A6 3.0 TDI QUATTRO numbers

[Cwizard]

After looking at the engine of my 2006 Audi A6 3.0 TDI Quattro, i was wondering how many things were actually changed on the engine itself. As in parts. So i stumbled upon a few 'numbers' lol. If someone could tell me what they mean and what they're from i'd be forever grateful.

Here it goes:

{
Werk : 026
Date : 100806
Line: 2
Part : 059 064 CA
}


059 129 086 M > I've got 2 of those? both have years 2010 on them? I have no idea what it is nor why it was changed.


I've also managed to record some very scary things ( at least theyre scary for me ) under the hood. Seems like carbon deposit around one of the hoses, also what i believe it to be an oil leak of some sort. Will upload video in about 30 mins. I'd appreciate if someone could tell me is it anything i should be worried about or not.

[Cwizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ST_-jtJrlM

[gupsterg]

059 129 086 M

Swirl flap motors :)

On your sticker:- Date = Production date of 10/08/2006

My best guesses on rest:- Werk = Production plant 26, Line = Production line 2, Part = Your base engine part no


Seems like carbon deposit around one of the hoses,

I have that on mine... it was there before I had work on on engine... I can't remember if that was cleaned after work done... but will check my video... but I consider that normal...

Look at below video... pause at point 0:07...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mbjzUMCBf2Q#!

You will note on turbo there is black pipe from air filter box... that is the fresh air... the silver pipe with the rubber union is the charge pressure/air from the turbo...
The other pipes from engine becoming one and going into turbo is the exhaust gases to make turbo spin...

Google for SSP 350 &/or SSP 325...


also what i believe it to be an oil leak of some sort.

Are you losing oil rapidly? if not it may just be ingress from age/use of engine and not anything to worry about...

[Cwizard]

I'm not lying when i say this, im going to sleep like a baby tonight because my worries have somewhat vanished. thanks so much on the info. Makes sense now. Its just that when i was purchasing this car, all my family and friends were advising to go and get a brand new VW Golf for the same price, i insisted on the A6. More than happy with the decision, its just now im scared the previous owner didn't reveal to me any major problems or even minor ones. Here in Australia the VW AUDI dealers are a rip off. A new A6 3.0 TDI QUATTRO would cost approx $120k AUD. Convert that into pounds or euros and you'll see what i mean. Services cost in excess of $600 ( basic ). Previous owner advised to take it to a VW dealer, he thought i'd have more luck with them. They wanted to charge him $1000 for changing his battery in the boot, even tho it didn't need changing. Its ridiculous. Really. Good VW/AUDI mechanics in Australia are rare as hens teeth.

Thumbs up for the video of the engine. Looks remarkable.

[gupsterg]

I've done full service at home, all pads & discs... AMI, DAB & Graphical PDC retro... twice had interior out bar the roof trim and dash... front & rear bumper off for various checks, realignments, etc...

I've seen engine bay stripped... viewed chassis underneath several times...

I lack experience but will help with anything I can :Blush:, just like all the other great poster's here on VWAF!... the many are strong!

Any P/N's, PDF's, photos, videos you wish to have to make comparison/use for servicing PM or post thread...

WE can't let our down under pal's down can we! :D

They are well built cars, design is good, features are stonking... too many times I've been to drive other brand car (& owned in past)...

IMO the A6 rocks :) especially with a 3.0 TDi/Tip/Quattro... no wonder my bank accounts been emptying rapidly to keep it :p

[ChA6dders]

Those stains look normal to me I think if there was anything to worry about they'd be shiny like fresh oil stains

[Cwizard]

Here we are, i recorded this with a Go Pro Hero2 camera. You can see on acceleration it 'wobbles' a tiny bit. Also when decelerating you can see how erratic it is. I can feel it get worser. It actually slows down the car and then makes it go faster- all in 2 seconds. Also when im standstill i can hear every second a thump. Very strange sound. It is coming from the engine also. But it happens in regular intervals. When scanned with scanner no erros apart from battery regulator and coolant thingy. Still waiting for my own scanner lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9Ueqj63DIY&feature=youtu.be

[Cwizard]

I just hope i haven't got gearbox issues. Doesn't this look exactly the same???


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnvbvrEcGW8

[gupsterg]

Here we are, i recorded this with a Go Pro Hero2 camera. You can see on acceleration it 'wobbles' a tiny bit. Also when decelerating you can see how erratic it is. I can feel it get worser. It actually slows down the car and then makes it go faster- all in 2 seconds. Also when im standstill i can hear every second a thump. Very strange sound. It is coming from the engine also. But it happens in regular intervals. When scanned with scanner no erros apart from battery regulator and coolant thingy.

I can say categorically mine does not do this whilst driving... even when my revs at idle fluctuate there are no transmission noises or any other kind of thumps...

I'm :( to say those flucations are huge in comparison to mine...

Mine is purely engine noise in line with the rev fluctuation... the thumping maybe your torque converter (not sure if you have Auto), maybe have gearbox checked or run diags/measuring blocks on that...

IIRC you can have laptop in car with some MVB's running to see what tranny doing...

[Cwizard]

Yeah mine is auto... i do think it is the torque converter. If it is, im in for the most expensive fix for an Audi. Its got to be more than $10,000. It all points to that. :-(

Will keep youse updated.

[gupsterg]

The clutch generates briefly (about 500 ms) noises or vibrations/juddering when changing gear.


Note: This entry only applies to vibrations/juddering during the control phase of the converter clutch.

The converter condition can be checked in MVB 007/3 (converter open/ convertercontrol/ converter shut).



Above is extract from a technical service bulletin... I don't think this particular TSB apply to your car as it is newer... but you can see diagnostics can be done without removal of tranny...

Get some diags done on tranny... if you PM an external email I will send you the PDF...

[Cwizard]

Sent you email, thanks mate

[Cwizard]

When i turn on the car i hear liquid bubbling from the engine compartment.... Anyone had any similar sounds? What could it indicate? Very curious. Also i noticed revs more bumpy when that is happening. Come to think of it, when they scanned it a coolant error came up previously. Would that somehow have anything to do with the weird bubbling sound? Any help appreciated!

[kite]

When i turn on the car i hear liquid bubbling from the engine compartment.... Anyone had any similar sounds? What could it indicate? Very curious. Also i noticed revs more bumpy when that is happening. Come to think of it, when they scanned it a coolant error came up previously. Would that somehow have anything to do with the weird bubbling sound? Any help appreciated!

Sounds like a blocked Plenum drain.

....If only I was as smart as this bloody phone

[Cwizard]

Could be, but why would it make that sound only when i turn on the engine? Including the revs being more bumpy. Maybe water pump? I'm out of ideas.

:1zhelp:

[Cwizard]

Here it is, could anyone indicate to me what is causing revs do jump around while driving?

VCDS Version: Release 11.11.4
Data version: 20120807


Saturday,22,December,2012,17:24:10:36977


Chassis Type: 4L0
Scan: 01 02 03 05 07 08 09 0E 15 16 17 19 42 46 47 4F 52 53 56 61
62 6C 72 76 77


VIN: oops! left it here earlier Mileage: 130590km/81144miles


00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
07-Control Head -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
0E-Media Player 1 -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000

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Address 01: Engine Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 4F0 910 402 D HW: 4F0 907 401 C
Component: 3.0L V6TDI G000AG 0020
Revision: --H03--- Serial number:
Coding: 0011372
Shop #: WSC 02334 785 00200
VCID: 1E33176FC927A4E8339


4 Faults Found:
005658 - Glowplug for Cylinder 1 (Q10)
P161A - 001 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01110001
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 129989 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.12.09
Time: 11:12:28


Freeze Frame:
RPM: 882 /min
Torque: 97.5 Nm
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Duty Cycle: 1.0 %
Voltage: 13.91 V
Duty Cycle: 24.9 %
Temperature: 25.2°C


005659 - Glowplug for Cylinder 2 (Q11)
P161B - 001 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01110001
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 129989 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.12.09
Time: 11:12:28


Freeze Frame:
RPM: 882 /min
Torque: 97.5 Nm
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Duty Cycle: 1.0 %
Voltage: 13.91 V
Duty Cycle: 24.9 %
Temperature: 25.2°C


005660 - Glowplug for Cylinder 3 (Q12)
P161C - 001 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01110001
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 129989 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.12.09
Time: 11:12:28


Freeze Frame:
RPM: 882 /min
Torque: 97.5 Nm
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Duty Cycle: 1.0 %
Voltage: 13.91 V
Duty Cycle: 24.9 %
Temperature: 25.2°C


005661 - Glowplug for Cylinder 4 (Q13)
P161D - 001 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01110001
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 129989 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.12.09
Time: 11:12:28


Freeze Frame:
RPM: 882 /min
Torque: 97.5 Nm
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Duty Cycle: 1.0 %
Voltage: 13.91 V
Duty Cycle: 24.9 %
Temperature: 25.2°C


Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0


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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 09L-927-760.lbl
Part No SW: 4F2 910 156 F HW: 09L 927 156 C
Component: AG6 09L 3,0 TDI RdW 0030
Revision: --H01--- Serial number: 4218947
Coding: 0000001
Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
VCID: 285F31B79B636A58495


No fault code found.


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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 4F0-910-517.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 517 AD HW: 4F0 614 517 AA
Component: ESP8 quattro H01 0070
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 0020872
Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
VCID: 66C37F8F51F7BC28BB9


No fault code found.


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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. Labels: 4F0-910-852.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 910 852 HW: 4F0 905 852 B
Component: FBSAUDIC6 ELV H31 0220
Revision: 31050601 Serial number: 10601000507697
Coding: 0000019
Shop #: WSC 02323 785 00200
VCID: E3C5E69B22C54900DC7


Part No: 4F0 910 131 A
Component: FBSAUDIC6 EZS H45 0080


Part No: 4F0 910 220
Component: FBSAUDIC6 IDG H01 0040


No fault code found.


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Address 07: Control Head Labels: 4F0-910-7xx-07-H.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 731 K HW: 4E0 035 729 A
Component: Interfacebox H43 2860
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 351HN067524172
Coding: 0000002
Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
VCID: 2A5BCBBF856F58485F1


Part No: 4F0 910 609 E
Component: Bedienteil MMIC6H02 0060


No fault code found.


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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 4F0-910-043.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 043 HW: 4F2 820 043 M
Component: KLIMABETAETIGUNGH20 0170
Revision: 00000031 Serial number: 00000000297899
Coding: 0009302
Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
VCID: DBB5DE7B1AB571C0947


1 Fault Found:
00739 - Coolant Circulation Pump (V50)
001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100001
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 4
Reset counter: 240
Mileage: 130072 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.12.09
Time: 13:00:21


Freeze Frame:
Temperature: 89.0°C




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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 4F0-910-279.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 279 L HW: 4F0 907 279 B
Component: ILM Fahrer H17 0240
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 4F0907279
Coding: 0010101
Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
VCID: 326BD3DFADBF1088E71


Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F2 910 113 A
Component: Wischer AudiC6 H04 0190
Coding: 00064784
Shop #: WSC 02335


Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4E0 910 557 A Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
Component: REGENLICHTSENSORH13 0090
Coding: 00146221
Shop #: WSC 02335


No fault code found.


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Address 0E: Media Player 1 Labels: 4E0-910-111.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 111 F HW: 4E0 035 111 A
Component: CD-Changer H44 0470
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: AUZ5ZBF8171789
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 1C371D67DF3BB6F8DDD


No fault code found.


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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 4F0-910-655-8R.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 655 E HW: 4F0 959 655 B
Component: 4F AIRBAG AUDI8RH29 0280
Revision: 08H29000 Serial number: 0037LD0G6JLK
Coding: 0013382
Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
VCID: 295934B38069535056B


No fault code found.


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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 4F0-910-549.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 549 HW: 4F0 953 549 A
Component: Lenksäulenmodul H08 0230
Revision: 00H08000 Serial number: 90055062090034
Coding: 0102141
Shop #: WSC 02323 785 00200
VCID: E6C3FF8FD1F73C283B9


Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: Lenkradmodul H07 0090


No fault code found.


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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 4F0-910-xxx-17.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 900 C HW: 4F0 920 901 C
Component: KOMBIINSTR. M73 H12 0110
Revision: 00200000 Serial number: 58U746086
Coding: 2049743
Shop #: WSC 32200 522 175670
VCID: 204F2997F3539218015


No fault code found.


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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 4L0-910-468.lbl
Part No SW: 4L0 910 468 HW: 4L0 907 468
Component: J533__Gateway H06 0040
Revision: 00H06000 Serial number: 0900B068078112
Coding: F551DE57301206
Shop #: WSC 02334 785 00200
VCID: ECD78DA7CF1B06786DD


No fault code found.


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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 4F0-910-793-42.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 793 E HW: 4F0 959 793 E
Component: TSG FA H12 0120
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: eA†
Coding: 0000634
Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
VCID: 2C57CDA78F9B4678ADD


No fault code found.


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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 4F0-910-289.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 289 G HW: 4F0 907 289 G
Component: Komfortgeraet H22 0170
Revision: 01700022 Serial number: 01017470990000
Coding: 0271753
Shop #: WSC 31220 822 81281
VCID: 2E53C7AFB9873468839


No fault code found.


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Address 47: Sound System Labels: 4F0-910-223-AS.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 223 G HW: 4F0 035 223
Component: Amp.-ASK H10 0350
Revision: 44S00001 Serial number: 02607060327518
Coding: 0000003
Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
VCID: 224B239FFD5F8008171


No fault code found.


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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II Labels: 4F0-910-280.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 280 HW: 4F0 907 280 A
Component: ILM Beifahrer H10 0080
Revision: Serial number: 00000000266953
Coding: 0001013
Shop #: WSC 02323 785 00200
VCID: DEB3D76F09A764E8F39


No fault code found.


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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 4F0-910-793-52.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 793 E HW: 4F0 959 792 E
Component: TSG BF H12 0120
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: a4†
Coding: 0000634
Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
VCID: 2C57CDA78F9B4678ADD


No fault code found.


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Address 53: Parking Brake Labels: 4F0-910-801.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 910 801 B HW: 4F0 907 801 A
Component: EPB CB4C0060 H04 0060
Revision: --H04---
Coding: 0000321
Shop #: WSC 02324 785 00200
VCID: 1F4D2A6BCE2DADE038F


No fault code found.


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Address 56: Radio Labels: 4E0-910-541.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 541 M HW: 4F0 035 541 H
Component: TUNER EU/US/RDW H42 0570
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 394H 067673175
Coding: 0000001
Shop #: WSC 02323 785 00200
VCID: 2A5BCBBF856F58485F1


No fault code found.


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Address 61: Battery Regul. Labels: 4F0-910-181.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 181 E HW: 4F0 915 181 A
Component: J0644 BEM H12 0590
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000088004
Shop #: WSC 31220 822 81281
VCID: 2345269BE24589001C7


Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 915 105 D
Component: von VA0 0607311758
Coding: 344630393135313035442056413030363037333131373538
Shop #: WSC 00000 384 00290


No fault code found.


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Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 4F0-910-795.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 795 E HW: 4F0 959 795 E
Component: TSG HL H21 0050
Coding: 0000042
Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
VCID: 2E53C7AFB9873468839


No fault code found.


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Address 6C: Back-up Cam. Labels: 4L0-910-441.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 910 441 HW: 4L0 907 441 A
Component: J772__Rearview 0050
Revision: --H12--- Serial number: 525PA8-J6820AS
Coding: 1020204
Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
VCID: DDB1D06304A17FF0EA3


No fault code found.


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Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 4F0-910-795.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 795 E HW: 4F0 959 794 E
Component: TSG HR H21 0050
Coding: 0000042
Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
VCID: 2E53C7AFB9873468839


No fault code found.


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Address 76: Park Assist Labels: 4Fx-910-283.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 283 G HW: 4F0 919 283 G
Component: Parkhilfe 8-Kan H12 0060
Revision: 00H12000 Serial number: 06320620903153
Coding: 0221006
Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
VCID: 285F31B79B636A58495


No fault code found.


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Address 77: Telephone Labels: 4E0-910-336.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 336 M HW: 4E0 862 335
Component: Handyvorb2 H18 1130
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000005087601
Coding: 0010920
Shop #: WSC 03122 822 81281
VCID: 2C57CDA78F9B4678ADD


No fault code found.


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[Cwizard]

just terrified this might happen!

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=329283

[gupsterg]

After looking at that linked thread my reaction was :yikes:... I agree with view in that thread that some heat issue must have caused the GP's to go like... considering GP's are cheap at a certain age it maybe wise to just replace so they are at their best...

Back to your log...

RE glowplugs if you clear fault has it come back?

RE your gearbox/TPI...

Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 09L-927-760.lbl
Part No SW: 4F2 910 156 F HW: 09L 927 156 C
Component: AG6 09L 3,0 TDI RdW 0030

Ref the table in TPI you will see parts no/revision for software, your P/N above in red, your rev above in blue...
If you view gearbox from below there is plate with its number on... if you number is higher than one in TPI you can disregard TPI as not applicable...

http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/gupsterg/2_7%203_0%20TDi%20stuff/2012_07250367_zps6fa2c67e.jpg

RE 00739 - Coolant Circulation Pump (V50)

Fault frequency is 4, to do physical check view under plenum chamber cover... here is link to some info and image to ref against when viewing in PC... Link:- V50 Audi A6 4F (http://www.audi-portal.com/en/diagnostic/actuators_18773.html)

Has fault returned after clearing? if it has returned I've seen a thread where someone refurbished their one rather than replace it...

You may find it if you search on VWAF... if I find will post link... this thread has some viewpoints on related fault Link:- http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?130547-Fault-code-00739

I hope your fix is economical... they are lovely cars just so ££££ to sort an issue...

[Cwizard]

Thanks so much for the detailed info, i don't have the equipment to get the car up. Also how much would a Coolant Circulation Pump (V50) cost? Just a rough estimate, can't find one on ebay.

[gupsterg]

My usual PC PSU blew up... so no access to data... will soon rebuild and get you P/N & price... maybe someone else will pop along with info...

Guessing by your post in glow plug thread the fault comes back on glow plugs then?

[Cwizard]

The fault used to come up rarely. Now its back every time i turn the ignition on. Also when i put the temp to HI i hear absolutely loud bubbling noise from the engine compartment. it reminds me of something just about to blow due to pressure issues. I turned the TEMP back to LO and it stopped! I wont be testing it again anytime soon just for the heck of it. Too scared tbh. :-(

[gupsterg]

My best guess is the gurgling that you are hearing is due fault with the coolant valve/pump in plenum chamber (V50)... IIRC the coolant is not only pumped around engine but gearbox and the AC/heater matrix... will fish out info if get my other PC online or find on web...

[Cwizard]

I would greatly appreciate it. I gave Audi a call today, got a few quotes...

Glow plugs

6 glow plugs @ $70.74 each
Labour 2.0 hours @ $176.00 per hour
Total est $778.00

Coolant Circulation Pump (V50)

Coolant pump/valve @ $1006.15
Labour 2.5 @ $176.00 per hour
Total est. $1447.00

Thats nearly 1500 pounds

[gupsterg]

:yikes:... that's expensive... I'll try to get a like quote from here for comparative...

[Cwizard]

Did you manage to get a quote? Nothing new on my side here. I've ordered all parts the only thing to arrive was the 3/8 to 1/4 socket adaptor enlarger. The rest is still 'travelling'. I swear i'd deliver it faster even if i had to go by foot to the buyer... I've taken 5 days off from work, so hopefully it arrives in that time and i get it all done. Will keep youse updated! :-)

[gupsterg]

Due to holiday season & being a bit snowed not yet got quote :Blush2:...

Will do soon as I need to get a quote for compression test ...

My glow plugs and some other parts arrived :) ...

[Cwizard]

got my tools..... 190091901019011


its a nice set of tools... The glow plug kit is rubberised inside to be soft for the plugs...

[gupsterg]

Tools look fantastic! :fing02: ...

I saw you read the thread on "Signs of compression loss", Crasher (:approve:) gave some great tips on the glow plugs...
Sorry mate been snowed with own stuff :( ... I will email you stuff tonite or tomorrow so you can crack on... :beerchug:...

*** Update ***

Check your inbox ;) .... if you need anymore just mail :) ...

ATB
Gup

[gupsterg]

I still can't get to the bottom of those revs jumping up and down while driving. I've even noticed since yesterday that my gearbox has been very clucky when changing into 3rd from 4th and into 5th from 4th.

Your symptoms seem to be more and more following the TPI Link:- ZF 6HP19A tiptronic gearbox (A6 3.0 TDI Quattro) (http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?141671-ZF-6HP19A-tiptronic-gearbox-%28A6-3-0-TDI-Quattro%29)

As discussed in IM I will do video of my MVB's of gearbox for you :) ...

Here is an extract from the TPI....



Customer statement / workshop findings

2. Vibrations/juddering during the control phase of the converter clutch (see Note under Cause)
Vehicles with 6 speed automatic gearbox (09L).

Technical background

The clutch generates briefly (about 500 ms) noises or vibrations/juddering when changing gear.

Note: This entry only applies to vibrations/juddering during the control phase of the converter clutch.
The converter condition can be checked in MVB 007/3 (converter open/ convertercontrol/ converter
shut).

[Cwizard]

Thanks a bunch mate! Try giving yours a sip of wine :beerchug:(Liqui moly for diesel) and see if it makes a difference. I'm really curious.
I'll keep on scanning mine to see if any error codes come up. In the meantime... :confused:

[gupsterg]

Before viewing video look at this image and read below...

http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/gupsterg/2_7%203_0%20TDi%20stuff/GearboxMVB_zpsf8eb77fb.jpg

So use MVB 01 03 07 in module 2...

Note 1 (red lines) Torq.Con.slip is the difference between engine revs and transmission revs...

Note 2 (blue line) Torq.Con.Clutch status, without going in depth from what I've been reading explained below :Blush2:...

TC Open = when Torq.Con is free wheel allowed greater variation in slip (also when tran.cold)...

TC Reg = when Torq.Con being regulated to only slip between a range... highest figure I noted was 160 /min in Torque converter slip data window 4 of MVB 07

TC Locked = when Torq.Con is locked fully, no slippage, this occur when engine speed & transmission speed match...

Again all of this is kept as simple so I can make sense to myself & you :Blush2:...

Besides the revs/sounds in video as to what occurring in driving style (green/yellow lines), brake light switch window will show BRAKE when I brake..

Right heres the video...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpMloZuyWYk

A good and current thread Link:- VWVortex.com - Phaeton ATF Concern (Please Help!) (http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5517943-Phaeton-ATF-Concern-%28Please-Help!%29)

Read & absorb above... it is same tranny in that thread... good info...

Now if you have torque converter issue then slippage will be great in TC reg mode...



We can log Measuring block #7, which will show TCC status in field #3 (open, control, or closed) as well as TCC slip in field #4 (RPM difference). For the 5-speed, VW TSB specified to replace the TC if the slip was over 120 RPM in control or over 10 RPM when closed.

Link post:- VWVortex.com - Phaeton ATF Concern (Please Help!) (http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5517943-Phaeton-ATF-Concern-%28Please-Help!%29&p=75411108&viewfull=1#post75411108)

I know guy is talking about a 5 speed box but the principle is the same... the thread is on a 6HP-19 Link:- VWVortex.com - Phaeton ATF Concern (Please Help!) (http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5517943-Phaeton-ATF-Concern-%28Please-Help!%29&p=74854448&viewfull=1#post74854448)

I found this a good read as well... Link:- HowStuffWorks "How Torque Converters Work" (http://auto.howstuffworks.com/auto-parts/towing/towing-capacity/information/torque-converter.htm)

[Cwizard]

Ok, don't know where to start from....

I called an Audi dealership that was about 100kms or so away from me (furthest). They gave me a good price for oil+filter change so decided to take it. It was 2 hours notice BTW for the booking.
This is what they've found:

1.Requires 6 glow plugs $626
2.Front discs and pads $1050
3.front and rear undertray broken

4.transmission sump bent upwards $1500
As for this they said that the previous owner probably hit a big rock and it damaged the transmission oil sump. They cannot say whether it has any effect on the operation of the gearbox itself. But they do recommend fixing that.
They said that they'll replace the sump, filter, oil, gasket and a few more things as far as i can remember. They also said that the tranny isn't showing any signs wear.

NUMBER 5. Pulsation dampner!
They told me this caused the REVS to fluctuate while stationary and while driving.
It costs a staggering $120 including fitting.:aargh4:

Well there you are Gup, go on and change that and the fluctuation should stop immediately... only $120...

[gupsterg]

NUMBER 5. Pulsation dampner!
They told me this caused the REVS to fluctuate while stationary and while driving.
It costs a staggering $120 including fitting.:aargh4:

Well there you are Gup, go on and change that and the fluctuation should stop immediately... only $120...

Am I correctly reading $120...

[Cwizard]

lol AUD 120. not pounds... thats 79.5459 GBP

:beerchug:

Im gonna get it done ASAP!

[gupsterg]

NUMBER 5. Pulsation dampner!
They told me this caused the REVS to fluctuate while stationary and while driving.
It costs a staggering $120 including fitting.:aargh4:

Well there you are Gup, go on and change that and the fluctuation should stop immediately... only $120...

I know for my VIN there is an issue with the crankshaft dampener/pulley... when I viewed mine it all looked good...

Just so we are on the same page of the book... look at below photo... is the pulsation dampener the big black pulley (outlined in pink)...

http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/gupsterg/2_7%203_0%20TDi%20stuff/V6Belts_3_zpsad534f9c.jpg

[Cwizard]

I've been looking all over the internet and cannot find a single picture of the pulsation dampener thingy. The Audi technician told me a rubber seal has deteriorated..or the dampener thingy is leaking oil.. thats as much as i remember. I cannot confirm that whats circled in pink is that actual part. It might be... Sorry i can't be of much help. When i do take my Audi back i will try and take a few photos and also get more details about it including part numbers etc....
You might have better luck asking someone that understands how pulsation dampeners work and where they are located....

Gonna continue checking the net.... :confused: like a pirate!

[gupsterg]

Hi chap :),

Any update?

Today I was able to make more sense of the TPI/TSB... Link:- ZF 6HP19A tiptronic gearbox (A6 3.0 TDI Quattro) - Page 2 (http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?141671-ZF-6HP19A-tiptronic-gearbox-%28A6-3-0-TDI-Quattro%29&p=786001#post786001)

So from understanding firstly check serial number of gearbox if it need update software & oil... next it seems MY05 eg 2004 cars are more likely to need the SW & oil change... next point is to get MVBs via VCDS/Diags done, then decide oil/next step...

ATB
G

[Cwizard]

13 hour shifts = no time to take a ****... lol to put it in a rude manner....Can't wait to get some free time to attempt to change the GPs. The glow plugs have finally arrived... ... ... 13 years later..... ... When cars don't run on fuel anymore... ... haha
They came bundled up all together. When i took the package i heard metal of metal knocking noises. Is that ok packaging? Would it cause any damage to them? All of them together in bubble wrap.
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[gupsterg]

They came bundled up all together. When i took the package i heard metal of metal knocking noises. Is that ok packaging? Would it cause any damage to them? All of them together in bubble wrap.

Should be ok, not ideal package, mine were individually packed in cardboard boxes... quick check you can do before fitting with multimeter...




Use an ohm meter to check the resistance between the thread and the connector.
Resistance should be below 6 ohms or so. It may be very small (under 1 ohm).
High resistance or infinite resistance indicates a bad plug.

[TheMatador]

Great thread chaps - hope things are looking dandy now Cwizard. Needless to say I'm now crapping myself at some of the potential issues!!

The pink circle in the photo above is the crank pulley for the auxillary belt. I know because I've had to replace it! My aux belt snapped at 100k miles. Also had to replace one of the guide pulleys and the tensioner pulley.

Did you get the pulsation damper fitted in the end? Was it on the fuel line?

[Cwizard]

The person questioned knows nothing more than the person questioning... lol
No idea mate. If i get it fixed eventually ill update this forum with it.

[gupsterg]

Just to add further info to the thread...


The pink circle in the photo above is the crank pulley for the auxillary belt.

Link:- Harmonic balancer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_balancer)

[TheMatador]

Yeah, I know that's also a damper but the part alone costs £250 so nothing like this mysterious $120 to fix the issue on overrun. I had to replace mine when the aux belt snapped and the whole job was £500. (Other than a service, I've yet to have any work done that doesn't cost at least £500! A single rear damper was £720 fitted, and none of this is at a dealership.)

For $120 it must be something to do with the fuel line and I can't see how that will sort the revs on overrun. To my mind its got to be something to do with the gearbox software...

[gupsterg]

Hi Cwizard :) ...


You remember you posted video below...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ST_-jtJrlM

Well here's my investigation/experience share of the area you filmed...

Link:- Oil residue on turbo face and/or output charge air pipe ... (http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?144903-Oil-residue-on-turbo-face-and-or-output-charge-air-pipe)

ATB
G

[Cwizard]

Yes i certainly remember. I've been driving mine as it is. Still waiting for the first snow to fall on the mountains to get my GPs changed. When that gets done i'll probably book it in for gearbox oil change etc...
I am following the threads as much as possible. Sad i can't contribute much. Long hours at work.... :-(

[Cwizard]

I've given the GPs to the dealership to change. They also changed the pulsation damper including some hoses and thingys. I also had a coolant flush. All in all, car feels more responsive. Revs fluctuation is still there tho, including the fluctuation while decelerating.
Going to get the tranny flushed and oil change to see if that helps with the revs while driving. Doing many k's since my last post. No problems other than those unexplained rev issues. Brake light has come on and i can't find genuine brakes+pads (front) anywhere. Only $tealerships have them. 1 grand to get em changed tho.

[gupsterg]

They also changed the pulsation damper including some hoses and thingys

Can you confirm that the "pulsation damper" is the seal I changed on mine? (Link in post 44) Thanks :) ...

[Cwizard]

How about i take a photo tomorrow and then ill post it here... You'll see exactly what it is. since its all new n' shiny... :biglaugh:

[TheMatador]

I genuine brakes+pads (front) ....1 grand to get em changed tho.

You're kidding right! I've done the rears myself and it was a doddle. Genuine parts from the dealer were the same price as aftermarket (about £100 for brakes and discs - though I think that was with 15% discount as part of the Colbornes club for owners with cars over 3 yrs old). Fronts will be more but not 10 times. I wouldn't worry about getting genuine parts. Decent brand alternatives will be fine and its not a difficult job if you have the tools. I have another set of pads in the garage ready and they cost £35 from the local autofactors and include all the necessary replacement bolts and clips.

[MarkTM]

^^^Mat a grand in Aussie money...that's circa £650 in GBP.

Even so that's double what we pay as had mine done all around and it was £320 supply and fit, but methinks servicing attracts that premium down under :(

Would imagine that a UK Audi main dealer would charge similar to Wizards Oz price though for supply and fit?

[Cwizard]

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[gupsterg]

Thanks mate :) ...

So it is what me and Link:- jubbly (http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/member.php?25007-jubbly) replaced on our cars and they have fitted a clip on the hose like on the 2009 - 2011 V6 has but the 2004 - 2008 does not from when I checked info ...

After fitting the hose clamp on mine I have been viewing the small hose interconnect section on the charge air system on mine and no oil residue has formed on it :) , it's nearly been a month since doing this mod ;) ...

Just checked your original video and I saw that you never had a clip on the hose before either ...

Sorry to hear it has not resolved your issue and hope the tranny oil change fix it for you mate :grouphug: ...

ATB
G

[A6quattro3.0]

Gents

just googled 3.0 tdi crankshaft pulley and found this thread. Today mine fell off, leaving me a bit stuck. Car must have been a bit upset as i was just in a dealership looking at a jag sportbrake :)

[gupsterg]

Read a few V6 TDi's doing this now, mainly the early ones. There was is a TSB about it near the end of this thread Link:- Broken...Gutted :( (http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?139306-Broken-Gutted-%28)