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g-black
13-03-2011, 12:12 AM
Finally got my skyline lights installed. I bought the LED circuits from Belgium and spent all day fitting them. This was a modification I feel in love with when I first saw it nearly to years ago.

So I decided to do a full right up on it incase anyone else fancied giving it ago.

First off all you'll need VCDS. You'll need to add in a second rear fog light, fog light as driving light and fog light as brake light. Once you've done that, you'll have an error light to say rear left brake light not working. This is because when you activate fog light as driving light, the central electrics automatically think that the car has to rear fog lights, so to cancel the error, you need to find pin 4 on connection B behind the relays in the drivers side foot well.

http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt349/gblackb6/e30d5d3d.jpg

http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt349/gblackb6/59c5ce2b.jpg

http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt349/gblackb6/80ea66a6.jpg

Once the wire is in, I then added a load resistor and ground the wire.

Next stage is to get the LED circuits into the tail lights. To start with, remove the lense from from the light using a heat gun and a small flat head screwdriver.

http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt349/gblackb6/967a7f69.jpg

Once removed, unscrew the back of the light and unclip the centre of the light.

http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt349/gblackb6/951b526d.jpg

The next stage takes time and needs to be done carefully. All the holes for the LEDs need to be drilled out and the backs sanded down. Be carefully not to scratch the chrome on the front of the lense as this will be seen when finished.

http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt349/gblackb6/a8f603b6.jpg

Once the holes are all drilled then rebuild the light with the circuit added in.

http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt349/gblackb6/ec93daf5.jpg

Once this is done, the lense needs glued back onto the light. Make sure you get it right first time as there's no going back! Once there glued on your done.

http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt349/gblackb6/c6116192.jpg

For fitting them into the car, remove the boot liner to make wiring easier. For now, I just crimped the wires, bit I plan to get OEM wires and clips so that the lights can come in and out and just cause I'm fussy! Wire both the new LED rings into the existing fog light wiring and then you can wire up both the reverse light into both sides. (this will require a LHD rear light cluster, giving the right hand side fog a clear lense)

Then sit back and enjoy your new lights!

http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt349/gblackb6/c9f9fd3b.jpg

Reverse lights (now I can see where I'm going!)

http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt349/gblackb6/de027705.jpg

Foglights.

http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt349/gblackb6/d2ed7559.jpg

logiclee
13-03-2011, 12:25 AM
Great write up.

Where did you get the LED circuits from?

Cheers
Lee

g-black
13-03-2011, 12:34 AM
I bought them from a guy on Ukpassats. The only person I'm the world who actually still makes them and would post a set to me!

Think I covered all the basic points of the how to but you could spend all day going over every little point!

ToMBoY_C
13-03-2011, 10:07 AM
Nice job matey, join the club ;)

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e114/ToMBoY_C/DSCF3281.jpg

Seemed a very long way round though!!

manity
13-03-2011, 11:14 AM
nice mod has anyone got a contact name for the ring lights. also the yellow wire from front fuse box where does it go and how do you connect the load resistor any pics please.

g-black
13-03-2011, 11:22 AM
I'm still waiting on the resistor to arrive in the post. When it's here I'll post more pictures.

It was a long way round it but I'd never seen them for sale any other way! How did you wire yours in Tom?

Zeb
13-03-2011, 05:32 PM
This seems very,very interesting :) Will be thinking of doing this soon :D

manity
13-03-2011, 10:04 PM
right ive ordered my led rings got a lhd reverse light coming off ebay got 2 silver coated white bulbs to go into the new reverse lights. Tomboy you said it was a long way round can you do a tutorial of how you done yours.

g-black thanks for the step by step guide im looking forward to doing mine..:approve:

only thing im not sure of!! where does the yellow wire go from fuse box.. :1zhelp:
and whats the order number of the cable that goes into the fusebox

g-black
14-03-2011, 12:19 AM
Yellow wire is 000 979 150 E. Just ground the wire, with a load resistor, to the best possible chassis bolt, bearing in mind that the resistor gets very warm so keep it clear of anything. I'll fomd somewhere and show you where I put mine.

As far as I'm aware Tom bought his lights pre built.

The bulbs that are in the reverse and fog lights will work fine cause there clear.

Sti_Prodrive
14-03-2011, 11:12 AM
Been wanting to do this/find a set for sale !! such a mission & headache to go thru when you dont know what your doing!! Very good post G-Black :notworthy

Thanks

podwin
14-03-2011, 11:42 AM
Much more thorough than my bodge, well done.

manity
14-03-2011, 11:57 AM
can you take a couple of pics of the settings change in vcds or instructions. cheers

g-black
14-03-2011, 01:41 PM
Byte 10, 15% rear fog as parking light
Byte 21 bit 4, check, rear fog light as brake light.*
Byte 19 bit 3+6, unchecked, cancel cold diagnostics for fog light and reverse light.
Think that's all that needs changed!

ToMBoY_C
14-03-2011, 03:19 PM
Tomboy you said it was a long way round can you do a tutorial of how you done yours


In short matey, I powered both bootlid rings from the parking light of the outside rear cluster light. Plus also added a diode to the brake light of the same cluster so they are brighter when braking :) Hope this makes sense!

manity
14-03-2011, 03:21 PM
i get it but how do you get your fog lights.

ash_pearce
14-03-2011, 03:24 PM
In short matey, I powered both bootlid rings from the parking light of the outside rear cluster light. Plus also added a diode to the brake light of the same cluster so they are brighter when braking :) Hope this makes sense!

Tom could explain the diode to the brake lights a little more please?

I've been considering this mod for a while and have been watching various posts about it, but without access to vcds i thought i could just add the rings and take power from the existing circuits - is that essentially what you've done?

ToMBoY_C
14-03-2011, 03:44 PM
i get it but how do you get your fog lights.

I never touched or messed with either fog light or reverse light, simply the rings were wired in!!


Tom could explain the diode to the brake lights a little more please?

just add the rings and take power from the existing circuits - is that essentially what you've done?

I shall do a wiring diagram for you, essentially, yes :)

ash_pearce
14-03-2011, 03:50 PM
I shall do a wiring diagram for you, essentially, yes :)

Nice one thanks! :beerchug:

podwin
15-03-2011, 10:47 AM
I've found the old how-to thread of when I did mine.

It's more of a bodge homemade effort than G-Blacks, might be interesting for some though...

http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=72904

ash_pearce
15-03-2011, 11:35 AM
I've found the old how-to thread of when I did mine.

It's more of a bodge homemade effort than G-Blacks, might be interesting for some though...

http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=72904

Good work! I considered this but was unsure how bright they would be, now ive read that you wired four together i think i'll go down this route.

Thanks! :beerchug:

guyke
16-03-2011, 12:45 PM
ok mister g-black
jou did it , was it a little helpfull my explication
i say that jou needed connector c pin 3 , but forgett that jour fogg lights are mounted on the other site :biglaugh:
so jou figure it out that jou needed connector b pin 4 :biggthump
nice work
jou dont have to deactivate the cold diagnostics , normal whit the resistor on place it shoud work whitout having a fault warning in jour display

g-black
16-03-2011, 01:12 PM
I cancelled them just incase. All worked really well. Although the left light stopped working last night but think it's probably one of my loose connections! Load resistor arrived yesterday so I'll fit it tonight. Thanks for your help and I'm very pleased with the result!

guyke
16-03-2011, 02:17 PM
the only thing i saw is that jou removed the steering case , this was not needed
jou just have to remove the pannel underneed the steering colom , its only 3 scews
in that pannel is the connector for vcds , and than remove the pannel where the opening for the hood is , behind that pannel jou have a nice connection for the minus off the resistor and i mound the resistor on the metal off the carr also behind that pannel
ist normaly 15 minutes work

Sti_Prodrive
17-03-2011, 02:33 PM
So .. Who wants to feel the qaulity of my money hey ;) ???? Who's willing to do this for me then onto my car ?? I'm willing to pay anyone who knows how to do this properly without messing it up & how long will it take you ??










Cashing is just sitting there waiting to be spent on somthing silly :D

g-black
17-03-2011, 02:42 PM
DIY! Is not as hard as it looks really. It's hard to stuff it up. I had a spare old cluster that I tested on first. Get yourself a second hand unit and smash it up to practice!

guyke
17-03-2011, 02:45 PM
iff jou want to make a nice ride to belgieum i will built them for jou , and mount them in jour carr

jou can also send jour lights te me and i will modifie them for jou , than jou only need to find someone to fix them in jour carr

g-black
18-03-2011, 07:03 PM
Found out why one of the lights stopped working. The solder on the PCB came loose after using for lights. Heated it with soldering iron and used a little glue to hold it in place. Problem solved!

Also got the resistor fitted today, and as promised, took a photo of where I put it.

http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt349/gblackb6/408f4006.jpg

And also took another couple off photos.

http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt349/gblackb6/6588d4e3.jpg

guyke
18-03-2011, 07:35 PM
verry nice :You_Rock_:fing02:

Sti_Prodrive
19-03-2011, 04:40 PM
OMG IT LOOKS VERY NICE! :beerchug:

G-Black.. I wish i did know what im doing.. its not the case pal.. Ive been looking for a set of these already done up so all i got to do it plug & play! I dont have a clue with it comes down to wiring up lights & fuses so on n so 4th.. :(

g-black
19-03-2011, 05:51 PM
You really can't go wrong when it comes to wiring lights. Positive and negative and that's it! I remember the first time I did any electrical work in the car was putting in a new headunit and sub into my polo. The task seemed daunting, but one I read it over on the Internet and followed instructions given, it was dead easy! Now there's no stopping me!

If you could post me a set of tail lights, I would happily do the work again for free and post then back to you, a give you a full step by step guide on how to do it. Then all you would need is someone with VCDS to finish it for you and I'll even provide a full step by step guide for it too!

ash_pearce
21-03-2011, 01:46 PM
Right then folks...

Just wanted to share my pain and to give anyone who's planning on doing a diy job a bit more advice.

I've had a wasted weekend to be honest, purely because the LED's i bought are too bright. I went down the route others have done and bought conventional LED's with resistors rather than the flat ones that are mounted to a circuit board.

Being cheap i bought the ones that need soldering up instead of the pre-wired as i figured i'd be cutting the wires anyway. But the ones i bought are very bright, according to the description on fleebay they are 20000 mcd.

I didnt realise this until I'd wasted most of Saturday carefully separating the light and wiring in all 20 LED's only to find i have the equivalent of a landing beacon on the back of the car. :banghead:

Each LED has its own 470ohm resistor and they are wired 4 in series but they are simply to bright.

I'm not sure what i'm going to do with them other than buy a new light and forget about the skyline look or try something else - any ideas?

So my word of advice to anyone thinking of going down this route is make sure the ones you buy are far less mcd rating, i think something around 1500 - 2000 is the norm.

Other than my error with the wrong LED's the rest of the procedure is fairly straight forward.

Sorry for the rant :o

g-black
21-03-2011, 01:54 PM
Easily fixed so don't dispare!

If you wire them up the way I did to your fog light, if you use VCDS to code it in, you can set the brightness of the fog light as a percentage. Standard tail lights are at 15% so I set mine the same. If your wiring yours into a 12v supply, they'll be at full brightness.

Your method should work just fine! Have faith!

ash_pearce
21-03-2011, 02:32 PM
Thanks for your reply g-black!

I chose the 'add in' method rather than your more professional route purely because i dont have vcds.

Although i think what you've just said about the tail lights set at 15% does make me think that if i use a higher value resistor i should be able to reduce the voltage going to the LED's. Hopefully making them dimmer than they are.

Failing that i'll have to find someone local to Leicester with vcds.

g-black
21-03-2011, 02:46 PM
Find someone with it. Will literally only take them 5 mins to do it and the results will be amazing. Might also save on a bit of wiring and you could use them as fog lighs and brake lights too.

guyke
21-03-2011, 04:21 PM
why dont jou put a potentiometer between the lights en de power source
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KEwqpx7mIo&feature=related
solves jour problem too

ash_pearce
21-03-2011, 04:38 PM
why dont jou put a potentiometer between the lights en de power source
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KEwqpx7mIo&feature=related
solves jour problem too

Thanks for the advice, any idea what resistance range I should go for? this is the shop i will go to for one http://www.maplin.co.uk/standard-potentiometers-2205

martin1810
21-03-2011, 04:49 PM
Just add a resistor or wire more than 4 in series. You didn't need LED's with resistors. You just needed 4 LED's in series without a resistor or with a small resitor to adjust the brightness.. There is a brief explanation on my site.

guyke
21-03-2011, 04:58 PM
1k is already good
doesnt matther jou kan put any between
they all work :approve:

ash_pearce
21-03-2011, 04:59 PM
Just add a resistor or wire more than 4 in series. You didn't need LED's with resistors. You just needed 4 LED's in series without a resistor or with a small resitor to adjust the brightness.. There is a brief explanation on my site.

Cheers Martin, i've looked there before - great info.

Using your info i originally wired them as you say 4 in series but they were mega bright. I then added one of the 470ohm resistors that came with the leds which was a little better but still too bright.

They are currently wired 4 in series with a 470ohm resistor between each led is that wrong?

ash_pearce
21-03-2011, 05:13 PM
just thought of something potentially really stupid. I have soldered the resistor onto the negative terminal of each LED should it be on the positive side?

guyke
21-03-2011, 05:47 PM
jep should be on the positive site

ash_pearce
21-03-2011, 05:51 PM
jep should be on the positive site

Thanks again for your help, looks like i need to re-solder all the LED's then. hopefully this will sort them out!
:beerchug:

Sti_Prodrive
21-03-2011, 06:34 PM
G-black.. you had to live in N. Ireland didnt ya?? If only you lived in London dude, things would of been soo easy for me :D Thanks for all the comment & reply on how to... But I have to get someone close by to me near London! Even about the error code stuff i dont even get it pal.. im confused!!

If your ever passing by London or even Manchester so let me know ;)

martin1810
21-03-2011, 06:40 PM
Cheers Martin, i've looked there before - great info.

Using your info i originally wired them as you say 4 in series but they were mega bright. I then added one of the 470ohm resistors that came with the leds which was a little better but still too bright.

They are currently wired 4 in series with a 470ohm resistor between each led is that wrong?

Yes, that's wrong. You only use a resistor with each LED when you wire them in parallel.
If you have 4 leds in series (one after the other) you don't need a resistor at all. Adding a resistor in series will make them dimmer. It doesn't matter what leg (+ or -) you attach the resistor to.
it's shown here: https://sites.google.com/site/1810martin/led-bulbs-and-lights

guyke
21-03-2011, 07:52 PM
Yes, that's wrong. You only use a resistor with each LED when you wire them in parallel.
If you have 4 leds in series (one after the other) you don't need a resistor at all. Adding a resistor in series will make them dimmer. It doesn't matter what leg (+ or -) you attach the resistor to.
it's shown here: https://sites.google.com/site/1810martin/led-bulbs-and-lights

if he dont put a resistor between de 4 leds in series the leds will not live long
always put a resistor between a led and the positive
otherways the leds will take to mutch peak current and will die fast

martin1810
21-03-2011, 08:45 PM
I never argue with people in posts. I suggest people research this for themselves. One of us must be right. :D

ash_pearce
21-03-2011, 11:21 PM
another little update...

first of all thanks for all the advice, managed to get them working in the end, de-soldered and re-soldered everything. but im affraid theyre not for me!

even though they are similar brightness now im not convinced they look oem enough. they are too pinky whereas the originals look more orangy.

its probably down to the fact i was being cheap and bought the cheapest ebay had to offer instead of the more expensive superflux/pirahna ones on offer - live and learn i suppose!

so sorry for those who may feel ive wasted their time but hopefully my experience has given others a little more info if they consider going down the diy route.:beerchug:

guyke
22-03-2011, 07:22 AM
next time send me a pm
i sel them ready those skyline lights
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc394/guyke1/Skyline%20mod/nieuwebiegmod0161600x1200.jpg

http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc394/guyke1/Skyline%20mod/nieuwebiegmod0291600x1200.jpg

http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc394/guyke1/Skyline%20mod/nieuwebiegmod0301600x1200.jpg

http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc394/guyke1/Skyline%20mod/nieuwebiegmod0321600x1200.jpg

http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc394/guyke1/Skyline%20mod/nieuwebiegmod0251600x1200.jpg

guyke
22-03-2011, 07:26 AM
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc394/guyke1/Skyline%20mod/nieuwebiegmod0361600x1200.jpg

http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc394/guyke1/Skyline%20mod/nieuwebiegmod0371600x1200.jpg

http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc394/guyke1/Skyline%20mod/nieuwebiegmod0231600x1200.jpg

http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc394/guyke1/Skyline%20mod/nieuwebiegmod0221600x1200.jpg

http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc394/guyke1/passat%20vanalles/poetsenpassatmaastreeeeech0721280x768.jpg

podwin
22-03-2011, 10:51 AM
Sorry to hear it hasn't worked out ash_pearce.

I can send you a link to the Ebay seller I purchased my LEDs from if you still want to get it sorted.

They are 12v pre-wired LEDs, I experimented with the brightness, and tried 3,4 and 5 wired in series to match the brightness by eye.

The ones I had seemed a good match to the tail light brightness of 4 in series, they have been working without a single failure since August 2009 (touch wood).

Can't fault guyke's work though, really top job!

ash_pearce
22-03-2011, 11:55 AM
Sorry to hear it hasn't worked out ash_pearce.

I can send you a link to the Ebay seller I purchased my LEDs from if you still want to get it sorted.

They are 12v pre-wired LEDs, I experimented with the brightness, and tried 3,4 and 5 wired in series to match the brightness by eye.

The ones I had seemed a good match to the tail light brightness of 4 in series, they have been working without a single failure since August 2009 (touch wood).

Can't fault guyke's work though, really top job!


Cheers bud, not sure what to do now if I'm honest. One part of me wants to buy a new light and forget about it all and the other want to sort it as i feel i come this far may as well fix it.

I've found a company that does smd led's which are practically OEM. They work out to be 9p each and should be the same as the outer lights. I'm just working out the cost of making a circuit board similar to Guyke's, if it turns out to be more expensive than a new light i wont bother.

ToMBoY_C
22-03-2011, 12:01 PM
What have I started!? :P

ash_pearce
22-03-2011, 12:05 PM
What have I started!? :P

thats right what have you started! i'm holding you responsible for my lights!:p

ToMBoY_C
22-03-2011, 12:15 PM
I must have really just dropped on with mine, didn't even knew they existed, just saw them on Ebay! Bargain too :D

ash_pearce
22-03-2011, 12:26 PM
I must have really just dropped on with mine, didn't even knew they existed, just saw them on Ebay! Bargain too :D

haha rub it in why dont you! :biglaugh:

manity
25-03-2011, 07:31 PM
right thanks to Gblack and tomboy i am now a member of the skyline club.

very happy with the results below are a couple of pics. :D :D :D

http://i55.tinypic.com/2la4z1g.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/116rj3d.jpg

twin reverse lights

http://i53.tinypic.com/v3jgar.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/160v2q0.jpg

and twin fog lights

http://i56.tinypic.com/1zyakah.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/23jpeon.jpg

ToMBoY_C
25-03-2011, 11:37 PM
Welcome! Seem very bright :)

ssopho
26-03-2011, 03:23 PM
Guys im a little confused? do i need one passenger light of a lhd car with fog like ours in o/s?

or do i need 1 o/s light in other words plain without fog light red bit in the middle?
or di i need 1 n/s light in other words with the red fog light bit in the middle?

or can i us either?
Sorry for the stupid question .

manity
26-03-2011, 04:20 PM
use two with the clear lens. doesnt have to be left hand drive just get a normal reverse open it up and change the inner clear piece with your standard fog light to give you clear both sides
http://i52.tinypic.com/b8n3vt.jpg
http://i51.tinypic.com/b4wbj5.jpg

brightside
26-03-2011, 06:22 PM
so if i purchased a set of pre wired LED rings from Guyke, would I be able to run them off the numeberplate lights? I dont have VCDS and dont know anyone local with it.

Always fancied this on my estate. Getting very tempted as I think it does look the mutts.... if theyre not too bright.

g-black
26-03-2011, 07:05 PM
I have a spare clear inner piece if your interested?! Came out of the light I used to pratice on but the centre piece is still in perfect condition as luckily I managed to get drilling the holes right first time!

You can do it without, but, you'll need VCDS anyway to cancel brake light as tail light, to make the original cluster a ring rather than a solid circle of light.

ToMBoY_C
26-03-2011, 07:06 PM
so if i purchased a set of pre wired LED rings from Guyke, would I be able to run them off the numeberplate lights? I dont have VCDS and dont know anyone local with it.

Always fancied this on my estate. Getting very tempted as I think it does look the mutts.... if theyre not too bright.

Yer you can wire them like that, or even off the n/s cluster, much easier, however without vcds you will only have inner rings, your outer clusters will stay the same as they are!!

g-black
26-03-2011, 09:03 PM
Make sure when you glue them back up you do a good job of it. Just noticed after washing mine the right tail has moisture in it! :(

brightside
27-03-2011, 11:08 PM
Damn it.

ToMBoY_C
28-03-2011, 12:37 AM
Damn it.


?

manity
28-03-2011, 09:05 AM
wish id know about the spare clear plastic piece you had Gblack. id got mine from ebay when it arrived it was for an estate so broke it open to see if the the bit inside would fit my fog light ( no chance).. lol. so there i was both rear middle lights in bits in my garage in bits. so rang around nobody except main dealer had them in stock (£57.30). so i bought that brand new then smashed it up to get the middle bit. lol :o

martin1810
28-03-2011, 11:39 AM
Make sure when you glue them back up you do a good job of it. Just noticed after washing mine the right tail has moisture in it! :(

Glue the lens back on with clear silicon sealant. Preferably the fish tank stuff. Then it won't leak. :biglaugh:

brightside
29-03-2011, 09:03 PM
I dont know anyone with VCDS, well at least not a legitimate copy that works with CANBUS :(

manity
29-03-2011, 10:47 PM
i have vcds brightside not sure where you are im down south in salisbury

Sti_Prodrive
29-03-2011, 11:17 PM
All these lovely replys & its killing me! I wish I knew how to do it myself :(

guyke
30-03-2011, 10:10 AM
why dont jou guys dont organise a skyline modification day
in belgieum im already at my 5 th day to do that

jou look for a central location , a garage or someone ho has the place ant the know how
order the parts jou need , and go go go
help eatch other out
normal if anybody helps out jou can do 6 cars in a day

http://vwpassat.nl/gallery/album.php?album_id=1230

brightside
30-03-2011, 08:58 PM
Im in the northwest mate. Thanks for the offer :)

I'd be happy just having the "outer" tail/stop lights in a ring. Is that possible using vagcom?
So when the sidelights are on, just the rings are lit, and when you brake, the whole light come on? If that makes sense...

manity
30-03-2011, 09:09 PM
yes that can be done using vcds

g-black
30-03-2011, 11:12 PM
http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt349/gblackb6/580eb1f8.jpg

Brake lights are just as normal!

This is an easy mod for anyone to do. The hardest part for most it seems is the computer work. If anyone is unsure about it but wants to give it a go, I will happily guide them step by step on the day there doing it over the phone. It's really not that challenging. I was nervous myself about it, but results are worth it!

brightside
31-03-2011, 07:07 PM
does look cool. Dont know why they arnt like that as standard :/

ash_pearce
07-04-2011, 12:24 PM
Almost completed mine... sneak peek at my home-made circuits
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h240/ash_pearce/Passat%20B6%20BKP/Skylinelights006.jpg:biglaugh:

g-black
07-04-2011, 01:04 PM
Lookin good! Hopefully I'll be doing the footwell lights this weekend. It's quite sad, but I'm excited and looking forward to install!

ash_pearce
07-04-2011, 01:11 PM
Lookin good! Hopefully I'll be doing the footwell lights this weekend. It's quite sad, but I'm excited and looking forward to install!

Tell me about it! i cant wait to finish work to start installing them haha!

I've got 10 led's left over and was thinking about a home brew footwell light set up with my new found circuit board making skills. Was thinking of just powering them off a 12v ign source - so they would be on when the engine is running or just find a feed off the interior riostat so they could be dimmed as with the other interior lights?:biglaugh:

g-black
07-04-2011, 01:36 PM
I'm going full oem and powering them from the control module. They should come on when driving and adjust the brightness through the MFD. But I'll do a full "how to" for that when finished!

ash_pearce
08-04-2011, 10:54 AM
Yeah baby! finished them at last!

I wired them straight into the existing tail light wiring on the left hand cluster, pin 4 + and pin 1 - It gives tail and brake lights with no errors or vcds required.

sorry for the poor pic

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h240/ash_pearce/Passat%20B6%20BKP/Passatskylinelights.jpg

Cost be just shy of £20 (plus many wasted hours with the first attempt) but i'm happy with the outcome.

g-black
08-04-2011, 12:51 PM
Top effort ash!

Going by that picture they look really OEM colour and brightness wise. Well done and congrats!

ToMBoY_C
08-04-2011, 03:56 PM
Hey join the club Ash!

G... with regards to the footwell lights, I wired mine into the cigarette lighter light, this way they come on when the headlights are on, and are dimmable via the dim switch. :D

Do look very cool when in ;)

ash_pearce
08-04-2011, 03:59 PM
Top effort ash!

Going by that picture they look really OEM colour and brightness wise. Well done and congrats!

cheers mate, i'm chuffed with the result - just a shame i cant see them when im driving haha


Hey join the club Ash!


Cheers Tom, I will still need your vcds skills in the near future though with auto hold etc i'll pm you when i sort it ta!:beerchug:

ToMBoY_C
08-04-2011, 04:00 PM
Anytime mukka!! :)

ssopho
15-04-2011, 06:11 PM
Check these out. very expensive.


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Modifed-inner-lights-Passat-B6-3C5945093-3C5945094-/120711514479?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1c1af7896f

manity
15-04-2011, 06:25 PM
not too bad but dont have 2 reverse lights.

guyke
15-04-2011, 07:35 PM
he tels that the lights are modified whit original osram leds , but if jou look closer there is a huge color difference
i think he uses ordinary leds

Zeb
18-04-2011, 10:37 AM
I found a set of Skyline lights for Passat B6 models on ebay, for £150! I am going to order a set early next month :) If you trade in your old inner lights than he will charge you £100 and will refund £50

Heres the link:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120711514479&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_500wt_1156

guyke
18-04-2011, 01:13 PM
i charge 100 euro if jou trade jour inner lichts
and i use the original volkswagen leds
the only thing that is expensiver is the shipping costs
greetz fromm belgium
guyke

g-black
29-04-2011, 07:24 PM
Another option to get yor tail lights done.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Inner-Tail-Lights-LED-Rings-WV-Passat-B6-3C2-/200602613128?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2eb4d8f588#ht_500wt_922

This has very quickly become a popular mod! Not so unique anymore. :( But still haven't seen anyone else with them on the road!

Zeb
29-04-2011, 07:49 PM
Another option to get yor tail lights done.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Inner-Tail-Lights-LED-Rings-WV-Passat-B6-3C2-/200602613128?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2eb4d8f588#ht_500wt_922

This has very quickly become a popular mod! Not so unique anymore. :( But still haven't seen anyone else with them on the road!

This is next on my list :)

ToMBoY_C
29-04-2011, 09:35 PM
Everyones on the band wagon!!

guyke
24-05-2011, 09:10 AM
im proud to present my new skyline rings
they now support also the turn signal , this was a hell of a job because i need to find the osram bicolor leds , they are hard to get
now jou can have 2 rear fogg lights , an extra set of brake lights ; 2rear reverse lights , 4 driving lights , and 4 turning lights , this is the maximum jou can geth out off jour lights
and i manifacture the rings also forr the volkswagen jetta , maybe the golf 5 whil folow

guyke
24-05-2011, 09:29 AM
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc394/guyke1/new%20skyline%20mod/nieuweskylineringenookvoorjetta0011600x1200.jpg
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc394/guyke1/new%20skyline%20mod/nieuweskylineringenookvoorjetta0021600x1200.jpg
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc394/guyke1/new%20skyline%20mod/nieuweskylineringenookvoorjetta0041600x1200.jpg
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc394/guyke1/new%20skyline%20mod/nieuweskylineringenookvoorjetta0091600x1200.jpg

here jou see the ring shining in red and orange
on the other picture jou see the old rings and the new ring , watch good the new ring has an extra cable to fit to the blinkers

manity
24-05-2011, 06:59 PM
might have been tempted to upgrade my normal skyline lights but my lights are so well glued together now id destroy the lights trying to swap leds.

mercedeslimos
08-06-2011, 11:09 PM
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc394/guyke1/new%20skyline%20mod/nieuweskylineringenookvoorjetta0011600x1200.jpg
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc394/guyke1/new%20skyline%20mod/nieuweskylineringenookvoorjetta0021600x1200.jpg
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc394/guyke1/new%20skyline%20mod/nieuweskylineringenookvoorjetta0041600x1200.jpg
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc394/guyke1/new%20skyline%20mod/nieuweskylineringenookvoorjetta0091600x1200.jpg

here jou see the ring shining in red and orange
on the other picture jou see the old rings and the new ring , watch good the new ring has an extra cable to fit to the blinkers



I want!!! Will you make me a set?

sam

podwin
09-06-2011, 08:35 AM
im proud to present my new skyline rings
they now support also the turn signal , this was a hell of a job because i need to find the osram bicolor leds , they are hard to get
now jou can have 2 rear fogg lights , an extra set of brake lights ; 2rear reverse lights , 4 driving lights , and 4 turning lights , this is the maximum jou can geth out off jour lights
and i manifacture the rings also forr the volkswagen jetta , maybe the golf 5 whil folow

Hi Guyke, sounds and looks good! But how do you achieve 2 rear fogs at the same time as 2 rear reverse lights?

manity
09-06-2011, 10:17 AM
when you take the lights apart you will need an extra clear lens to replace the fog light lens, then you wire the old fog light center bulb to the existing reverse bulb. that gives you the two reverse lights. then you code vcds to use the new led rings to be used as BRAKE, DRIVING LIGHT and FOG LIGHTS. giving you two of each.

g-black
09-06-2011, 12:35 PM
I've an extra clear centre if anyones interested....

Sti_Prodrive
09-06-2011, 05:56 PM
I think we defo need to do a day for these Skyline lights.. Where & When is the main Q guys.. Also whos going to do it & How much will it cost & how long will it take?

Whos in?

IM IN FOR SURE :D

gireada2005
12-06-2011, 09:39 PM
X2,but at least if we do it we should use these latest ones that guyke is making so we have the complete kit.also someone with vcds to help us activate all the settings.anyone else interested?

rob1990
12-06-2011, 10:21 PM
I think we defo need to do a day for these Skyline lights.. Where & When is the main Q guys.. Also whos going to do it & How much will it cost & how long will it take?

Whos in?

IM IN FOR SURE :D

I'd be up for this too

gireada2005
13-06-2011, 06:33 AM
Maybe he will do for us a groupbuy discount :) so we will make up for the delivery costs.anyone else

Zeb
13-06-2011, 09:44 AM
Maybe he will do for us a groupbuy discount :) so we will make up for the delivery costs.anyone else


I'm up for it :)

ToMBoY_C
13-06-2011, 10:05 AM
I'd help with coding? ;)

Discounts for group coding :D lol

sunbeamsupreme
13-06-2011, 04:27 PM
Well count me in I definately want to do this mod asap.

gireada2005
14-06-2011, 12:33 AM
So we got 6 of us untill now or i'm wrong? Now guyke has to step forward with the lights and us with the location and date, but first of all let there be light:) so what you are saying guyke?are you into or not

gireada2005
14-06-2011, 12:37 AM
And lets not forget tomboy who is going to make 6 people happy in a day,offcourse not for nothing :)

mercedeslimos
14-06-2011, 12:37 AM
i'm in ireland so can't be over for fitting etc but i want a set of guyke's lights..

g-black
14-06-2011, 12:56 PM
Where in Ireland? I'm not far from Belfast...

mercedeslimos
14-06-2011, 01:11 PM
Cork...:) But I will be coming to Lisburn/Belfast for a holiday sometime this summer with my folks. If guyke comes up with the goods maybe you could help out?

g-black
14-06-2011, 05:57 PM
Can get guyke to send me another set off rings. You could leave your tail lights with me for a day and I'll have them finished. Would just be a matter off coding them in!

mercedeslimos
14-06-2011, 08:57 PM
not too sure how that would go down with my family driving around the north without back lights! fitting isn't a problem, coding is though.

gireada2005
15-06-2011, 09:04 PM
So g-black have you got any contact details of guyke cause he hasn't been in touch with us,and he has some good customers here waiting :D

mercedeslimos
15-06-2011, 09:24 PM
ya i'll take a set off him too, fit them myself feel up to it since i did my rover headlamps!

manity
15-06-2011, 11:00 PM
anyone need to contact guyke follow this link and pm him.
http://www.ukpassats.co.uk/phpbb/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=8892

Colestation
16-06-2011, 01:19 PM
I am thinking of buying pre-assembled, modified inner lights for B6 Estate. Seller (in Romania!) uses genuine Osram LED's and states units are plug & play (no coding changes). Can understand how inner rings work as rear fogs (2) and centres as reverse lights (2) but not clear how inner rings work in dim mode as additional tail lights without additional wiring. Has anyone used this kit, see www.JLStuning.com ?

g-black
16-06-2011, 02:54 PM
Remember someone else on the forum had a bad experience with the above. They bought the front DRLs and they didn't work the best.

Can't understand how you would get the lights to be at 15% for driving and 100% for fog/brake light without coding.

manity
16-06-2011, 03:44 PM
colestation dont take much notice of what they are saying about no coding needed. the inner lights need to be coded so that fog lights can be used as tail lights for the skyline effect.

guyke
17-06-2011, 08:27 AM
inner lights need always te be coded when jou build the skyline mod
if jou all are interested in buying my pre modified led rings i will be happy to sell them to jou all
and a group buy is always welkom so i can do something about the price

i think that the rings i manufacture have proof there durability already , antil now only 1 problem whit 1 ring , and i replace it directly and whitout any costs , the guy drilled the hols to small and try to fitt the ring anyway butt damage a led in the proces ,
drilling needs to be done whit 5.5 or 6 mm dril
and i go to the meeting gti international , i will take 5 sets to there so iff someone comes to there jou could buy them on the meeting
and then i can directly give instructions on how mounting the lights , and what needs to be coded in vagcom

grz
guy

guyke
17-06-2011, 08:35 AM
jou can always contact me on the follow email adress
passat06@telenet.be
guy hendrickx
cheers

ash_pearce
17-06-2011, 12:03 PM
Hi all!

As some of you may remember I installed my diy'd rings and simply wired them into the existing connector on the left hand outer cluster pins 1 and 4 as at the time i didnt have VCDS to do the coding. A friend has lent me his vcds (hopefully permanently - he's selling his golf) and i've read back through the guide and this forum and I've confused myself as to what coding i need!

I would like the lights to be tail lights and brake lights (not too fussed about fogs) and remove the inner light in the outer cluster - giving me two rings.

How should i wire them up and what coding should i use?

If i wire them into the existing fog light wiring and enable fog as brake and fog as parking lamp - i'll lose the standard fog - not bothered but will i have a bulb out warning as i haven't fitted one of those resistors jobbies?

Sorry i know this has been covered but i have read through the guide that many times its just black blobs on the page now.

guyke
17-06-2011, 12:22 PM
hi , no problem i will always help everybody out
if jou wire the rings to the existing fog light an jou recode the fogg light as brake and driving lights jou will have a fault error, because the carr is looking forr that second fogg light and jou did not installes one so it will give jou a warning that jour second fogg light is broke
or jou put a resistor between the exit of the second fogg light or jou pull a cable fromm the front ( exit second fogg light ) to the rear off the car and connect it to the other ring so the car think jou have a second fogg light

ash_pearce
17-06-2011, 12:40 PM
hi , no problem i will always help everybody out
if jou wire the rings to the existing fog light an jou recode the fogg light as brake and driving lights jou will have a fault error, because the carr is looking forr that second fogg light and jou did not installes one so it will give jou a warning that jour second fogg light is broke
or jou put a resistor between the exit of the second fogg light or jou pull a cable fromm the front ( exit second fogg light ) to the rear off the car and connect it to the other ring so the car think jou have a second fogg light

Thanks for your reply.

If i enable fog as brake and driving light could i not just disable cold diagnostics for fogs? would that cancel the warning light?

They work fine at the moment wired in to pin 1 and 4, i just wanted to remove the inner light on the outer cluster to give me two rings.

guyke
17-06-2011, 12:42 PM
this will not work could diagnostics canceling doesnd help :-( :-(
jou will need to install that resistor or to pull that extra cable

ash_pearce
17-06-2011, 12:47 PM
this will not work could diagnostics canceling doesnd help :-( :-(
jou will need to install that resistor or to pull that extra cable

Ok than you for your help. I'll have a look at the weekend and decide on my options.

gireada2005
17-06-2011, 05:22 PM
So guys who's in for the 5 sets guyke is going to provide?,a group buy will leave us some beer money :D

g-black
17-06-2011, 09:12 PM
If you don't use the new rings as brake lights (fog light as brake light) you won't get an error if you turn off cold diagnostics. Brake lights are seen as a safety feature so you can't disable the diagnostics for them. If you do want to use them as brake lights, either wire in a resistor like I did, or run the wire right into the boot lid and wire it I to the second ring.

The easiest way to get a second reverse light, is get a second left hand cluster (reverse light). Open it and remove the clear inner lense and use it on the right side instead of the red lense. Then wire it upto the origional reverse light.

mercedeslimos
18-06-2011, 02:04 AM
I have them bought today, be here next week! will fit them and then will want the definite wiring and coding instructions for best results and as OEM a feel as possible! lots of confusing theories here for me to take in!

gireada2005
18-06-2011, 01:57 PM
you've bought a set from guyke or a different supplier ?, I can only get on the gti show on Sunday the 26, Saturday v. busy and important day.In order to have them fit what kind of tools do we need, I've got the set from halfords 150 pieces ,would that be enough or we need other special tools?

guyke
18-06-2011, 04:27 PM
no special tools needed
only good glu to closed the lights , i use bison hard plastic glu
a drilling machine whit a 6 mm drill inside , cable red and black , a welding torch and welding material
this is to prepare the light

to open the carr for accesing the lights jou need only a special tool , its like a star ( dont know exacly the name in english )

mercedeslimos
19-06-2011, 04:44 PM
you've bought a set from guyke or a different supplier ?, I can only get on the gti show on Sunday the 26, Saturday v. busy and important day.In order to have them fit what kind of tools do we need, I've got the set from halfords 150 pieces ,would that be enough or we need other special tools?

ya from guyke. I'm in ireland so fitting in the UK not an option for me.

mercedeslimos
19-06-2011, 04:46 PM
no special tools needed
only good glu to closed the lights , i use bison hard plastic glu
a drilling machine whit a 6 mm drill inside , cable red and black , a welding torch and welding material
this is to prepare the light

to open the carr for accesing the lights jou need only a special tool , its like a star ( dont know exacly the name in english )

don't you mean a soldering iron and solder? welding wires:) think its called triple-star too for the bit for removing them. will a torx not work?

guyke
19-06-2011, 06:42 PM
jes i mean soldering iron and solder , and the tool is a torckx key
not easy to translate
i will make a short movy how to mount and everyting jou need to mount the skyline mod , and i will put this movie on youtube in english so everybody knows how to install everything
i think next week it would be ready
i keep u al poste

mercedeslimos
19-06-2011, 07:45 PM
jes i mean soldering iron and solder , and the tool is a torckx key
not easy to translate
i will make a short movy how to mount and everyting jou need to mount the skyline mod , and i will put this movie on youtube in english so everybody knows how to install everything
i think next week it would be ready
i keep u al poste

brilliant thanks ya torxs are readily available here.

mercedeslimos
26-06-2011, 05:31 PM
got my lights from guyke Friday. think he sent me the wrong ones only red not bi-colour but I don't mind. already got a clear centre from a reversing light to make 2 clear rears.
drilled that, will split the proper two hopefully in the next few days weather permitting. would like photos of the setup from guyke where to hook them up to so they work exactly as the outers (i don't have a Haynes so can't find wiring diagrams)

gireada2005
27-06-2011, 12:12 PM
I meet guyke on sunday at the gti meeting,nice guy same for me just the normal ones without the bicolor led.i spoke with him to bring the whole light modify so only 5 min to swap.now i have to make my connection.i think i would need a bit ofhelp where to connect the rezistor in the front box and how to take the trims out under the steering wheel. But i've got a big dillema now but i'll start a new thread on this one.

g-black
27-06-2011, 12:29 PM
The pin location for the resistor is on page 1 of this thread. Only trim you really need to remove is the piece above your feet. 3 bolts along the edge and then it just pulls out. Disconnect the diagnostics plug and it comes away. Then you need to get flexible! Lying on our back legs out the door and look up to the board. There is a red pin down the middle of all the connections. Slide it along to release them then pull out the correct connection and find the pin your after.

The panel round the bonnet realise is a little harder. The handle itself is clipped on. Push a flat head screw driver down the back of the handle and pull the clip out from behind it. Then the handle comes off. Think there might be another bolt beside the panel on the floor but not 100%.

gireada2005
27-06-2011, 08:42 PM
g black in the first picture i see a yellow cable,the resistor which I have from guyke has got two wires ,where i have to connect them and how do you connect weld? or just screw insert and screw back.And do you think if I do all the connections with the light in the back and in the front box and leave the vcds coding(because I14173 don't have one yet) will be any problem?

gireada2005
27-06-2011, 08:45 PM
also how did you take the door sill out and side panel to hide the rezistor

g-black
27-06-2011, 09:54 PM
Door sill just pulls up and lift from the froof the car. Wedge a lever in under it from outside off car amd pull it up.

http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt349/gblackb6/408f4006.jpg

This is where my resistor went. One end goes to an earthing point, there's one right behind the bonnet release, and the other goes into the empty pin location. I added extra lengths of wire to each end of the resistor so I had plenty to choose from. You can connect it into the control module with a VW repair wire (about £1) and that will give a perfect connection. The repair wire part number is on page 1.

Note: The resistor is only needed if you plan to use the rings as brake lights.

gireada2005
27-06-2011, 10:05 PM
Do you think if i do all the connections in the front box and the boot and leave the vcds coding for the weekend will be any problems?

g-black
27-06-2011, 10:19 PM
You'll not have any problems. Your fog lights will be the new rings and the empty pin your connecting won't be active so it won't have any effect.

All the best with the install!

mercedeslimos
29-06-2011, 12:15 AM
Got mine installed today, couldn't wait to do it the VCDS way so wired it with diodes so have tails, brakes and fogs.

will remove the outer light centre red section with VCDS next week.

very happy, guyke's lights fit very well

gireada2005
01-07-2011, 09:58 PM
G-black sorry to be a headache but i don't want to do anything stupid tmrw.I wired the cables in the back boot ,now the innerlights are working but only when i activate my fog lights,Next step is the front box.In the first picture i see a yellow wire, is that a wire i have to add on? or is it allready there?Also the resistor plus i will connect it any empty space from module b?thanks for help

g-black
01-07-2011, 10:23 PM
G-black sorry to be a headache but i don't want to do anything stupid tmrw.I wired the cables in the back boot ,now the innerlights are working but only when i activate my fog lights,Next step is the front box.In the first picture i see a yellow wire, is that a wire i have to add on? or is it allready there?Also the resistor plus i will connect it any empty space from module b?thanks for help

I used an extra piece of wire on the resistor for length. The length of wire either side of the resistor I bought wasn't long enough. One side of the resistor goes to pin 4 connection B. The other side should be grounded. To make a perfect connection on the pin you'll need a VW repair wire. Think the part number is in this tread but the dealer will be able to give it to you as well. If you have any bother tomorrow give me a shout.

mercedeslimos
06-07-2011, 11:53 PM
problem with mine. got my outer circle inner portions turned off grand.

inner circles work with brake lights fine but go off when on parks after about 45 seconds :(

Sti_Prodrive
07-07-2011, 12:21 AM
STILL WAITING FOR SOMEONE IN THE "LONDON LEICSTER or MANCHESTER" AREA WILLING TO DO THIS FOR ME!?!?!?!? I'M WILLING TO COME TO YOU FROM LONDON !! BUT MST BE ABLE TO BE DONE WITH IN THE DAY DURING DAYLIGHT ! THANKS :biglaugh:

mercedeslimos
07-07-2011, 02:46 AM
ok disconnected all the diode stuff.

got it coded with vcds, forgot to code fog light as brake light.

do i need a load resistor now between plug b pin 4 and the body, set fog as brake and away we go.

i have loads of bulb warnings come up, can i get rid of them all, sick of seeing the light in my dash.

guyke
07-07-2011, 06:55 AM
jes jou need to install the resistor
or jou will always have these fault warnings on jour dash
so at the moment jou have done what i told jou ,
now only the resistor and the coding and jou will be ready

guyke
07-07-2011, 07:07 AM
or jou pull an extra wire fromm pinn 4 connector b to that second fogg light , this is an other option and than jou dont need that resitor
but it is a lot more work
thats how i done it

mercedeslimos
07-07-2011, 07:33 PM
jes jou need to install the resistor
or jou will always have these fault warnings on jour dash
so at the moment jou have done what i told jou ,
now only the resistor and the coding and jou will be ready

all good just on parks. will install resistor and code it and away we go

gireada2005
11-07-2011, 08:12 AM
Install my resistor yesterday all good to go for vcds.anyone in london to help me with the coding it's some beer involved to at the end :). Sti Podrive you should have bought the lights from guyke allready made and i could've help you to fit and conect them.thr resistor bit is a bit tricky but after you do it it's piece of cake.thanks G for all the help and will post photos as soon as get them done.So anyone with Vcds to help a fellow member?

Sti_Prodrive
11-07-2011, 11:17 PM
Install my resistor yesterday all good to go for vcds.anyone in london to help me with the coding it's some beer involved to at the end :). Sti Podrive you should have bought the lights from guyke allready made and i could've help you to fit and conect them.thr resistor bit is a bit tricky but after you do it it's piece of cake.thanks G for all the help and will post photos as soon as get them done.So anyone with Vcds to help a fellow member?

Dude.. I'm totaly lost all thur out it ! I would like someone to do it for me & drop them a drink for me ! I wish i knew mate really.. I have to admit in the night they look bloody nice when your driving off or on the M1 A406 ;) Let me know if you get yours sorted out Gireada2005 maybe you could have a pop at mine :)

gireada2005
13-07-2011, 05:26 PM
Ok , any good deals on vag com ?,i can't be charged 36 pounds for 5-10 min work with it,so anybody can advise me what to look for and a good offer to buy one? plz

ToMBoY_C
13-07-2011, 09:15 PM
I'll be around Guildford towards the end of July if anyone needs me and my trusty VCDS :)

Sti_Prodrive
15-07-2011, 03:52 PM
TomBoy_C would you like to sort my rear lights out for me from start to finish ?

gireada2005
15-07-2011, 09:15 PM
it would be a pleasure to see meet and see what other mods you've done to your car Tomboy_C ,and also sort me out with the settings for the skyline lights if it's not to much of a hassle.

guyke
15-12-2011, 09:57 AM
ok if jou adapt jour car whit skyline mod and that workt well , and jou have any energy left to do an extra modification , if have a new one
now jou can open jour exterior lights and mount some side markers lights in them
here are the pictures
first jou get the lights out of the car
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc394/guyke1/buitenstelampenamericanmod0241600x1200800x600.jpg
than jou brake open the lights like jou done whit jour inner lights
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc394/guyke1/buitenstelampenamericanmod0191600x1200800x600.jpg
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc394/guyke1/buitenstelampenamericanmod0181600x1200800x600.jpg
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc394/guyke1/outher%20lights%20passat%203c%20modification/buitenstelampenamericanmod0171600x1200.jpg
get the inner reflector out of the light by unscrewing 2 screws in the back of the light
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc394/guyke1/outher%20lights%20passat%203c%20modification/buitenstelampenamericanmod001.jpg
drill 5 holes where jou will mount the leds
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc394/guyke1/outher%20lights%20passat%203c%20modification/buitenstelampenamericanmod0021600x1200800x600.jpg
buy 5 leds ( color red) 5 mm
solder them together +-+-+-+-+- and add a resitor 470 ohm to them ,
jou see the result at the table i prepared already some
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc394/guyke1/outher%20lights%20passat%203c%20modification/buitenstelampenamericanmod003.jpg
glu or tape them in place in the reflector
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc394/guyke1/outher%20lights%20passat%203c%20modification/buitenstelampenamericanmod0031600x1200800x600.jpg
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc394/guyke1/outher%20lights%20passat%203c%20modification/buitenstelampenamericanmod0051600x1200800x600.jpg
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc394/guyke1/outher%20lights%20passat%203c%20modification/buitenstelampenamericanmod0091600x1200800x600.jpg
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc394/guyke1/outher%20lights%20passat%203c%20modification/buitenstelampenamericanmod004.jpg
connect the positive and the negative to the cables off the light
negative is brown and positive is black ( i know normaly its black ho shoud be negative , but explain this to the volkswagen engeneers )
and put the reflector back in place in the light , scew it back together, and make the first test
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc394/guyke1/outher%20lights%20passat%203c%20modification/buitenstelampenamericanmod0131600x1200.jpg
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc394/guyke1/outher%20lights%20passat%203c%20modification/buitenstelampenamericanmod0141600x1200.jpg
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc394/guyke1/outher%20lights%20passat%203c%20modification/buitenstelampenamericanmod0071600x1200800x600.jpg
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc394/guyke1/outher%20lights%20passat%203c%20modification/buitenstelampenamericanmod0061600x1200800x600.jpg
put some glu on the edges of the light, and put back the outher plastic housing
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc394/guyke1/outher%20lights%20passat%203c%20modification/buitenstelampenamericanmod0191600x1200.jpg
push it back in place and hold it for a 30 seconds
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc394/guyke1/outher%20lights%20passat%203c%20modification/buitenstelampenamericanmod0201600x1200.jpg
than close the hole entire light edges whit that same glu , to prvent water to get in
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc394/guyke1/outher%20lights%20passat%203c%20modification/buitenstelampenamericanmod0231600x1200.jpg

i use bison hard plastic glu
thats the best
put back the light in the car after the glu is dry , normaly 3 hours after is ok
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc394/guyke1/outher%20lights%20passat%203c%20modification/buitenstelampenamericanmod0261600x1200.jpg
this is the result in the dark
http://www.vwpassat.nl/download/file.php?id=33797&t=1

podwin
15-12-2011, 12:15 PM
Very nice, subtle, I really like that.

LabeL
19-05-2012, 02:39 PM
Hi there guys, can anyone tell me the dimensions of the inner rings (inner dimension, outer dimension and the dimension for the led ring), have bought all the leds, resistors and anything else needed, but just dont feel like driveing around without inner lights :D

So hopeing to make the rings all ready to go, before opening up the taillights.

Lauri

mercedeslimos
02-06-2012, 01:39 AM
Today my skyline lights stopped working and the bulb out warning is up... "rear right fog light not working"...

Is this the load resistor?

g-black
07-06-2012, 05:27 PM
Rear left would be the load resistor. Check the wiring for the rings as its seems they have failed.

mercedeslimos
07-06-2012, 11:53 PM
Rear left would be the load resistor. Check the wiring for the rings as its seems they have failed.


Ah that's a bit of a pain!

might as well get on and split the lights again methinks.

Maybe the rings themselves at fault.

I think I remember you saying something about the soldering coming off the rings Gavin?

Sam

g-black
08-06-2012, 10:51 AM
The fact that both have failed at the same time would suggest that it's some of the factory wiring thats at fault. The soldering came loose on one of my old ones, but it was easily fixed.

Check your connections on where you've wired them in.

guyke
19-06-2012, 06:36 AM
a new little update forr the passat b6 and also the latest 3bg ( previous modell 2001-2005)
new led blinkers in the side mirrors ( complete units , just plug and play )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE4S3KrK6hE original

and my new ones modified
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=lXgKgFEAOlk

complete vieuw on the car http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_DwSvZw0KE&feature=plcp

pet3er
18-12-2012, 09:10 PM
guyke, do u still make these bi-color rings?
i'd love to have it :)

jaraz
12-07-2013, 02:04 PM
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jaraz
20-07-2013, 02:25 PM
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why my recent post was removed :confused:

jaraz

Guest 2
20-07-2013, 02:32 PM
It seems my colleague has removed your post due to posting items for sale in the open forum, he has given a reason in his edit note.


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kingf
07-08-2014, 09:56 PM
Hi.

I bought my rings in Germany:

http://www.nbgtec.de/themes/kategorie/detail.php?artikelid=60&kategorieid=8&source=2&refertype=1&referid=8

Looks great!

Cave_Dweller
17-08-2014, 05:21 AM
I was looking into doing this at some point. The way I saw to do it you didn't need to buy separate rings, but it looked a lot more fussy with having to modify all the wiring on the rear lights then clear codes on VAG Com after. With this way do you have to clear codes after or is it mainly just plug and play with some DIY wiring? Certainly looks easier than the other way I saw to do it.

jaraz
18-08-2014, 09:52 AM
I was looking into doing this at some point. The way I saw to do it you didn't need to buy separate rings, but it looked a lot more fussy with having to modify all the wiring on the rear lights then clear codes on VAG Com after. With this way do you have to clear codes after or is it mainly just plug and play with some DIY wiring? Certainly looks easier than the other way I saw to do it.

The install its just connecting the inners to outer tail lights - parking lights and indicators. No coding required for standard set up. So I can say its a plug and play.
For double reverse / double fog you require to do some coding etc. ;)


jaraz

Cave_Dweller
20-08-2014, 03:51 PM
Thanks. Currently selling my passat now though but at least I know lol

MUNK19
07-04-2015, 09:05 AM
Hi everyone
I would like to remove the settings for the skyline lights on my vw passat 2007, 2.0 TDI sport , that are on the Central Electrics Module. Does anyone know how I can do this?? I don't have the rear left fog light warning which is not installed on the car, it being a Uk spec car. the rear right fog light is coming on when I switch the lights on, also it is not as bright as it should be.

Thanks in advance.

MUNK19

jaraz
07-04-2015, 09:16 AM
Your skyline were coded for double reverse / double fog .
With vcds in cecm 09 :
Fog light as parking light should be changed to 0.
Also check if not ticked for two fogs .

jaraz

MUNK19
07-04-2015, 09:24 AM
Thanks for the quick reply Jaraz

I will check that now, will post back shortly.

MUNK19
07-04-2015, 10:06 AM
hello mate
I must be doing something wrong, the process did not work. cecm 9, byte 10. i try to changed the 13x1 = 13 to 0 but it wont let me.
regards

munk19

jaraz
07-04-2015, 10:24 AM
If skyline was done properly , these bytes were changed for tails to work properly :
Byte 3 bit 1
Byte 4 bit 4
Byte 9 to remove centers from outer tails byte 10 coded to 15% .

Sometimes after change to resolution you have to move to different byte and then try close the long coding helper and click ok for coding to be accepted.
So enter 0 instead 13 and press enter. Move to another byte and close long coding .


jaraz

MUNK19
07-04-2015, 10:54 AM
thanks Jaraz
It worked mate the rear fog as gone back to being a fog light, something else as happen though the symbol for the front fog does not come up on the dash any more. any ideas??

that being said I would like to buy you a beer pal.

Regards!!!

MUNK19

jaraz
07-04-2015, 11:09 AM
No probs. Happy to help . What happened to your skyline tails ?
Im making them myself ;) done more than 100 sets ...


jaraz

MUNK19
07-04-2015, 11:28 AM
I did not have them on the car, what happen was i was having some trouble with my O/S rear indicator, and the fault was the Central Control Module was the fault, so I bought a used on off Ebay and got it installed but it had the fault with the fog light coming on when i switched the main beam on. I then started to do research on modifications and it lead me here to this.

MUNK19

nelson5
30-06-2016, 11:16 AM
Where only to buy the leds ? Which is the reference number ?

Eshrules
30-06-2016, 11:23 AM
Where only to buy the leds ? Which is the reference number ?

Maybe read the thread before giving it a 12 month bump?

How To Skyline Lights (http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php/116484-Skyline-Lights?p=624955#post624955)

nelson5
30-06-2016, 03:21 PM
Maybe read the thread before giving it a 12 month bump?

How To Skyline Lights (http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php/116484-Skyline-Lights?p=624955#post624955)


i had read before sending the message. I cann´t find even on ebay led´s with two colour (Red and orange) and this seemed to be the best place to ask.

thanks

RichardSEL
30-06-2016, 04:20 PM
I don't know suppliers for the two-colour LEDs either -- Jaraz fitted mine
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Vwleds/610661862389708?ref=hl
(https://www.facebook.com/pages/Vwleds/610661862389708?ref=hl)
Try these firms: Maplin Electronics, Radio Spares, Farnell. Mebe they have?

Eshrules
30-06-2016, 08:14 PM
I bought them from a guy on Ukpassats. The only person I'm the world who actually still makes them and would post a set to me!

Think I covered all the basic points of the how to but you could spend all day going over every little point!

The point being, I don't think you'll find them - they look to be a bespoke DIY lamp and given that the post I linked is now 5 years old I suspect the chances of finding a supplier are slim.

nelson5
30-06-2016, 11:04 PM
I don't know suppliers for the two-colour LEDs either -- Jaraz fitted mine
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Vwleds/610661862389708?ref=hl
(https://www.facebook.com/pages/Vwleds/610661862389708?ref=hl)
Try these firms: Maplin Electronics, Radio Spares, Farnell. Mebe they have?

Thanks. I'll give a try. :D

p4stysm4sher
09-01-2017, 12:40 PM
Been wanting to do this/find a set for sale !! such a mission & headache to go thru when you dont know what your doing!! Very good post G-Black :notworthy

Thanks
How do you make the outer cluster into a ring and not the standard spot?

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p4stysm4sher
12-01-2017, 02:41 PM
I have done work on my set and the inners are in and working well. I want to copy it across to the outer cluster and have the rings working the tail/brake and indicator lights. Leaving the spot in the middle unlit all the time.
I've read though various places, but I'm still quite unsure what to do about the code side of it all. Can you guys help me?

Many thanks

Scott

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