Hill hold / assist settings remember after ignition on new models?

[boof]

Hello,

I have a 2012 12 plate saloon.

I have to enable the hill hold / assist button (whatever you want to call it!) underneath the electric handbrake every time I cycle the ignition.

I had a 13 plate saloon as a loan car today and I didn't have to do this. It came on automatically.

Either it came on automatically 'as standard' in the new car or it was remembering the setting from the previous driver.

Either way - I want that!

Is this a setting somewhere I've missed on mine? Or yet another mysterious and secretive update done to newer MY cars like the rationalisation of SIM / bluetooth phone and phonebook sharing?

[johnsimcox]

Hello,

I have a 2012 12 plate saloon.

I have to enable the hill hold / assist button (whatever you want to call it!) underneath the electric handbrake every time I cycle the ignition.

I had a 13 plate saloon as a loan car today and I didn't have to do this. It came on automatically.

Either it came on automatically 'as standard' in the new car or it was remembering the setting from the previous driver.

Either way - I want that!

Is this a setting somewhere I've missed on mine? Or yet another mysterious and secretive update done to newer MY cars like the rationalisation of SIM / bluetooth phone and phonebook sharing?
Unfortunately this is an MY14 change and not something possible on earlier cars, although you would have thought that it was probably only a software change so Audi could retrospectively offer it if they chose to (feel the Audi Connect change probably falls into he same boat as well)

[boof]

Ah - as suspected. Thanks for confirming it. Yet another downside to being an 'early adopter' :(

Does this mean that newer MY cars get different version numbers of software flashed onto them I wonder? I guess they must do if they're different.

[ianc1990]

I have an October 2012 A6 with the same issue too.

Went into Audi today for 2 'campaigns' as well as the TSB for the creaky steering wheel and they were supposed to update the software (not sure if they did)

Either way, it still doesn't remember the setting and I have to turn it on every time I cycle the car. I have since called Audi UK to ask them about this and they are checking with a technician early tomorrow and calling me back with an answer.

[VDT]

I'd like that so stay set on my car too. Mines a March 2013, no different than my 2011 C7.

[ianc1990]

Perhaps if we all raise the issue with audi (Audi UK is a freephone number with good customer service), they may look at fixing it with a software upgrade?

I would urge anyone who dislikes the way it currently works to call them and raise it with them - I just used the customer services number on their site

http://www.audi.co.uk/about-audi/contact-us/contact-details.html

[Gwynmawr]

Perhaps if we all raise the issue with audi (Audi UK is a freephone number with good customer service), they may look at fixing it with a software upgrade?

I would urge anyone who dislikes the way it currently works to call them and raise it with them - I just used the customer services number on their site

Contact details < Contact us < About Audi (http://www.audi.co.uk/about-audi/contact-us/contact-details.html)

Done ! Sent them an email. Fingers crossed they provide an update, current setting seems bonkers.

[ianc1990]

They called me earlier today to say that there isn't much they can do and no TSB/Update that they are aware of.

I think I will also drop them an email to complain about this. Could you perhaps post what you emailed them to give us all a base to work off? If we can somehow make this, or a new threa a sticky and get as many people as possible to email them this complaint, we may have it resolved!

[dmcconachie]

Not sure I see what grounds there are for complaint to be honest. It's working as designed, it just so happens that subsequent designs work better. I can't believe they wouldn't update it if they could.
Hope it works out for you of course.

[ianc1990]

I guess a better word to use would be feedback, rather than complaint. If they feel that many people with the older models are dissatisfied with the current configuration, they may investigate this and include it in a software update for the older models.

If the newer models have different controllers, they will have different software revisions so an update for them will be different than an update for the older vehicles. Unless enough people raise the matter with Audi, its unlikely that the will investigate it.

[Gwynmawr]

Done ! Sent them an email. Fingers crossed they provide an update, current setting seems bonkers.

Quick reply from Audi, they said contact the dealer who should be able to assist. Will give it a try.

[boof]

Quick reply from Audi, they said contact the dealer who should be able to assist. Will give it a try.

That phrasing would suggest they think it's possible.

I wonder if that's what they meant to convey...

Let us know how you go!

[biffyg]

Did anyone get anywhere with this? I have this same annoyance in my '61 A7.

[ianc1990]

I have spoken to my local dealership 3 times about this now, and each time they're either ignoring it, or completely forgetting to look into it.
Every time I take it in there have been 2 or 3 issues and when I asked them if they manage to look into it, they can never answer me. All I can say is that it never came back working as I want it.

[Gwynmawr]

This was the reply from my local dealer "I am not personally aware of current models remembering hill hold assist after a recycle of the engine. If it is any comfort my vehicles hill assist works in exactly the same way as yours but I will have a look into it."

Car is going in next week for the power steering software upgrade, so I'll ask again then.

[ianc1990]

Mine is back in on Monday for something else and asked them to check it once again - last time I will ask.

[Whippy53]

Mine has always rememberd its settings.

[pumpsmynads]

My A6 (got beginning of Jan 2014) remembers the hill hold setting.
It won't remember that I had the radio off and starts with it on every single time, and insists on telling me audibly with chimes that the passenger airbag is on. But it will remember the hill hold setting.

Which on an automatic renders the start-stop system pointless. Either sit on the footbrake and have the engine cut out or lift off once green brake symbol appears to use hill hold.

Oh Audi!!!!!!

[johnsimcox]

My A6 (got beginning of Jan 2014) remembers the hill hold setting.
It won't remember that I had the radio off and starts with it on every single time, and insists on telling me audibly with chimes that the passenger airbag is on. But it will remember the hill hold setting.

Which on an automatic renders the start-stop system pointless. Either sit on the footbrake and have the engine cut out or lift off once green brake symbol appears to use hill hold.

Oh Audi!!!!!!
If you put the transmission in Park then you can take your foot off the brake and the engine will not restart until you put the car back in Drive (or the car decides it needs to restart for power reasons)

[jk88]

Which on an automatic renders the start-stop system pointless. Either sit on the footbrake and have the engine cut out or lift off once green brake symbol appears to use hill hold.

Oh Audi!!!!!!
It's a shame that they have set it up this way and it's really not difficult to do it properly as VAG already know - it works fine in our Golf. With both start/stop and hill hold selected, the engine cuts out as normal (and you can still decide to activate or not using brake pedal pressure) but then the start trigger becomes touching the throttle rather than releasing the brake. Works perfectly, hopefully adopted by Audi next MY.

[ianc1990]

I noticed this on the courtesy car I was given. As above, hopefully they will adopt the VW technique soon.

[ianc1990]

Right - I had a call from the dealership, and the technician was next to him. I can safely say, that in the opinion of my local dealership, the hill-hold assist cannot possibly be configured to automatically turn itself on and it has to be turned on with the press of the button, each time you cycle the ignition. The car is on the latest version of the software and there are certainly no updates available.


I guess, to me, this puts this thread at rest - if your car requires this option to be manually turned on each time you start the car, this is the way it will remain for the foreseeable future.


I would suggest anyone who sees this as an issue to communicate their frustrations to Audi UK who may pull their finger out and sort this out for good :)

[Whippy53]

Well, I suggest you go back and tell him that mine does it, every time, always has.

[ianc1990]

I don't think they disagreed that some of the newer ones come on automatically, but they did say there is certainly no update available that will make the older models work like that....

[Kalashnikov]

mines is b8 audi a4 tdi 2008.

damm thing dont remember the setting either. i wish there was a way to program it via VCDS.

any clues ?????

[johnsimcox]

mines is b8 audi a4 tdi 2008.

damm thing dont remember the setting either. i wish there was a way to program it via VCDS.

any clues ?????
The ability for the system to remember the previous setting when restarting came with the MY14 (May13 build onwards) and as yet no one has identified a way of enabling this on cars built before that date so would expect it is no different with A4

[Kalashnikov]

Thanks for the update. I do hope someone can find a way. It's so annoying having to switch it on each time.

[JayNana]

had a courtesy car - 65 reg Allroad - not only does it remember, if u let the engine stop (auto start/stop) it stays off when you take the foot off the brake pedal as well!

[Knightly77]

I have a MY15 BE. Hill hold settings stay on until and unless I press the button to deactivate it. As soon as I get in the car and click the seat belt in, it is on.

[El-Cap]

Same here. 16 plate A7 - Hill hold stays on. Also does so in the 16 plate Passat.

[A6S]

I have a MY15 BE. Hill hold settings stay on until and unless I press the button to deactivate it. As soon as I get in the car and click the seat belt in, it is on.
Same here, on both my old my14 fl ultra and my current my15 272

[JamesMo]

I believe this change was made with the 2013 model year - my old 2012my sline needed the autohold enabling every time the car was started. I had a 13my as loaner while mine was being serviced and I remember noticing it staying on. My 2016 fl keeps the auto hold on as long as seatbelt is fastened, door closed, engine running.

I don't believe there is a way of changing the setting on the pre 2013 models.

Hope that helps

[diecastsink]

There has been memory setting for the start/stop even in 2012 MY from the beginning, so why could there be such bit also for HH? Just need to have one who finds it...

[JayNana]

Unless they never thought anybody would ever need such a thing and never built that configurability into the software[emoji13]


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[A6S]

I think it could be the car needed a combination of parts/options so the memory worked. Might be a better/more complicated control module somewhere.
My my14 and 15 were stronic with memory seats and some other options. The memory didn't work on my my13 pre but that was a bog standard sline manual. I'm sure this worked on my colleagues my14 pre auto as I remember asking him how to keep it on rather press's the button every time I started the car and he said it's always been like that.

[GrolschUK]

There has been memory setting for the start/stop even in 2012 MY from the beginning

Stop/Start no longer has memory, it is enabled every time you turn on the car.

[diecastsink]

So

25. Disable/memorize/invert Start & Stop
[Select]
[09-Cent. Elect.]
[Security Access - 16] (enter security code - 20113)
[Adaptation - 10]
Select Channel 34 and Read
if you subtract 4 from the original value --> Start&Stop always disabled
if you add 32 to the original value --> memorize last status (the Start & Stop status at engine startup will be the one at last engine shutdown)
if you add 64 to the original value --> Start & Stop button light will be reversed: off if Start & Stop is disabled, and on if Start & Stop is enabled.
Press Test then press Save

does not work anymore in FL and the SS is always enabled ?

[kdagher]

hello, everyone i am new to this forum,

i had a question to everyone who has the Auto Hold feature pre 2013, You all said when you cycle the engine auto hold turns off. May i know what happens when you open the door and close it back, does it also turn off ? How about the seat belt, if you unbuckle then buckle, does it remember that it was on ?(assuming it was switched on after ignition cylce)

If anyone has VCDS can they post adaptation values of the 09 & 46 module ? for the cars with auto hold stays on.

I have been working on finding the channel for the past 2 weeks, and i need cars post 2013 to be able to find it :)

Thank you

[kdagher]

hello, everyone i am new to this forum,

i had a question to everyone who has the Auto Hold feature pre 2013, You all said when you cycle the engine auto hold turns off. May i know what happens when you open the door and close it back, does it also turn off ? How about the seat belt, if you unbuckle then buckle, does it remember that it was on ?(assuming it was switched on after ignition cylce)

If anyone has VCDS can they post adaptation values of the 09 & 46 module ? for the cars with auto hold stays on.

I have been working on finding the channel for the past 2 weeks, and i need cars post 2013 to be able to find it :)

Thank you

any help ?

[JayNana]

Answer to your first 2 questions:

1. Open the door and close - autohold goes off when I open the door, doesn't come back when I close the door.

2. Seatbelt - autohold goes off when I unbuckle, doesn't come back when I buckle again.

Car is 2011 though. So can't answer your 3rd question.

Best of luck and do let me know if u find the answer[emoji106], could really do with this


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