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staffop1
06-07-2014, 03:47 PM
Can't work this one out.
I started having problems with my key fob where it wouldn't open the central locking (It would still lock it every time) I resorted to opening the car with the key in the lock until recently where a couple of times I noticed when I put the key in the ignition it wouldn't start the car.
I checked the battery in the key fob and sure enough it was getting low so I replaced it. Unfortunately it hasn't solved the problem and I still cannot start the car, I also tried with the other key fob (which normally works) and now both won't start the car... HELP !! :zx11:

MarkTM
06-07-2014, 03:59 PM
A simple and easy google search found these immediately:

AudiWorld Tech Articles (http://www.audiworld.com/tech/misc13.shtml)

DIY: How to program your Audi flip key fob. (http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/428047-How-to-program-your-Audi-flip-key-fob)

Dunno if these work but proves that google can be your friend! :biglaugh:

staffop1
06-07-2014, 04:09 PM
Hmm, tried both of these and now both keys don't work and I get a 'Component Protection' message on the dash ' The availability of the infotainment system is currently limited'
Google is definitely not my friend today :aargh4:

MarkTM
06-07-2014, 04:13 PM
I didn't think CP applied to the keys...so learnt sommat new.

Do you have VCDS..or know who has it...as I may have said before 'middle of nowhere' as a location means now't to me.

Alan02
06-07-2014, 04:33 PM
Does the component protection come on for a flat battery? Not sure, but I do know that the battery management can shut down components to preserve battery capacity.Maybe worth checking the voltage...12.5 fully charged.

staffop1
06-07-2014, 04:55 PM
12.1v on the multimeter with the doors closed. Can the Component Protection message be cleared with VCDS ?
Both keys seem to open and close central locking ok at the moment but neither key will start the car when the ignition is turned.

Guest 2
06-07-2014, 05:06 PM
Get the car scanned for faults!!

staffop1
06-07-2014, 06:34 PM
Car is a sitting duck, so reluctantly purchased VCDS. I was hoping to hold back till VCDS Mobile came along but this car is causing me grief.
Can the Component protection message be cleared with VCDS?

dan2485
06-07-2014, 06:56 PM
No component protection cannot be removed or cleared using VCDS.

You will need to get the Fault scan done to find out which item is causing the fault and then Audi or a good specialist is needed.

No one will be allowed to post any other ways of sorting this out due to this being a car security issue.

staffop1
08-07-2014, 08:39 PM
Here is the VCDS scan :confused:

VCDS Version: Release 12.12.2 (x64)
Data version: 20140212


Tuesday,08,July,2014,20:31:37:50677


Chassis Type: 4F0
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 0E 15 16 17 19 42 46 4F 52 53 55 56 5F 62
72


Mileage: 161550km/100382miles


01-Engine -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
02-Auto Trans -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
04-Steering Angle -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
0E-Media Player 1 -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
55-Xenon Range -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. Labels: 4F0-910-852.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 910 852 B HW: 4F0 905 852 D
Component: FBSAUDIC6 ELV H05 0100
Revision: 00H05000 Serial number: 10602601409590
Coding: 0000147
Shop #: WSC 02323 785 00200
VCID: 2541EB72EC24F336C81-8070


Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 910 132 E
Component: FBSAUDIC6 EZS H03 0020


Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4F0 910 220 D
Component: FBSAUDIC6 IDG H01 0054


1 Fault Found:
00576 - Terminal 15
009 - Open or Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01111001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 4
Reset counter: 34
Mileage: 161293 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.06.22
Time: 12:06:50




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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 4F0-910-043.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 043 B HW: 4F2 820 043 T
Component: KLIMABETAETIGUNGH30 0080
Revision: 00000074 Serial number: 00000000665974
Coding: 0001300
Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
VCID: 1D31C392C4743BF6901-8048


5 Faults Found:
01273 - Fresh Air Blower (V2)
009 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101001
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 149
Reset counter: 74
Mileage: 159621 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.05.16
Time: 18:48:46


Freeze Frame:
Temperature: 36.0°C
Speed: 6.0 km/h
(no units): 34.0
(no units): 217.0


00256 - A/C Pressure/Temperature Sensor (G395)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 69
Mileage: 161261 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.06.21
Time: 12:44:08


01592 - Air Quality Sensor (G238)
010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101010
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 69
Mileage: 161261 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.06.21
Time: 12:44:08


Freeze Frame:
Temperature: 40.0°C


01321 - Control Module for Airbags (J234)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 69
Mileage: 161261 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.06.21
Time: 12:44:11


Freeze Frame:
ON


01206 - Signal for Duration of Ignition Off Time
008 - Implausible Signal
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 69
Mileage: 161261 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.06.21
Time: 12:44:11




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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 4F0-910-279.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 279 R HW: 4F0 907 279
Component: ILM Fahrer H24 0340
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 4F0907279
Coding: 0003121
Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
VCID: 387F32064B967EDE637-806D


Subsystem 1 - Component: Fehler Lin-Slave 01


Subsystem 2 - Component: Fehler Lin-Slave 02


No fault code found.


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Address 0E: Media Player 1 (R41) Labels: 4E0-910-111.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 110 L HW: 4E0 035 110 A
Component: CDC-MP3-Pana H49 0050
Revision: 00000015
VCID: 2149FF62380C1F16B49-8074


No fault code found.


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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels: 4F0-920-xxx-17.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 920 983 G HW: 4F0 920 983 G
Component: KOMBIINSTR. H08 0144
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: CN305F999
Coding: 2F57110502002600010400
Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
VCID: 306F0A2663E6A69E2B7-8065


1 Fault Found:
01321 - Control Module for Airbags (J234)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 69
Mileage: 161261 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.06.21
Time: 12:44:05




-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels: 4F0-907-468.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 907 468 M HW: 4F0 907 468 F
Component: GW-BEM 4CAN-M H06 0035
Revision: LB100029 Serial number: 2900L0990780A0
Coding: 000B03
Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
VCID: 39793702B09C67D69C9-806C


Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 915 181 C HW: 8K0 915 181 C
Component: J367-BDM H07 0107


1 Fault Found:
00576 - Terminal 15
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101000
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 69
Mileage: 161261 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.06.21
Time: 12:44:13


Freeze Frame:
Bin. Bits: 00110
Voltage: 12.50 V
Count: 8




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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II Labels: 4F0-910-280.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 280 HW: 4F0 907 280 A
Component: ILM Beifahrer H13 0100
Revision: Serial number: 00000000658307
Coding: 0001104
Shop #: WSC 02323 785 00200
VCID: DEB3049E09F2E0EE49B-808B


No fault code found.


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Address 56: Radio (R) Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 4F0 035 056 B HW: 4F0 035 056
Component: Radio U STD H45 0020
Revision: AB001007 Serial number: 342IA097677987
Coding: 010003020100000000
Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
VCID: 1F4DF99A0E7829E682D-804A


No fault code found.


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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794) Labels: 4E0-035-6xx-5F.clb
Part No SW: 4E0 035 652 A HW: 4E0 035 652
Component: B-BN-EU H52 0048
Revision: -------- Serial number: 349I-097519050
Coding: 01010101010283EC01000F04EF6300030001
Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
VCID: 1F4DF99A0E7829E682D-804A


Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4G0 919 884 D
Component: EUR 2009/2010 5804


Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 4L0 919 604 HW: 4L0 919 604
Component: DU6 Basic H43 0306


Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 4F0 910 609 E HW: 4F2 919 611 H
Component: Bedienteil MM H01 0060


1 Fault Found:
02095 - Component Protection Active
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 0
Mileage: 0 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.07.06
Time: 16:10:24




End ---------------------------------------------------------------------

Arragonis
08-07-2014, 08:53 PM
Quite a few there - low battery ?

staffop1
08-07-2014, 09:29 PM
The fresh air blower is a pre-existing fault I'm aware of where the fan doesn't always work. From googling that error it looks like an expensive fix as the whole fan unit has to be replaced.
Not sure about the flat battery as it was showing 12.1v on the multimeter when I checked.

Arragonis
08-07-2014, 10:08 PM
It was just a thought, monitoring in case it happens here...

MarkTM
08-07-2014, 10:27 PM
I had half of those showing when my alternator failed...new regulator needed....but my battery was completely dead

Did you save & clear the DTC's several times and were any of them disappearing?

gupsterg
08-07-2014, 11:56 PM
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. Labels: 4F0-910-852.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 910 852 B HW: 4F0 905 852 D
Component: FBSAUDIC6 ELV H05 0100
Revision: 00H05000 Serial number: 10602601409590
Coding: 0000147
Shop #: WSC 02323 785 00200
VCID: 2541EB72EC24F336C81-8070


Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 910 132 E
Component: FBSAUDIC6 EZS H03 0020


Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4F0 910 220 D
Component: FBSAUDIC6 IDG H01 0054


1 Fault Found:
00576 - Terminal 15
009 - Open or Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01111001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 4
Reset counter: 34
Mileage: 161293 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.06.22
Time: 12:06:50




-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels: 4F0-907-468.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 907 468 M HW: 4F0 907 468 F
Component: GW-BEM 4CAN-M H06 0035
Revision: LB100029 Serial number: 2900L0990780A0
Coding: 000B03
Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
VCID: 39793702B09C67D69C9-806C


Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 915 181 C HW: 8K0 915 181 C
Component: J367-BDM H07 0107


1 Fault Found:
00576 - Terminal 15
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101000
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 69
Mileage: 161261 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.06.21
Time: 12:44:13


Freeze Frame:
Bin. Bits: 00110
Voltage: 12.50 V
Count: 8




-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Looking at your scan/symptom you describe concerning gaining entry/starting vehicle my £ is on to investigate J329 Terminal 15 relay.

J329 is Terminal 15 voltage supply relay it is directly linked into J518 Entry and start authorisation control unit plus is part of starter, alternator, starter motor relay circuit diagram.

From what I've looked at it is behind trim where your knee would be when sitting in drivers seat.

staffop1
10-07-2014, 07:56 AM
Couldn't see a J329 relay, this is all I have behind the panel in the footwell.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/10/e2ymy3eg.jpg

I've fully charged the battery just to make sure and also cleared the DTCs but the component protection message is still there on the MMI and in the VCDS scan.

Problem I have is I can't even move the car or take the car out of 'Park', it's completely disabled!

gupsterg
10-07-2014, 10:29 AM
J329 is the SDC code for relay, it will not be printed on relay. If you ask at an Audi dealer parts dept they will supply relay from that code plus cross ref with VIN , etc.

Sorry I should have given you a part number/location on the coupling station, later when by PC will check/post :)

MarkTM
10-07-2014, 11:46 AM
This may be useful

2006 Jetta TDI - Quits for no reason - TDIClub Forums (http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=361207)

Although the J329 is clearly diferent in your car.

gupsterg
10-07-2014, 04:55 PM
@staffop1, may I first start in saying I'm just an owner, I have diddly squat professional experience of VAGS :o .

I'm helping as I hope by helping someone, someone will help me when I have a problem :) .

Now that's out of the way! what have I dug up for you to do some meddling with!

Red line = J329 , green line is same type of relay from what I've viewed, that is supposed to be J360 High heat output relay and is in the circuit engine speed sender, radiator fan control unit, low heat output relay, high heat output relay, radiator fan.

24939

Next some measuring blocks you could view:-

Module 05 MVB 1 Data window 1 , MVB 3 data window 2 , MVB 6 data window 2 , MVB 7 data window 2 , MVB 23 data window 23
Ref Link:- Audi Portal: ECU Diagnostic . Audi A6 4F (2005- ) . Access/Start Auth. J518 (http://www.audi-portal.com/en/diagnostic/ecu_12092.html#1)

Module 19 MVB 001
Ref Link:- Audi Portal: ECU Diagnostic . Audi A6 4F (2005- ) . Gateway J533 (http://www.audi-portal.com/en/diagnostic/ecu_12636.html#1)

Something about the J329 faults, Link:- Audi Portal: ECU Diagnostic . Audi A6 4F (2005- ) . Without address word J329 (http://www.audi-portal.com/en/diagnostic/ecu_11154.html#1)

Now DTC 00576 is explained as :-

VAG Error Code: 00576

Fault Location:
Terminal 15 - Electrical Fault in Circuit/Implausible Signal - Intermittent

Possible Cause:
Power Locks operating at random while driving.
Radio doesn't turn off when key is removed from Ignition.
Battery drain.
No audible confirmation from alarm horn when arming alarm system.
On the Eos, the front windows may drop down a little if rolled up all the way.

Defective Ignition Switch (Electrical Portion).
Wiring harness issue.

Possible Solutions:
Replace the Ignition Switch (Electrical Portion).
Repair damaged wiring harness.

Now I'm hoping by doing MVB's in module 05 you'll be able to see something which tell you that ignition switch is fine.

In the link for J329 faults you will see replace CU, I'm assuming that mean Control Unit, I did storta read up what CU this may relate to but will hold off for now.

After you cleared DTC's did same faults come up? P/N for J329 4H0 951 253 please do double check this with vag dealer.

PS for other DTC's you can use KeithUK's (:You_Rock_ ) great APP Link:- http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?97964-EOBD-II-Error-Codes

staffop1
10-07-2014, 09:44 PM
So this is what comes back from the measuring blocks for Modules 5 & 19:

Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (4F0 910 852 B)


21:34:48 Group 001: Terminal Status
Term 15 Off Status Terminal 15
3.0 (no units)
OFF Status Terminal 75X
Term 50 Off Status Terminal 50


21:34:48 Group 002: Entry and Start Authorisation Buttons
OFF Start Auth. Button (E408) ON
OFF Start Auth. Button (E408) START
OFF Start Auth. Button (E408) STOP
00000000 Door Touch Sensors


21:34:48 Group 003: Ignition Switch (E415) I
ON Status S-Contact
ON Status Terminal 15
OFF Status Terminal 50

Thursday,10,July,2014,21:40:11:50677
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: 12.12.2.0 (x64)
Data version: 20140212


Address 19: CAN Gateway (4F0 907 468 M)


21:39:57 Group 001: Power Supply
0.00 V Voltage (Terminal 15)
11.70 V Voltage (Terminal 30)

Not sure if that tells me the ignition switch is fine or not!, I get no lights on the dashboard turning the key..:confused:

dan2485
10-07-2014, 10:10 PM
Look at this

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh249/dan2485/j329relay1_zpsdc6900bb.jpg (http://s258.photobucket.com/user/dan2485/media/j329relay1_zpsdc6900bb.jpg.html)

Just swap the relay with the other 370 relay to see if the relay has failed.

Post up your engine code and gearbox type so that i look up the correct drawing for your car.

If the relay swap does not give back the instruments then you are looking at a J518 module fault as the relay coil grounds via this module.

If a J518 module fault then dig deep as the post on the net that i have seen quote over £1400 to have replaced, if you handy with tools this maybe less but a trip to Audi or a good specialist is needed for the CP removal.

Dan

staffop1
10-07-2014, 11:11 PM
Holy cr@p that just worked & I saved myself an expensive trip getting towed to the Audi garage! Car started straight away & component protection message has gone.
What does the other 370 relay do? I noticed an ESP msg flash up briefly on the dash.

gupsterg
10-07-2014, 11:23 PM
I just did video for you which was uploading my MVB's showing term 15 on my car has voltage but yours doesn't


What does the other 370 relay do? I noticed an ESP msg flash up briefly on the dash.

That is in post 19 of this thread.


Post up your engine code and gearbox type so that i look up the correct drawing for your car.

I did check his past posts, he has a 2.0 TDi 59 plate PS170


http://youtu.be/NaQcHs4k1YY


Address 19: CAN Gateway (4F0 907 468 M)

21:39:57 Group 001: Power Supply
0.00 V Voltage (Terminal 15)
11.70 V Voltage (Terminal 30)

My MVB 200 in module 19 is same as your MVB 001 in module 19, as my car is 2005 yours 2009, see how you had 0.0v at term 15?


Not sure if that tells me the ignition switch is fine or not!, I get no lights on the dashboard turning the key..http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/confused.png

MVB 23 in module 05 would have shown you that IMO.


If the relay sway does not give back the instruments then you are looking at a J518 module fault as the relay coil grounds via this module.

If a J518 module fault then dig deep as the post on the net that i have seen quote over £1400 to have replaced, if you handy with tools this maybe less but a trip to Audi or a good specialist is needed for the CP removal.

This was what I had been thinking but didn't wanna say as :scared:.


Car started straight away & component protection message has gone.

J518 function is master unit of CP , view ssp 326 page 19, so I think lack of volts term15/J329 was creating message but :dunno: as just an owner!

staffop1
10-07-2014, 11:24 PM
Engine code is CAHA & gearbox LDV btw

dan2485
10-07-2014, 11:25 PM
Don't worry about the other relay just replace it with a new one.

Thank Gups for pointing you towards the relay.

Dan

gupsterg
10-07-2014, 11:28 PM
Holy cr@p that just worked & I saved myself an expensive trip getting towed to the Audi garage! Car started straight away & component protection message has gone.

:grouphug: ..... :fest30: .... I am really glad it has worked for you mate! :) ....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MVonyVSQoM

dan2485
10-07-2014, 11:53 PM
Put the new relay in the J329 position to avoid the other relay failing.
370 relay Part No is 8D0591253.

Buy a new one even though a used one is £3 on ebay if it cost you £20 from Audi then its money well spent.

Dan

gupsterg
10-07-2014, 11:57 PM
Hi Dan,

I put too much content in post 19, but P/N is in there mate.


P/N for J329 4H0 951 253 please do double check this with vag dealer.

ATB
G

dan2485
11-07-2014, 12:02 AM
i just Google searched an Audi 370 relay that's how i got the no, right or wrong?.

Top work to yourself as this could have cost him loads.

Dan

gupsterg
11-07-2014, 12:33 AM
SDC code/VAG descriptors don't work that way from what I've come across, some do others don't, very hit miss.

I'm just glad staffop1 got a good result, if I'd never had such a ball ache of a car I don't think I'd have been on forums! LOL

MarkTM
11-07-2014, 08:55 AM
Gup, does that make you Hannibal or BA?? If the latter you'll need to get down to the barbers!

I love it when a plan comes together! :biglaugh:

gupsterg
11-07-2014, 09:44 AM
More like mad Murdoch! :biglaugh: ...

GTA
18-11-2014, 10:22 PM
Could any body tell me where is terminal 50 relay? Cause when turning key, terminal 50 stays off, car won't start.

mrmule
03-08-2018, 07:35 PM
Hi all. 2006 C6 A6 3.0tdi manual.

This just happened to me. Stranded 100miles from home. Key in the ignition normally audibly disables the steering lock but nothing this time. MMI works, and obviously the door locks but no lights on dash and can’t start engine.

I have no tools with me sadly. Checked all fuses on DS end of dash. The steering wheel was free to turn though, almost as if the steering lock was never on?

First things first, where are said relays please?

boreks
21-12-2020, 11:39 PM
Look at this

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh249/dan2485/j329relay1_zpsdc6900bb.jpg (http://s258.photobucket.com/user/dan2485/media/j329relay1_zpsdc6900bb.jpg.html)

Just swap the relay with the other 370 relay to see if the relay has failed.

Post up your engine code and gearbox type so that i look up the correct drawing for your car.

If the relay swap does not give back the instruments then you are looking at a J518 module fault as the relay coil grounds via this module.

If a J518 module fault then dig deep as the post on the net that i have seen quote over £1400 to have replaced, if you handy with tools this maybe less but a trip to Audi or a good specialist is needed for the CP removal.

Dan

Dan can you please explain all relays what in photo or samebody else ???

dan2485
22-12-2020, 08:35 AM
Which year of car are you looking for? as they change position in the relay carrier, also the engine and gearbox codes would help to get you the correct arrangement for your car.

boreks
22-12-2020, 05:08 PM
Audi A6 (c6) 20007 , bre engine code ,140hp tdi, automatic gearbox. and where is terminal 50 relay .

and so far I found 2 relay in Ecu box,1or 2 relay opposite I believe is glow plug relay ( engine compartment)

1 in bonnet and 7relays what in picture.


Which year of car are you looking for? as they change position in the relay carrier, also the engine and gearbox codes would help to get you the correct arrangement for your car.

boreks
22-12-2020, 05:15 PM
Are you founded ???

boreks
22-12-2020, 05:17 PM
Are you founded where is ?


Could any body tell me where is terminal 50 relay? Cause when turning key, terminal 50 stays off, car won't start.

dan2485
22-12-2020, 07:01 PM
Have you checked the airbag fuse (Battery isolation igniter) on the battery cable for the terminal 50 supply as this may have failed.

The other relay that could cause you issues is the Terminal 75 relay as shown below.
37628

boreks
22-12-2020, 07:31 PM
I was check all relays what in photo all is good and to all coming power . Where is terminal 50 relay
37629

dan2485
22-12-2020, 09:12 PM
watch this

2009 Audi a4 Quattro Won't Start After Small Accident part # 8J0915459 switch off sensor - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=fLZQc9SuAc4)

Have you confirmed that the battery isolator is good?

boreks
22-12-2020, 10:32 PM
37630

watch this

2009 Audi a4 Quattro Won't Start After Small Accident part # 8J0915459 switch off sensor - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=fLZQc9SuAc4)

Have you confirmed that the battery isolator is good?

yes I done what on video nothing help

boreks
22-12-2020, 10:42 PM
I added as well screen shot from scanner

dan2485
23-12-2020, 10:14 AM
Check the 3 strip fuses in the rear fuse box panel, they are the diaganonal postioned ones.

Then check the SB40 fuse, and after that you have a bigger issue.

boreks
23-12-2020, 09:51 PM
Check the 3 strip fuses in the rear fuse box panel, they are the diaganonal postioned ones.

Then check the SB40 fuse, and after that you have a bigger issue.

37632
I was not found in rear fuses box strip fuses or fuses is samewhere hidden ?
i was looking about your mentioned sb40 fuse . I one manual I found vacant. In second I found sb40 on fuse board B 5a -j685-display unit for information display and operating unit control unit and third manual said sb40 on fuse board B 25a - dual tone horn relay,treble tone horn.
what you mean sb40 fuse ?
i was checked driver side and passenger side fuses and rear (bonnet), ecu fuses and of course 3 big fuses under steering wheel all this fuses is ok
in link you can see my Audi
IMG_0157 on Vimeo (https://vimeo.com/494213000)
car battery is ok 12.6v . I put same battery in Mercedes e320 and Audi A4 and cars Started no problem
Audi A6 (c6) 2007 year ,BRE engine code, diesel,140 hp

boreks
23-12-2020, 09:54 PM
37633

dan2485
23-12-2020, 10:50 PM
37634

boreks
26-12-2020, 03:29 PM
37671
i dont have this as you seen in my previous picture i was removed and nothing not have under or near or ...

boreks
26-12-2020, 03:44 PM
Not possible at battery + I have couple red wires37672

dan2485
27-12-2020, 09:44 AM
You have 3 wires, 2 of them are crimped together look at your picture.

http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=37671&d=1608992745

From your video is shows that the ignition side is good, you need to check the battery boost terminals for power and for heat as if hot then this will cause a high resistance and stop the current flowing.

Car Battery issue/Positive terminal (https://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/451509-Car-Battery-issue-Positive-terminal).

Battery Voltages on an A6? (http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php/187303-Battery-Voltages-on-an-A6)

boreks
27-12-2020, 11:30 PM
But terminal 50r relay circuit stays all time off
37676

boreks
27-12-2020, 11:47 PM
Battery wires not hot not in engine compartment and boot .not melted and looks clean and no any signs of corrosion

dan2485
28-12-2020, 03:29 PM
Can you get a VCDS scan done?

boreks
30-12-2020, 03:54 PM
Wednesday,30,December,2020,13:43:37:03954
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
VCDS Version: 20.12.0.1 HEX-V2 CB: 0.4529.4
Data version: 20201125 DS322.1
Ross-Tech: Home (www.Ross-Tech.com)




VIN: WAUZZZ4FX8N049346 License Plate:




Chassis Type: 4F (4L0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 07 08 09 0E 15 16 17 19 1E 37 42 46 47 4F 52 53
56 61 62 72


VIN: WAUZZZ4FX8N049346 Mileage: 342940km-213093miles


00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
07-Control Head -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
0E-Media Player 1 -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
1E-Media Player 2 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine Labels: User\03G-906-016-BRE.lbl
Part No SW: 03G 906 016 MF HW: 03G 906 016 MF
Component: R4 2,0L EDC G000CG 1142
Revision: --H05--- Serial number:
Coding: 0000076
Shop #: WSC 66565 257 00032
VCID: 73B3DB9447B5DFB37E0-8026


2 Faults Found:
006215 - Please check DTC Memory of ABS Controller
P1847 - 000 -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 5
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 342942 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2007.05.16
Time: 12:12:03


Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 12.24 V
Bin. Bits: 00101000
Torque: 0.0 Nm
Bin. Bits: 00000100


012292 - Relay for Low-Output Preheating of Coolant (J359)
P3004 - 000 - Open or Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 342942 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2007.05.16
Time: 12:12:03


Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 12.16 V
Bin. Bits: 00101000
(no units): 0.0
Bin. Bits: 11011100


Readiness: 0 0 1 1 X


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 01J-927-156.lbl
Part No SW: 4F9 910 155 B HW: 01J 927 156 JG
Component: V30 01J 2.0l PD RdW 0010
Revision: --H03--- Serial number: 00000000000311
Coding: 0000001
Shop #: WSC 02325 758 00200
VCID: 2A0D06F0D0FFDE7B0D6-807E


No fault code found.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 4F0-910-517.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 910 517 AC HW: 4F0 614 517 T
Component: ESP8 front H01 0070
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 0020856
Shop #: WSC 02325 758 00200
VCID: 6597B5CCF9613103E04-8030


2 Faults Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100101
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 4
Reset counter: 42
Mileage: 342942 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2007.05.16
Time: 12:12:11


Freeze Frame:
Hex Value: 0x0000
Hex Value: 0x0282
Hex Value: 0x001E
Hex Value: 0x3E97
Hex Value: 0x00FF


01486 - System Function Test Activated
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 3
Reset counter: 42
Mileage: 342942 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2007.05.16
Time: 12:12:15


Freeze Frame:
Hex Value: 0x0000
Hex Value: 0x0282
Hex Value: 0x0021
Hex Value: 0x4197
Hex Value: 0x00FF




-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. Labels:. 4F0-910-852.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 910 852 HW: 4F0 905 852 B
Component: FBSAUDIC6 ELV H31 0230
Revision: 09010701 Serial number: 10601500877733
Coding: 0000019
Shop #: WSC 02323 758 00200
VCID: 6393ABD4F7554F330E0-8036


Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 910 131 E
Component: FBSAUDIC6 EZS H45 0080


Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4F0 910 220 D
Component: FBSAUDIC6 IDG H01 0040


No fault code found.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 07: Control Head Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 4F0 910 769 H HW: 4F0 035 769 B
Component: MMI Cockpit H55 0410
Revision: C61030BE Serial number: AUZ6Z3G95230R1
Coding: 0140002
Shop #: WSC 00370 210 64492
VCID: 323D1E90F82F96BBB56-8066


Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 910 609 E
Component: Bedienteil MMIC6H01 0060


Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 00000000861162


Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0112.09.070000000100010441ÿ


Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 010441ÿ


No fault code found.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 4F0-910-043.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 910 043 A HW: 4F2 820 043 P
Component: KLIMABETAETIGUNGH30 0020
Revision: 00000052 Serial number: 00000000441028
Coding: 0001044
Shop #: WSC 02325 758 00200
VCID: 1C61D0288AAB30CB8FA-8048


No fault code found.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 4F0-910-279.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 279 L HW: 4F0 907 279 B
Component: ILM Fahrer H18 0250
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 4F0907279
Coding: 0000101
Shop #: WSC 02335 758 00200
VCID: 323D1E90F82F96BBB56-8066


Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F2 910 113 B Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer AudiC6 H04 0190
Coding: 00064784
Shop #: WSC 02335


Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4E0 910 557 B Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
Component: REGENLICHTSENSORH13 0100
Coding: 00146221
Shop #: WSC 02335


No fault code found.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 0E: Media Player 1 Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 4F0 910 769 H HW: 4F0 035 769 B
Component: MMI Cockpit H55 0410
Revision: C61030BE Serial number: AUZ6Z3G95230R1
Coding: 0140002
Shop #: WSC 00370 210 64492
VCID: 323D1E90F82F96BBB56-8066


No fault code found.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags Labels: 4F0-910-655-8R.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 910 655 E HW: 4F0 959 655 B
Component: 4E AIRBAG AUDI8RH30 0280
Revision: 09H30000 Serial number: 0037LD0TVUV-
Coding: 0013381
Shop #: WSC 02325 758 00200
VCID: 290FF9FCD5F9D56304C-807C


Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332CSME2E547764A


Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342CSME2E515A234


Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6352QSME3B032915B


Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6362QSME39543261B


Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 63734SME362F34371


Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63834SME3B13160B


No fault code found.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 4F0-910-549.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 549 A HW: 4F0 953 549 D
Component: J0527 0410
Revision: 00H02000 Serial number: 90054072320033
Coding: 0102141
Shop #: WSC 02323 758 00200
VCID: 270BFFC4C3EDE313128-8072


Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: E0221 H02 0030


No fault code found.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments Labels: 4F0-910-xxx-17.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 900 C HW: 4F0 920 951
Component: KOMBIINSTR. M73 H16 0240
Revision: 00200000 Serial number: 64714X497
Coding: 2304458
Shop #: WSC 80093 222 69422
VCID: 2019E4D8A6C3142B532-8074


No fault code found.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels:. 4L0-910-468.clb
Part No SW: 4L0 910 468 A HW: 4L0 907 468 B
Component: J533__Gateway H06 0060
Revision: 00H06000 Serial number: 1100B078318198
Coding: E5519E5770220600
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
VCID: 2D070DECE111C943E84-8078


No fault code found.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 1E: Media Player 2 Labels: 4E0-910-111.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 110 C HW: 4E0 035 110 A
Component: MP3-Changer H46 0350
Revision: 00046006 Serial number: AUZ5ZBG3471047
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 1869CC387E935CEBAB2-804C


No fault code found.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 37: Navigation Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 4F0 910 769 H HW: 4F0 035 769 B
Component: MMI Cockpit H55 0410
Revision: C61030BE Serial number: AUZ6Z3G95230R1
Coding: 0140002
Shop #: WSC 00370 210 64492
VCID: 323D1E90F82F96BBB56-8066


No fault code found.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 4F0-910-793-42.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 793 E HW: 4F0 959 793 E
Component: TSG FA H12 0210
Revision: 00-00000
Coding: 0002586
Shop #: WSC 02327 758 00200
VCID: 2C0100E8DA0BC04BFFA-8078


No fault code found.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv. Labels:. 4F0-910-289.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 289 J HW: 4F0 907 289 J
Component: Komfortgeraet H25 0200
Revision: 02000025 Serial number: 01063816790000
Coding: 0000251
Shop #: WSC 02335 758 00200
VCID: 313F119CFD29ADA3CCC-8064


Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301


Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4F0 910 177
Component: Innenraumueberw.H01 0020


No fault code found.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 47: Sound System (J525) Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 4F0 910 223 K HW: 4F0 035 223 L
Component: Amp.-ASK-RD H07 0250
Revision: S0900000
Coding: 010000
Shop #: WSC 02399 823 56573
VCID: 2615F2C0C8E7FA1B29E-8072


No fault code found.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II Labels: 4F0-910-280.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 280 HW: 4F0 907 280 A
Component: ILM Beifahrer H12 0100
Revision: Serial number: 00000000469859
Coding: 0001104
Shop #: WSC 02323 758 00200
VCID: 5EE59A20DC3762DB21E-800A


No fault code found.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 4F0-910-793-52.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 793 E HW: 4F0 959 792 E
Component: TSG BF H12 0210
Revision: 00-00000
Coding: 0002586
Shop #: WSC 02327 758 00200
VCID: 2C0100E8DA0BC04BFFA-8078


No fault code found.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 53: Parking Brake Labels: 4F0-910-801.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 910 801 C HW: 4F0 907 801 A
Component: EPB CDEC0080 H04 0080
Revision: --H04---
Coding: 0000131
Shop #: WSC 02324 758 00200
VCID: 2019E4D8A6C3142B532-8074


No fault code found.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 4F0 910 769 H HW: 4F0 035 769 B
Component: MMI Cockpit H55 0410
Revision: C61030BE Serial number: AUZ6Z3G95230R1
Coding: 0140002
Shop #: WSC 00370 210 64492
VCID: 323D1E90F82F96BBB56-8066


No fault code found.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 61: Battery Regul. Labels: 4F0-910-181.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 181 E HW: 4F0 915 181 A
Component: J0644 BEM H12 0590
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000135672
Shop #: WSC 00370 210 64492
VCID: 2313EBD4B7D50F334E0-8076


Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 915 105 C
Component: von VA0 2708080328
Coding: 344630393135313035432056413032373038303830333238
Shop #: WSC 00000 384 00290


No fault code found.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 4F0-910-795.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 795 E HW: 4F0 959 795 E
Component: TSG HL H21 0210
Coding: 0002050
Shop #: WSC 02327 758 00200
VCID: 2E050AE0EC17B25BD1E-807A


No fault code found.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 4F0-910-795.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 795 E HW: 4F0 959 794 E
Component: TSG HR H21 0210
Coding: 0002050
Shop #: WSC 02327 758 00200
VCID: 2E050AE0EC17B25BD1E-807A


No fault code found.


End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:37, VBatt start/end: 12.6V/12.7V)-----------

dan2485
30-12-2020, 08:51 PM
There is nothing on the scan that will prevent the starting of the car. Have you checked at the starter motor to see if you are getting power to the solenoid when the key is turned over?

Is there a 12 v feed to the motor on the main power lead?
Is the engine ground lead good?

The ABS faults are standard when the battery has been replaced and will clear when the car is started and driven.

The J359 fault relates to a the auxillary heater that your car has fitted, this could just be a 40A fuse blown (this located under the J519 Module).

Another question that needs to be asked can you turn the engine over by hand to rule out a siezed engine?

dan2485
30-12-2020, 09:37 PM
found this video which may help you.

audi a6 ,a4 ,a8 no start fix and diognastic - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T32sNntKFN8)

dan2485
30-12-2020, 10:14 PM
37682This is the J53 starter relay (this is the terminal 50 relay).

dan2485
12-01-2021, 03:03 PM
I hope that you are well and safe, did you get your issue sorted?

andresaint
08-08-2021, 04:56 PM
Hello everyone,
my A6 C6 avant 2.0 tdi is "dead". Insert key and nothing happens. The main problem is that my garage is too narrow for a tow truck to come in and with the car dead is close to impossible to push it out. So I'm stuck, literally... like the car :(
Tried jumper cables with other car, nothing changed.
Removed the battery, took it to the shop. They tested, charged it overnight and said it was good to go.
Next day, mounted the battery in the car nothing changed, except the installed component not valid warning when I turn the mmi on... I'm 99% sure it wasn't there before I removed/installed the battery.
I went and purchased a vagcom, I've never used one befora.
At first the car wasn't communicating, I tried the brake+hazards+high beams and it started the scan.
1st scan fault codes almos everywhere.
After clearing all the fault codes at once... and then clearing one by one, on the ones that I could access, this is what the car is left with:

Sunday,08,August,2021,11:24:22:00009
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 20.12.0.0 (x64)
Data version: 20201124 DS322.0
Ross-Tech: Home (www.Ross-Tech.com)




Chassis Type: 4F0
Scan: 01 02 03 05 07 08 09 0E 15 16 17 19 42 46 47 4F 52 53 56 61
62 72 76 77

Mileage: 334540km-207873miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
01-Engine -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
02-Auto Trans -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
07-Control Head -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
0E-Media Player 1 -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
15-Airbags -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
47-Sound System -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
56-Radio -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. Labels:. 4F0-910-852.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 910 852 HW: 4F0 905 852 B
Component: FBSAUDIC6 ELV H31 0230
Revision: 09010701 Serial number: 10601500809550
Coding: 0000131
Shop #: WSC 02323 758 00200
VCID: 63CFF24EA255B19C7E-8036

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 910 131 E
Component: FBSAUDIC6 EZS H45 0080

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 07: Control Head
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 4F0-910-043.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 910 043 A HW: 4F1 820 043 AF
Component: KLIMABETAETIGUNGH30 0020
Revision: 00000052 Serial number: 00000030252450
Coding: 0000276
Shop #: WSC 02325 758 00200
VCID: 1C3D89B2DFABCE64FF-8048

1 Fault Found:
01206 - Signal for Duration of Ignition Off Time
008 - Implausible Signal

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 4F0-910-279.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 279 K HW: 4F0 907 279
Component: ILM Fahrer H18 0250
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 4F0907279
Coding: 0000101
Shop #: WSC 02335 758 00200
VCID: 31634806A829530CBC-8064

Subsystem 1 - Component: Fehler Lin-Slave 01

Subsystem 2 - Component: Fehler Lin-Slave 02

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 0E: Media Player 1
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 16: Steering wheel
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments Labels: 4F0-910-xxx-17.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 900 C HW: 4F0 920 901 G
Component: KOMBIINSTR. M73 H16 0220
Revision: 00100000 Serial number: 645731D67
Coding: 3328158
Shop #: WSC 80093 222 69422
VCID: 2045BD42F3C3EA8423-8074

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels:. 4F0-910-468.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 910 468 A HW: 4F0 907 468 D
Component: Gateway H11 0070
Revision: 11 Serial number: 1300807613820C
Coding: ECFE53C41B1104
Shop #: WSC 02334 758 00200
VCID: 2757A65E96ED1DBC62-8072

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 42: Door Elect, Driver
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv.
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 47: Sound System
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II Labels: 4F0-910-280.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 280 HW: 4F0 907 280 A
Component: ILM Beifahrer H12 0100
Revision: Serial number: 00000000450315
Coding: 0001104
Shop #: WSC 02323 758 00200
VCID: 5EB9C3BA89379C7451-800A

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 53: Parking Brake
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 61: Battery Regul. Labels: 4F0-910-181.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 181 E HW: 4F0 915 181 A
Component: J0644 BEM H12 0590
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000094066
Shop #: WSC 00084 261 54941
VCID: 234FB24EE2D5F19C3E-8076

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 915 105 C
Component: von VA0 2706070021
Coding: 344630393135313035432056413032373036303730303231
Shop #: WSC 00000 384 00290

1 Fault Found:
02273 - Quiescent Current Stage 2
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 334545 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2007.03.13
Time: 13:16:51


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 62: Door, Rear Left
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 72: Door, Rear Right
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 76: Park Assist Labels: 4Fx-910-283.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 283 F HW: 4F0 919 283 F
Component: Parkhilfe 4-Kan H09 0060
Revision: 00H09000 Serial number: 06230717406098
Coding: 0001016
Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
VCID: 2757A65E96ED1DBC62-8072

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 77: Telephone
Cannot be reached

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:35)--------------------------

Thanks in advance for all the help you could give me.

swalker
09-08-2021, 09:21 AM
don't be scared looks like something is not coming up rather than 100 faults - some errors from a dead battery
I would start here:-
01206 - Ross-Tech Wiki (http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/01206)

andresaint
10-08-2021, 10:23 AM
don't be scared looks like something is not coming up rather than 100 faults - some errors from a dead battery
I would start here:-
01206 - Ross-Tech Wiki (http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/01206)

1st of all thanks for the reply. I don't know if theres any way I can test the ignition switch ??

Anyway, someone said to me that the scan couldn't be accurate because it wasn't communicating with all the modules.
Adviced me to jump wire the back of the obd connector (pin 1 and 16) and make a new scan.

That same person is saying that it's 100% the steering column module that needs to be fixed/replaced ?

I also measured this with key in ignition:
https://i.ibb.co/fXcF12r/234859837-554979719258804-771354911831820898-n.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/fYgrY6K/234312628-867292963921614-7606339789548345263-n.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/PxCNd5Q/234425304-682387426495957-1661217983985994469-n.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/sKrzKS9/234324963-819887788888035-6714576132757889957-n.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/94PdpHN/234628715-687380178886268-9005748664844952582-n.jpg

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VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 20.12.0.0 (x64)
Data version: 20201124 DS322.0
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VIN: WAUZZZ4F58N017419 License Plate:


Chassis Type: 4F (4F0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 07 08 09 0E 15 16 17 19 42 46 47 4F 52 53 56 61
62 72 76 77

VIN: WAUZZZ4F58N017419 Mileage: 334540km-207873miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
07-Control Head -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
0E-Media Player 1 -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
47-Sound System -- Status: Malfunction 0010
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
76-Park Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000

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Address 01: Engine Labels: User\03G-906-016-BRE.lbl
Part No SW: 03G 906 016 MF HW: 03G 906 016 MF
Component: R4 2,0L EDC G200CG 0946
Revision: --H05--- Serial number:
Coding: 0000076
Shop #: WSC 66565 257 00032
VCID: 73EF820E12B5211C0E-8026

2 Faults Found:
006215 - Please check DTC Memory of ABS Controller
P1847 - 000 -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 334545 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2007.03.14
Time: 17:25:44

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 12.39 V
Bin. Bits: 00101000
Torque: 0.0 Nm
Bin. Bits: 00000100

053273 - Control Module for Instrument Cluster
U1019 - 000 - Missing Signal for Oil Level/Temperature
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 334545 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2007.03.14
Time: 17:25:47

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 12.39 V
Bin. Bits: 00101000
Bin. Bits: 00000000
(no units): 64.0

Readiness: 0 0 1 1 1

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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 01J-927-156.lbl
Part No SW: 4F2 910 155 H HW: 01J 927 156 JG
Component: V30 01J 2.0l PD RdW 0010
Revision: --H03--- Serial number: 00000000000178
Coding: 0000001
Shop #: WSC 02325 758 00200
VCID: 2953A06680F92BCC74-807C

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 4F0-910-517.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 910 517 AC HW: 4F0 614 517 T
Component: ESP8 front H01 0070
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 0020856
Shop #: WSC 02325 758 00200
VCID: 65CBEC56AC61CFAC90-8030

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. Labels:. 4F0-910-852.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 910 852 HW: 4F0 905 852 B
Component: FBSAUDIC6 ELV H31 0230
Revision: 09010701 Serial number: 10601500809550
Coding: 0000131
Shop #: WSC 02323 758 00200
VCID: 63CFF24EA255B19C7E-8036

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 910 131 E
Component: FBSAUDIC6 EZS H45 0080

1 Fault Found:
00576 - Terminal 15
006 - Short to Plus
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100110
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 121
Mileage: 334545 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2007.03.14
Time: 17:26:19


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Address 07: Control Head Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 4F0 910 769 G HW: 4F0 035 769 A
Component: MMI Cockpit H35 0410
Revision: C61060DE Serial number: AUZ6Z3G6FF2701
Coding: 0144107
Shop #: WSC 02325 758 00200
VCID: 31634806A829530CBC-8064

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 910 609 E
Component: Bedienteil MMIC6H01 0060

Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 00000000793206

Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0125.06.070000000100011327ÿ

Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 011327ÿ

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 4F0-910-043.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 910 043 A HW: 4F1 820 043 AF
Component: KLIMABETAETIGUNGH30 0020
Revision: 00000052 Serial number: 00000030252450
Coding: 0000276
Shop #: WSC 02325 758 00200
VCID: 1C3D89B2DFABCE64FF-8048

3 Faults Found:
00797 - Sunlight Photo Sensor (G107)
009 - Open or Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101001
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 121
Mileage: 334545 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2007.03.14
Time: 17:25:30

00797 - Sunlight Photo Sensor (G107)
009 - Open or Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101001
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 121
Mileage: 334545 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2007.03.14
Time: 17:25:30

01206 - Signal for Duration of Ignition Off Time
008 - Implausible Signal
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101001
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 121
Mileage: 334545 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2007.03.14
Time: 17:25:30


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 4F0-910-279.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 279 K HW: 4F0 907 279
Component: ILM Fahrer H18 0250
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 4F0907279
Coding: 0000101
Shop #: WSC 02335 758 00200
VCID: 31634806A829530CBC-8064

Subsystem 1 - Component: Fehler Lin-Slave 01

Subsystem 2 - Component: Fehler Lin-Slave 02

No fault code found.

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Address 0E: Media Player 1 Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 4F0 910 769 G HW: 4F0 035 769 A
Component: MMI Cockpit H35 0410
Revision: C61060DE Serial number: AUZ6Z3G6FF2701
Coding: 0144107
Shop #: WSC 02325 758 00200
VCID: 31634806A829530CBC-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 4F0-910-655-8R.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 910 655 E HW: 4F0 959 655 B
Component: 42 AIRBAG AUDI8RH30 0280
Revision: 09H30000 Serial number: 0037LD0SHM8X
Coding: 0013362
Shop #: WSC 02325 758 00200
VCID: 2953A06680F92BCC74-807C

Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332CSME144C5D1CD

Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342CSME144C2160Z

Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6352QSME3341416FE

Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6362QSME2E370449L

Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 63734SME2F544D618

Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63834SME2F5441752

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel
Cannot be reached

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 4F0-910-xxx-17.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 900 C HW: 4F0 920 901 G
Component: KOMBIINSTR. M73 H16 0220
Revision: 00100000 Serial number: 645731D67
Coding: 3328158
Shop #: WSC 80093 222 69422
VCID: 2045BD42F3C3EA8423-8074

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels:. 4F0-910-468.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 910 468 A HW: 4F0 907 468 D
Component: Gateway H11 0070
Revision: 11 Serial number: 1300807613820C
Coding: ECFE53C41B1104
Shop #: WSC 02334 758 00200
VCID: 2757A65E96ED1DBC62-8072

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver
Cannot be reached

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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels:. 4F0-910-289.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 289 J HW: 4F0 907 289 J
Component: Komfortgeraet H25 0200
Revision: 02000025 Serial number: 01050724200000
Coding: 0000753
Shop #: WSC 02335 758 00200
VCID: 31634806A829530CBC-8064

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301

Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4F0 910 177
Component: Innenraumueberw.H01 0020

2 Faults Found:
01503 - Bulb for 3rd Brake Light (M25)
009 - Open or Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101001
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 254
Reset counter: 121
Mileage: 325181 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2007.03.02
Time: 12:23:30

00576 - Terminal 15
008 - Implausible Signal
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101000
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 121
Mileage: 334545 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2007.03.14
Time: 17:18:08


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Address 47: Sound System (J525) Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 4F0 910 223 K HW: 4F0 035 223 L
Component: Amp.-ASK-RD H07 0250
Revision: 09S00000
Coding: 020001
Shop #: WSC 02399 823 56573
VCID: 2649AB5A51E704B459-8072

1 Fault Found:
02095 - Component Protection Active
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 121
Mileage: 334545 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2007.03.14
Time: 17:25:25

Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 12.30 V
Temperature: 32.0°C
Bin. Bits: 00000011


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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II Labels: 4F0-910-280.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 280 HW: 4F0 907 280 A
Component: ILM Beifahrer H12 0100
Revision: Serial number: 00000000450315
Coding: 0001104
Shop #: WSC 02323 758 00200
VCID: 5EB9C3BA89379C7451-800A

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.
Cannot be reached

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Address 53: Parking Brake Labels: 4F0-910-801.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 910 801 C HW: 4F0 907 801 A
Component: EPB CDEC0080 H04 0080
Revision: --H04---
Coding: 0000131
Shop #: WSC 02324 758 00200
VCID: 2045BD42F3C3EA8423-8074

1 Fault Found:
00576 - Terminal 15
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - MIL ON
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 11101100
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 121
Mileage: 334544 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2007.03.14
Time: 17:18:08

Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 11.18 V
Count: 41


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Address 56: Radio Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 4F0 910 769 G HW: 4F0 035 769 A
Component: MMI Cockpit H35 0410
Revision: C61060DE Serial number: AUZ6Z3G6FF2701
Coding: 0144107
Shop #: WSC 02325 758 00200
VCID: 31634806A829530CBC-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 61: Battery Regul. Labels: 4F0-910-181.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 181 E HW: 4F0 915 181 A
Component: J0644 BEM H12 0590
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000094066
Shop #: WSC 00084 261 54941
VCID: 234FB24EE2D5F19C3E-8076

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 915 105 C
Component: von VA0 2706070021
Coding: 344630393135313035432056413032373036303730303231
Shop #: WSC 00000 384 00290

2 Faults Found:
02256 - Quiescent Current
001 - Upper Limit Exceeded
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100001
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 121
Mileage: 334545 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2007.03.14
Time: 17:25:24

02273 - Quiescent Current Stage 2
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 334545 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2007.03.14
Time: 17:25:24


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Address 62: Door, Rear Left
Cannot be reached

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right
Cannot be reached

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Address 76: Park Assist Labels: 4Fx-910-283.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 283 F HW: 4F0 919 283 F
Component: Parkhilfe 4-Kan H09 0060
Revision: 00H09000 Serial number: 06230717406098
Coding: 0001016
Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
VCID: 2757A65E96ED1DBC62-8072

1 Fault Found:
00576 - Terminal 15
008 - Implausible Signal
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101000
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 121
Mileage: 334545 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2007.03.14
Time: 17:25:25


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Address 77: Telephone Labels: 4E0-910-336.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 336 K HW: 4E0 862 335
Component: Handyvorb2 H16 0950
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000007683393
Coding: 0020990
Shop #: WSC 02335 758 00200
VCID: 2A515F6A85FF20D47D-807E

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:35)--------------------------

philipharmes
11-08-2021, 10:29 AM
In your first picture, Group 001 shows "Terminal 15 Off", but in Group 003, Ignition switch E415 Status Terminal 15 On.

Both should be the same, ON with the ignition switched On.

I don't have a wiring diagram, but this suggests to me either a wiring fault between the Ignition Switch & Terminal 15, or perhaps a faulty relay that supplies Terminal 15 power.

Start Authorisation module 05 shows :-
1 Fault Found:
00576 - Terminal 15
006 - Short to Plus
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100110
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 121
Mileage: 334545 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2007.03.14
Time: 17:26:19

which could be a faulty module or just that it isn't getting the Terminal 15 voltage it needs.

I think you really need a wiring diagram to progress further & investigate Terminal 15 wiring.

Hope this helps.