze. The only time you will get some spillage is when you remove the hose from the car. There's a straw like bit in the middle of the hose that has a few drops in it. If you take it out slowly it doesn't drip.
Im just filling 10l at a time now so I know it will take it all rather than guessing when it's gonna stop. Only done 1 fill on my 272 so far but in my ultra I started filling it full every time but always had 3-5 litres left from 2 10l containers. Ad blue has a short shelf life as well so thought just do 10 every time. Gets about 4500 miles instead of 7500.
My dealer is now doing it for £1.50 per litre(10l is about £11)so if it's timed at the same time as service I will probably to get them to do it for pure laziness sake.

[robes401]

Thanks for the advice re the genuine Audi filler tube. Bought one and used it this evening and am very pleased with it. Takes much longer to fill than the filler tubes that come with the bottles, but as you say just screw it in at both ends and leave it on a wheelie bin to fill in its own time. No hassle or spillage.

[ExJagAnd Merc]

Anyone know what the shelf life of this product is please - the genuine VAG that is?

[St3veM]

I picked up some on 31st October 15 and it was dated Aug 16 so assuming it's been sat in the storage for a little while I would assume 12 months or so. HTH.


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[Nemo78]

Mines dated April '17 and I bought it couple weeks ago

[ExJagAnd Merc]

Thanks for replies. I'm new to AdBlue, so I was thinking of getting a 10L bottle to keep by, but as a low mileage driver don't really know at this stage when, or indeed if, I may need to top it up, so it could be sitting around for some time. My service indicator on the car is showing well over a year to the car's first service (Audi A8, coming up for 12 months old, coming up for 4,000 on the clock) I was prompted to think about it by seeing a flash advert. on Ebay advertising as a special price a 10L container of VAG for £21 with free delivery - from an Audi dealership. Having read the posts in this thread, that seems a bit steep for genuine VW/Audi AdBlue. With stuff like that I like to stick to the genuine article; wouldn't want to spoil a 70 grand ship for a ha'porth of tar, but won't be ripped off.

What does anyone think re the branding of this stuff?

"A specific quality and high purity of water is used for AdBlue to avoid all contamination. Using out of specification water in the production of AdBlue is probably the greatest threat to your catalyst, and therefore your vehicle, so it is essential to purchase from a supplier who produces AdBlue to the global ISO specification. Only buy a product that bears the name AdBlue, manufactured according to the ISO 22241 standard. SCR systems with which AdBlue is used are very sensitive to potential chemical impurities that can contaminate the urea solution. Even small amounts of impurities can dramatically damage your SCR catalyst performance. Using a quality product will avoid the high costs of having to replace a damaged catalyst."