Cost of replacement clutch and Dual Mass Flywheel (2.0TDI)

[rufus2005]

Hi,

I see a lot of you have had replacement clutches and dual mass fly wheels on your 2.0TDi 143's. I would be interested to know the cheapest price any of you have been quoted for the work.

So far I have had £1800 from Halfords Autocentre, £1264 from local indy and £2365 from Audi dealer.

[Brycie]

My local indi has just quoted me around about £780 & I trust his work as I've used him a few times, know he does a good job and always insists on using genuine parts. He said he'd also just done a Passat using the conversion kit to put a solid flywheel in, so he gave me that option too. I'll stick to the dmf though. That' based on my 140 bhp engine though.

[rufus2005]

That sounds excellent brycie, is that on the commonrail engine or PD? dont know if there would be much difference in price betwen the two.

[Brycie]

That's on the PD engine, not sure what the difference would be if you have the CR engine, hopefully someone can answer for you soon.

[rufus2005]

yeah cheers for that. Ive only just brought the car so am going to monitor the clutch and try and hold out for a few months if possible but just trying to get a cheaper price. Certainly not paying that daylight robbery price of £2300 from dealer

[magt1000]

How old is your car Rufus? Audi dealerships should be doing fixed price servicing for your car if its over three years old:

Fixed-price servicing < Servicing with Audi < Owners area < Audi UK (http://www.audi.co.uk/owners-area/servicing-with-audi/affordable-servicing.html)

A new clutch is £749 all in. The DMF is next to no additional labour but I think the part cost is about £300. So a dealership should not be quoting you much over £1000 if you qualify for those fixed servicing costs.

I had my clutch and DMF replaced by a local Audi specialist indi at about 85k. He seems to have done a good job and sourced the parts from the local Audi dealership. He charged approx £850 - 900 all in (I can't remember exactly).

How many miles has your car done out of interest?

[rufus2005]

Hi magt1000 my car is a 2008 model so youre right I should qualify for fixed price, I had forgotten that, I have made use of that on my previous B7 for servicing.

The price from your indi sounds great, perhaps you can give me some details of them.

My car has done 93k, the clutch isnt slipping but i am getting some judder if I dont give it enough welly when pulling away and I can feel quite a lot of vibration through the pedal, will see how it goes for a while i think until I have the funds

[magt1000]

I never had any juddder with mine, just clutch slip. See my posts in this thread for more info:

High Mileage? (http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?133395-High-Mileage)

I just checked and it was actually a BMW specialist recommended to me by a colleague who drives a 3 series estate. However, they have recently purchased all of kit to work with Audi vehicles and provided me with very good service.

Bensten Motors Ltd: BMW Specialists / Servicing St Ives, Cambs » Home (http://www.benstenmotors.co.uk/)

Based in St Neots, South Cambridgeshire - he sourced the parts from the Audi dealership in St Neots.

[rufus2005]

Ah thats interesting, differing symptoms. My 2005 saab 9-3 Tid had a lot of vibration through the clutch pedal too but kept going fine until I changed cars so who knows maybe fingers crossed this clutch can hang on in there for a while.

Thanks for the info on specialist, thats ideal, its only about 20 minutes from me

[Brycie]

I have the same symptoms as you Rufus2005, the really bad judder. There other members on here that haven't had the judder but have had rattling noises. magt1000's symtoms are the third variation I've heard now.

I've had the judders for a while now & have been telling myself I can put it off as I do a lot more motorway driving than most (about 80% motorway). I've been getting a bit more nervous recently though, like when I got caught in heavy traffic on the M62 (the M25 of the North) & the constant clutch use inching along car length at a time for 20 miles, 2nd gear became virtually unusable & I was trying to avoid using it by over-revving in first so I could jump straight into third. That wasn't a nice experience I can tell you :(.

The other option for changing mine that I'm considering is the AA warranty that My Dad has (it's connected to his breakdown cover, I think). Basically if you have this cover the AA will recover you, tow you to a garage of your choice, the garage'll diagnose it & report to the AA. The AA agree to pay the first £500 of the repair minus your excess payment (£50-£100 I think). So at the end of the day, I'll be paying (worst case scenario) £100 excess plus £270 extra that the £500 doesn't cover. Bing, DMF & Clutch replaced for a maximum of £370. I hasten to add, I'd need to look into this in more detail, but may be worth looking at (reading the small print) if you have the time.

[rufus2005]

Yeah I can imagine thta would be a knightmare in heavy traffic. Do you get a kind of creaky feeling through the clutch pedal near the bottom of its travel?

I actually have that AA repair cover that you are talking about as well as warranty direct cover, I seem to remember the aa wont cover clutches though. Will double check in the morning

[Brycie]

Now that you mention it my clutch does creak, but only ever in hot weather. I thought it was just the heat drying the grease on the pedal making the pedal creaky. Interesting thought though if yours does it too, it could be related to the dmf then I suppose.

Ah well, there goes my bright idea about the repair cover :biglaugh:. Guess I'll have to take the full payment on the chin then, thanks for saving me a lot of digging around in AA fine print.

[rufus2005]

Brycie, I have checked out the terms and conditions for the AA breakdown repair cover, this is what it says re clutch. "Clutch - All parts are covered other than worn-out friction surfaces".

I wonder how we would stand there? is this issue caused by worn out friction surfaces?

[Brycie]

Unfortunately I believe that sums up the dmf to a tee. Back to the drawing board I'm afraid. It would have been nice idea in an ideal wold, but the dmf is a kind of cushioned plate that wears away over time & use afaik.

[gupsterg]

Check this PDF page 2... LINK:- http://www.zf.com/media/media/en/document/corporate_2/downloads_1/flyer_and_brochures/cars_flyer/kupplungssystemefrpkwbis800nm.pdf

17249


would friction material be clutch plate... so clutch plate not covered but maybe DMF is... again would it depend on if workshop replacing would deem DMF iffy...

as going by posts some workshops replace both others only friction material...

from page 3 of above PDF...

17250

pages 9 & 10 good DMF info... so as an owner/meddler 2 cents worth.. :)

again this is a generalisation ... PDF by ZF one/a gearbox manufacturer used in Audi's

[Brycie]

As I'm at work at the mo I can't check the pdf, will have a gander later, but based on what you've said Gup, I'd say it would be down to semantics of the wording of the AA clauses & we couldn't rely on getting their contribution, even if the garage said the dmf did need to be replaced. Am I getting the point of what you're saying there?

[gupsterg]

Only my view at mo...

DMF may not be classed as friction material... AFAIK as I understand DMF is what become the new version of a flywheel on the crankshaft...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbvP5EvpUbA

Clutch plate is friction material...

[Brycie]

Hmm, interesting then, very interesting. I think I may have to enquire with their customer services as to whether this & a few other things such as intercooler, oil pump, injectors etc would be covered. Will report back, thanks for your input Gup.

[gupsterg]

I would be interested to know what they say... from my brush with after market warranties etc they varies so much provider to provider...

[Brycie]

I'll post it up. I know my Dad's had a couple of payments out of them without hassle, but you do need to read the fine print on these things, don't you. Rufus, have you had any claims on the repair cover yet?

[markp306]

I've had the judders for a while now & have been telling myself I can put it off as I do a lot more motorway driving than most (about 80% motorway). I've been getting a bit more nervous recently though, like when I got caught in heavy traffic on the M62 (the M25 of the North) & the constant clutch use inching along car length at a time for 20 miles, 2nd gear became virtually unusable & I was trying to avoid using it by over-revving in first so I could jump straight into third. That wasn't a nice experience I can tell you :(.

I put this DMF issue off for a while too and unfortunately ended up with a damaged clutch as "a bonus", so it may not pay to ignore it. Audi's fixed price (3+ year old) repair for both is £1900, but cheaper at indi's.

[Brycie]

Thanks for the head's up Mark, I will be getting it done asap. I wouldn't feel too annoyed with yourself though, most of the members in the know on the forum & most mechanics recommend replacing the clutch when you do the dmf anyway, so you may have ended up paying for both anyway, so you can stop kicking yourself :D.

Thanks again though.

[magt1000]

I put this DMF issue off for a while too and unfortunately ended up with a damaged clutch as "a bonus", so it may not pay to ignore it. Audi's fixed price (3+ year old) repair for both is £1900, but cheaper at indi's.

I can't believe that it could be as much as £1900. The fixed price for a new clutch is £749 and fitting a new DMF does not require that much more labour because once you have the clutch assembly off the DMF is right there. The part cost for a DMF is about £300 not over a grand....

[rufus2005]

I'll post it up. I know my Dad's had a couple of payments out of them without hassle, but you do need to read the fine print on these things, don't you. Rufus, have you had any claims on the repair cover yet?

No I only took out that cover recently on my previous B7 as I had gone over 130k and my warranty direct cover ended, so I cant comment on what there like.

I think when I have the funds for the repair I may try and get it done on either the AA breakdown Repair Cover or warranty direct.

Warranty direct cover says flywheel is covered, and as far as the clutch goes it says "clutch cable, master cylinder, pedal assembly, slave cylinder" are covered.

Dont really know what that means, I dont have the mechanical expertise to say what them precise parts are.

[rufus2005]

Here the policy documents if there of any use.

http://www.theaa.com/breakdown-cover/pdfs/breakdown-repair-cover-policy-july-2011.pdf
http://www.warrantydirect.co.uk/pdfs/6727-WD_Policy_BK_ExtraCare.pdf

[Brycie]

Well I didn't think I was up to reading lots of small print as I've just taken 3 hours to retrace my steps for the last month to fill in my fuel expenses for work - I hate doing that.

However, I've had a quick look & the fact that the policy says you need to be 'broken down' ("as a result of mechanical or electrical failure and as a result, be prevented from continuing it's journey safely") to qualify for the cover. So basically it sounds like you'd have to drive it til the dmf actually goes completely. Now some time ago I asked the question about the dangers of continuing to drive with a damaged dmf & A8 Tech wrote the following:


the dmf can lock up if you continue to drive it and also the inner springs from the dmf can smash the gearbox

A solid flywheel is not advised as there is no cushion when taking the drive up and extra load will be present on the input shaft

However I have fitted the LUK solid flywheel in a number of 1.9 pd passats (http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B005I5BK0Q/) with no issue reported by the owners



So Rufus, I'd say it's probably not going to be possible to use the AA cover unless you want to run it til it seizes & then you risk the gearbox as well. A bit gutted, but I guess I'll just have to start saving hard.

[rufus2005]

im with you on the paperwork, putting off a couple of months worth of accounts right now lol.

ah bummer, I guess I will just get the 800 notes together and use the local indi that was recommended earlier in the thread.

[gupsterg]

Warranty direct cover says flywheel is covered, and as far as the clutch goes it says "clutch cable, master cylinder, pedal assembly, slave cylinder" are covered.

They are covering parts which AFAIK I understand in mechanical language are not service items but classed as parts... service items eg air filter, oil, oil filter,etc...

And friction material not covered eg clutch plate as that must be classed as wear and tear item like brake pads, exhaust etc again these in mechanical language would be service items AFAIK...


Dont really know what that means, I dont have the mechanical expertise to say what them precise parts are.

please ref PDF in post 15... page 3... I have blown image up and marked items below...

17261

From my understanding as not a mechanic... :o

When clutch pedal depressed/released (1), master cylinder (2) signals slave cylinder (3) to engage/disengage clutch plate via mechanical releaser (4)...

On the cars I have had previously there is oil in master cylinder (2) which when clutch pedal depressed/released causes slave cylinder (3) make mechanical releaser (4) engage/disengage clutch plate but sometimes there can be a clutch cable in between master cylinder (2) slave cylinder (3) and they will still have oil in them as well...

again this is a generalisation ... ;)

[rufus2005]

many thanks for the info gupsterg. Very helpful to start to understand exactly how it works. Either way it looks like I will have to bite the bullet soon and pay up.

[markp306]

I can't believe that it could be as much as £1900. The fixed price for a new clutch is £749 and fitting a new DMF does not require that much more labour because once you have the clutch assembly off the DMF is right there. The part cost for a DMF is about £300 not over a grand....

I was just writing up what I was quoted by Audi...but didn't pay!

Interesting thought though - you would expect some common labour charges.

[gregpot2000]

I have been quoted £750 by IVS in Huddersfield for clutch and DMF replacement, I have used them before for my pressure sensor, and I have seen a few recommended them on here.

but my other local indie (also used before) has quoted £1200.

This leads me to think.....are IVS too cheap? is there something they could be missing out at that price?

It's only a very small operation (basically 2 guys in a small shed) so I guess they won't have high overheads, but still curious to know?

They class themselves as VW and Audi Specialists as well.

Any advice welcome!

[Brycie]

750-800 is a ballpark figure I've heard a few indies quote, including mine who I've used for 3 years for both our cars. Again, small operation with low overheads. Don't discount it on that basis. As I say, I've heard a few on here saying that sort of price so I wouldn't necessarily midtrust it. It may be a good idead to find out the OEM manufacturer & just ensure your indi is using that make. I know my indi always insists on using genuine partswhich is peace of mind for me.

[gregpot2000]

HI Again!

I have decided to get this done now, my reasoning being that it will need doing in the next few months anyway, and I would rather be without my car for a couple of days when the weather is still decent, than having to get the bus to work in the middle of December!

I have just rung the garage again, and they have confirmed it would be the LUK kit they used for £750, I'm pretty sure this is the OEM part, and if not very close to the same quality, if not better from things I have read.

Can anyone confirm to me?

I'm 99% certain my problems are DMF related, but I going to see him after work, just to get his opinion to confirm it for certain so I am not wasting all that money.

Although it's still a lot of money, and I would prefer not to spend it, my car is on 110k so it's not to be unexpected, plus I know from experience how fitting a new clutch really freshens up the drive of a car, it goes from being really stiff to feather light. so I am looking forward to the improvement on this front as well, and if the whole lot lasts another 100k then that's likely to be more than enough for my length of ownership.

thanks

[rufus2005]

Brycie, dont know if your still active on here, did you get your clutch/DMF sorted in the end?

[Brycie]

Still here Rufus, but not got it sorted yet. Hoping it won't be more than a couple of months before I get it done though.

[rufus2005]

ah excellent. Mine is in as we speak and trying to get the cost of flywheel and and labour covered under warranty, they seemed fine about it over the phone so will let you know how we get on. Mine has got considerably worse now and wouldnt start as the car didnt think clutch pedal was pressed etc. Also struggling to select gears when cold.

Will keep you posted.

[Brycie]

It's been too easy for us to put it off. No symptoms as bad as yours yet, 40,000 miles since the judder started & it's still manageable.

I don't want to jinx it for you, so I won't comment too much, but my fingers will be crossed for good news with the claim.

[belly buster]

I have just had this done at my local independant garage (VW/Audi specialists) and paid £1,500 all done.

It sounds like there may have been cheaper options but to be honest I didn't know that it was a clutch and DMF issue until the car was already in bits in their workshop.

[rufus2005]

Sounds like you didn't have much choice at that stage belly buster.

Does the car feel a lot better now?

[rufus2005]

Quick Update.

Brycie, good news, Warranty Direct agreed to pay towards the repairs. I dont know exactly what im being refunded yet, but it seems as though they are going to pay for the cost of flywheel (Minus my mileage excess) plus all of the labour. Very pleased with this result.

By all accounts my flywheel was literally broken to pieces, neither the garage or the warranty company had seen one like it before. This had obviously done damage to the clutch too so it was a miracle that the car was driveable at all.

Cant believe how light the clutch is now. Lets hope yours holds out as long as possible for you brycie.

Big thank you and recommendation to Autowerks2010 who are based in Wellingborough, Northamptonshire who were so helpful, would highly recommend them to anyone in the area.

Rufus

[belly buster]

Well there's a bit of a story there that I didn't want to go into late last night.

When I picked the car up all was not well. To start the car I had to bury my foot into the carpet to trigger the clutch switch, and even then it was hit and miss as to whether it would start.

Ran it for a week but didn't loosen up, so I took it back to the garage. Turns out the replacement parts were modified (I guess strengthened) but they didn't fit a corresponding modified part which caused the clutch switch issue. After taking the car back in, all was put right - and thankfully at no extra cost.

Now this work has been done the car is running really well.

[rufus2005]

Exactly the same problem I had with pushing the clutch pedal through floor, and even then it took up to a dozen attempts before it would start. I hope ive had this modified part then or I will end up going back to the garage, ive only started it once since repair which was when I collected it, that was fine. I thought there was something wrong as the clutch was so light lol.

Hope your probs are sorted now belly buster for at least 100k miles

[Brycie]

Brilliant news all round then! Always refreshing to hear that garages and warranty companies do the right thing sometimes.

[fat controller]

Brilliant news all round then! Always refreshing to hear that garages and warranty companies do the right thing sometimes.

Wish I could say the same!

Update to the thread on mine (http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?140430-Quick-opinion-please&p=787560#post787560)

[rufus2005]

Wish I could say the same!

Update to the thread on mine (http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?140430-Quick-opinion-please&p=787560#post787560)


Yeah i been following your thread with interest FC. Im sure with enough money thrown at it with good legal advice we could get the whole job covered including clutch as the flywheel is the item that caused the damage, but its such a headache.

I was determined to put my job through warranty as I have a friend who is a saab indy and he said he has never seen a clutch that is completely worn, damage is almost always caused by a damaged DMF and he says its the same on most cars. Its strange though that if you type Dual Mass Flywheel into google most of the issues that come up are with VW/Audis.

I wish you luck with it and hope it gets sorted soon without too much expense to you.

Rufus

[Andrew Turner]

Has anyone had a clutch last much over 100k miles? My 2.0tdi has done just over 120k and there is no paperwork to say it has been replaced yet, and the peddle is still pretty light and i don't think there is any judder or slip. I'm hoping that it has been changed and the previous owner didn't keep the receipt, but there is paperwork for loads of other work, so I'm not sure. Every time I drive it i am expecting to feel the tell tale signs.... Maybe I should start saving now!

[rufus2005]

Will be interesting to see if many owners have managed your miles on 1st clutch and DMF Andrew. I think you you start putting some cash aside in case yours suddenly starts to give up. Hopefully that wont be for ages!

[Andrew Turner]

I reckon it's been changed already. There is no vibration at all, the peddle is still light and i can pull away without touching the accelerator which means there is no slip. Might try and contact the previous owner via the garage I bought it from. I hate not knowing!
Will be interesting to see if many owners have managed your miles on 1st clutch and DMF Andrew. I think you you start putting some cash aside in case yours suddenly starts to give up. Hopefully that wont be for ages!

[rufus2005]

Yeah sounds like it may have been changed. A lot of us here that have had clutch/DMF problems havent had clutch slip but have suffered from bad judder or starting issues cuased by damaged flywheels, mine was in pieces and the Fat Controllers sounds like it was in a terrible state by all accounts.

[magt1000]

My first clutch lasted 80k. 40k so far on the current one....

[Ratfink]

I had been having trouble selecting second gear when the car A4(143), was cold started. Having viewed a few threads on this forum, I took the car back to Lomond Audi, Ayr, asking that they have a look at it as it is coming to the end of its warranty. They took it in on Thursday last week and called today to say they had fitted a new DMF and clutch as both were defunct.

I am a bit surprised as the only symptom was a sticky second gear. Interestingly they said the work will all be done through the warranty as the clutch and DMF are guaranteed for 60,000 miles or 3 years.
hopefully get the car back tomorrow, bit done as they gave me a lovely brand new A5 to cut about in.

Lomond have been very good so far with all the dealings I have had with them, will definatly go back to them when this car is paid off.

[fishus101]

My 2.0TDI A6 has just hit 91,000 miles and started getting that judder from 1st going into 2nd gear. My local Transmission Specialist has quoted £475 for the new DMF, clutch, bolts and oil with £250 labour. They said it will probably take a whole day but could go into a 2nd day so will lend me a car in the meantime.

[chillsg]

I had been having trouble selecting second gear when the car A4(143), was cold started. Having viewed a few threads on this forum, I took the car back to Lomond Audi, Ayr, asking that they have a look at it as it is coming to the end of its warranty. They took it in on Thursday last week and called today to say they had fitted a new DMF and clutch as both were defunct.

I am a bit surprised as the only symptom was a sticky second gear. Interestingly they said the work will all be done through the warranty as the clutch and DMF are guaranteed for 60,000 miles or 3 years.
hopefully get the car back tomorrow, bit done as they gave me a lovely brand new A5 to cut about in.

Lomond have been very good so far with all the dealings I have had with them, will definatly go back to them when this car is paid off.

Hi Ratfink,

I have just been told the reason for my noisy engine bay is the DMF by an independent and Audi dealer. it's a 58 plate with just less than 60K miles. I bought it from a private car dealer a couple of years ago. do you think it should still be covered by the original 60k warranty from Audi?

Have you seen this warranty term written down somewhere?

Thanks.

[rufus2005]

Fishus, I think that is a reasonable price you got there. The timing seems right, my dmf and clutch replacement took the whole day due to the damage that had been done when the flywheel disintegrated.

ChilsG, have you got any warranty on your car? If not I doubt Audi would be interested due to the age of the car, although if when its stripped you can show that the dmf has failed and damaged the clutch you could possibly get some help from audi if you write a strongly worded letter.

regards

Rufus

[chillsg]

Thanks Rufus, checked the Audi Warranty today. 60K or 3 years whichever comes FIRST. So out of warranty now. Still pretty poor that the clutch and flywheel needs changing at less than 60k miles!

Does anyone know if the Sachs or LUK DMF's available on the market today (eg. Eurocarparts) have been changed in design since when they were fitted to the first B8 A4's ie. 58 plate. Since they were clearly unfit for purpose?

[fat controller]

I was under the impression that they were a modified part.

If its any consolation, you are not alone with a failure at those miles - I had mine replaced at 67k, shortly after I bought the car.

[chillsg]

There does seem to be a theme of these DMF'S failing just outside warranty. Anyone gone down the route of the Sale of goods act 1979 with regard to unfit for purpose/ poor quality either with Audi, the flywheel manufacturer or private dealer? Or even with the creditor if bought through Hire Purchase, since the creditor that has a contractual responsibility to you if the item is faulty?

[fat controller]

There does seem to be a theme of these DMF'S failing just outside warranty. Anyone gone down the route of the Sale of goods act 1979 with regard to unfit for purpose/ poor quality either with Audi, the flywheel manufacturer or private dealer? Or even with the creditor if bought through Hire Purchase, since the creditor that has a contractual responsibility to you if the item is faulty?

The cost of mine was covered fully, partly by the selling dealer and partly by the dealer backed 12-month warranty, so I got lucky. How long have you had the car?

[chillsg]

I bought it just over a year ago. Came with a standard 6 month warranty. Looks like I should have upgraded to the 24 month policy!

[rufus2005]

I think the problem you are going to have with the sale of goods act in this case is that it seems these mileages are pretty normal for most makes of car that have dual mass flywheels. I went through 3 clutches in 1 1/2 years on a new vauxhall astra a few years back due to the dmf causing damage. I also owned a Saab 9-3 Tid and they had the same problem. I now am going to buy a Hyundai Coupe 2.7 V6 as a second car and surprise surprise they have the same issue with clutch/dmf too, in fact its quite common thet they need replacement at as low as 30 odd thousand miles.

So all in all this seems a widespread problem with dmf's.

[chillsg]

Thanks for the info. Fundamentally flawed then. All for the interest in a smoother ride and passenger comfort. They are no good for owners wallet! I have it booked in for Monday. We'll see how long this one lasts. At these sorts of miles per flywheel/ clutch it is something to budget for just like insurance and fuel.

[rufus2005]

yeah it seems they are flawed. Thing is my car had symptoms for about 30,000 miles before i eventually had t replace it at 100,000 miles so cant complain too much

[chillsg]

I have been tempted to leave it for a while as its only been rattling for 5K miles or so, clutch feels a bit odd too (feels like gears are not totally disengaged when changing). But I thought best to change now in case I start to damage other things.

[rufus2005]

Well you will certainly notice a difference when you get it changed. It will be unbelievably light for a few days.

[chillsg]

Well you will certainly notice a difference when you get it changed. It will be unbelievably light for a few days.
...A few days. Nice!

[gregpot2000]

Lol yep, only a few days, I was looking forward to the light feel, but after a week it has stiffened up again. It's still lighter than it was though.
In previous cars it has stayed light until I sold the car!

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[rufus2005]

yeah i nearly put my foot through the floor when I first picked car up after repair, I thought something wasn't connected properly lol. Someone on here before told me it would be light for a week or so and they were dead right.

[larryolaoi]

I've gotten 267k miles out of clutch and dmf so far AudiA6 awx engine, just bought a clutch and dmf for €450 hoping to get ist fitted for €200.

[mtbkitch]

My 2009 2.0d 170 on 102,000 miles is getting bad clutch judder in stop start traffic now so I called Audi and was quoted £750 for the clutch (fixed price) and £1010 for the DMF, so £1760 all in, I asked if they have the DMF price correct as you can buy the genuine LUK kit for less than £500 all in I believe and they said its definitely correct!
I am getting a price from my local garage.......

[Embisix]

Mines done 115k on it's first clutch and time to replace it is looming; no slippage but a wee bit of judder in stop/start traffic after a while. I think the master cylinder needs doing too as the clutch pedal sometime sticks down and the bl**dy thing is in the bell housing! Anyway, been quoted £1500.00 all-in for Clutch, DMF and new cylinder, all geniune parts (LUK or Sachs)... Big bill but hey, that's motoring!

[escape]

Has anyone had a clutch last much over 100k miles? My 2.0tdi has done just over 120k and there is no paperwork to say it has been replaced yet, and the peddle is still pretty light and i don't think there is any judder or slip. I'm hoping that it has been changed and the previous owner didn't keep the receipt, but there is paperwork for loads of other work, so I'm not sure. Every time I drive it i am expecting to feel the tell tale signs.... Maybe I should start saving now!

Mine is on 142k and going in next Thursday for new clutch and DMF

Received full service history and receipts and this is the first replacement

58 plate 2.0tdi it slipped for the very first time towing a caravan up Telegraph hill on way to Torquay 5 years ago and has suffered from intermittent slipping every since...
The Welsh highlands finally sealed the deal last week with a massive amount of slipping and that awful smell !!!