35w or 55w HID?

[stevo-dtm]

Advice please
Friend of mine wants to fit HIDS to his car asked me for advice between 35w or 55w 6000k but i have no idea which ones are best in your opinions?

[Mr-Rob]

35w are more than adequate.

I have 35w 6K and they are awsome.

I can drive down dark country lanes as though it's daylight !!

[Puresilk]

Depends if you have projector or reflector headlamps.

If you have projector than either will be fine.

If you have reflector then the 55w are too bright IMHO, as I fitted the 55w 6k ones and had to downgrade to 35w 6k as they were way too bright.

[Mr-Rob]

Depends if you have projector or reflector headlamps.

If you have projector than either will be fine.

If you have reflector then the 55w are too bright IMHO, as I fitted the 55w 6k ones and had to downgrade to 35w 6k as they were way too bright.

Poor advice mate,

Don't fit HIDS to a car with reflector housings !!!!

[Hardcorism]

Poor advice again. Don't get aftermarket hids because they are illegal to use on roads, projector lens or not. Just having a projector lens doesn't make them anymore legal mate.

[johnloaderuk]

Poor advice again. Don't get aftermarket hids because they are illegal to use on roads, projector lens or not. Just having a projector lens doesn't make them anymore legal mate.

Amazing how many people don't realise this. Just because they have projector lens they think they can get away with it, or the law doesn't apply to them for some strange reason.

[Mr-Rob]

We could bang on about the legalities of it all day guy's.

The bottom line is people are going to fit them, I gave advice on the
safety aspect and fitting to reflectors is down right dangerous.

I have HIDS fitted with projector lamps and they are alligned correctly
and don't harras other road users.

Yes you supposed to have self leveling and washers blah blag blah.

I had Xenon fitted on my Merc ML as standard, how often did I use the
washers...... Never.

Infact 4X4's fitted with Xenon lights should be illegal, there that much
taller than cars they they do cause issues, but no they are fitted as
standard without any thought.

Do you drive everywhere at the correct speed limit, I bet not.

We all break the law at some point !!!!

[Hardcorism]

They are illegal for a reason. They are not deemed safe just because you think they are.

A few of my mates have them on their cars with reflector lens, and they look fine. It doesn't really give them the position to go and tell people it's fine to put hids on their cars.

All I was getting at was that yes, putting hids on reflector lens is bad advice, so is putting them in the projector lens without the correct equipment, as it is against the law. The beckons will be illegal and illegal cars are not insured. As I'm sure most people know, all insurers will try their hardest to find a way out of paying a claim, and having an illegal car is a pretty damned good way of not paying out.

So all in all, I can't say that fitting aftermarket hids can be advised with out the correct equipment.

Just letting the op know and any other readers know of this incase they didn't already.


Regarding speeding, yes indeed I probably have. My argument is not with you having the hids, or with people speeding or breaking the law. The problem I have is people being told it is ok to have them with out the proper equipment, people being advised to break the law, just because it is a stupid law which you don't agree with.

Yes I probably have been speeding before and other things, but I don't come on here and advise people to do it, and it is safe to do because of xyz. That would be irresponsible of me, as it is in advise anyone to do an illegal modification to their car. The fact you have it done doesn't bother me.

[Mr-Rob]

Perhaps this site should have all the ads for HIDS removed then in that case.

Infact ban all threads on HIDS.

Anyway, I'm going to enjoy mine untill such time I fail an MOT which will probally
be from 1st January 2012 when they change, along with remapped cars.

I just read the road transport standing that johnloderuk posted on another
thread, and they are not Illegal as long as they are fitted to a correct type
housing.


Just a thought!

[stevo-dtm]

guys i know they are illegal in the uk but i live in ireland and they are not illegal here as long as they are fitted correctly and the beam is focused to comply with nct standards nct is irish equivalent of the uk MOT. He does have projector headlights in his car so they shouldnt be too blinding to traffic so anyway getting back to it 35 or 55w ?

[Mr-Rob]

Stevo,

35w mate.

[Puresilk]

Poor advice mate,

Don't fit HIDS to a car with reflector housings !!!!

I have 35w HIDS fitted to my car and use the H7R bulbs!

They are anti glare bulbs!

Not been flashed once, and recently passed my MOT! beam pattern has been aligned correctly also!

Everyones entitiled to their opinion anyhow!

:Blush:

[Mr-Rob]

I have 35w HIDS fitted to my car and use the H7R bulbs!

They are anti glare bulbs!

Not been flashed once, and recently passed my MOT! beam pattern has been aligned correctly also!

Everyones entitiled to their opinion anyhow!

:Blush:

Agreed;)

[bondwithme]

Hi

I have 35w and they are excellent but beware of the radio interference issue also they now do H7R lamps for reflector headlamps google and have a read
:beerchug:

[Sarge786]

Just for your info guys:


Changes to MoT from 1st January 2012
Taken from another forum:

Quote:
There are to be some changes to the MOT test from 1st January 2012 which are being introduced in response to European Commission Directive 2010/48/EU of the 5th July 2010 and which will effect those with aftermarket HID headlights and remapped ECUs:

4.1.4 Compliance with requirements:
(a) Lamp, emitted colour, position or intensity not in accordance with the requirements
(b) Products on lens or light source which obviously reduce light intensity or change emitted colour
(c) Light source and lamp not compatible

4.1.5. Levelling devices (where mandatory):
(a) Device not operating.
(b) Manual device cannot be operated from driver’s seat.

4.1.6 Headlamp cleaning device (where mandatory):
Device not operating.

For anyone with a remap, section 6.1.9 may be relevant.

6.1.9 Engine performance:
(a) Control unit illegal modified.
(b) Illegal engine modification.

(by 'illegal', it is assumed that they mean changed/programmed differently from OEM specifications)

There will also be a new check on the general condition of the wiring:

4.11. Electrical wiring
(a) Wiring insecure or not adequately secured.
(b) Wiring deteriorated.
(c) Damaged or deteriorated insulation

and on the function of airbag and seat belt pre-tensioner systems:

7.1.4. Safety belt Pre-tensioners:
Pre-tensioner obviously missing or not suitable with the vehicle.

7.1.5. Airbag:
(a) Airbags obviously missing or not suitable with the vehicle.
(b) Airbag obviously non-operative.

7.1.6. SRS Systems:
SRS MIL indicates any kind of failure of the system.

[hibbsy21]

The 55w HID's arent necessarily any brighter, its the case of the ECU reading a 35w hid as a blown bulb as it is not drawing the standard 55w power a normal halogen bulb does. So to avoid any warning lights get the 55w ones. And that is the difference. Hope that helps all who are in this post!

[Macdoon]

Hi All

I too have considered HIDS, spoke with 3 MOT centres to get their opinion based on current & future legislation.

All three stated that they would NOT fail a veh fitted with aftermarket HIDS so long as they where fitted correctly and presented the legal beam height and spread.

Although I am still not sure whether to go down this road or not:aargh4:

Mac

[johnloaderuk]

Although I am still not sure whether to go down this road or not:aargh4:

Mac

This may, or may not, help you decide. Scroll down to the first post dated 12th January 2011, so very recent thread http://bbs.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-general-1/867859-read-this-stopped-by-police-vosa.html

[STAGMAN]

This may, or may not, help you decide. Scroll down to the first post dated 12th January 2011, so very recent thread http://bbs.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-general-1/867859-read-this-stopped-by-police-vosa.html

Blue side lights, smoked indicators, probably very high k HID's, etc etc, no wonder he got a pull!!!

[Mr-Rob]

The 55w HID's arent necessarily any brighter, its the case of the ECU reading a 35w hid as a blown bulb as it is not drawing the standard 55w power a normal halogen bulb does. So to avoid any warning lights get the 55w ones. And that is the difference. Hope that helps all who are in this post!


55w hids are about 2 times brighter.

It's nothing to do with OBC errors, If you get a HID kit for your
car ensure it's something like a Canbus Pro.

You'll get no OBC errors at all.

[Puresilk]

If need be at least you can take the HIDS out easily!

[Crasher]

Coming home tonight I was dazzled almost blind by some twasuk with aftermarket HID lights, the sooner they are an MOT failure the better, or even better than that, prosecute those companies selling what is in the UK a product that is illegal to use.